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I have just tipped my 3yo Dd1's supper over her head.

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Orchardbeck · 29/04/2014 19:53

Not one of my finest moments, I have to say. I'm certainly not proud of the fact. She refused to eat it so I calmly tipped it over her head, gravy, the lot.

Dd1 has been refusing to eat meals for some time, I know it is a control issue as we are having other problems (tantrums, ignoring etc etc). I also have Dd2 who is 9 months and eating well (same meals just mashed or chopped well). She just sits there and either makes cheeky comments or shouts over me. I am at the end of my tether.

I make meals that I know Dd1 loves - she was previously an adventurous eater but now just picks and takes hours to finish a meal, and only with coaxing and threats of no pudding etc.

Tonight was sausage casserole, made with home raised pork and vegetables out of the garden, so not only do I feel bad about doing this, it was particularly painful to see it go to waste like that (DH's face was a picture, but he backed me up whether he agreed with it or not , bless him).

She has now been showered and sent to bed with nothing more to eat. She is very eloquent for her age (3 1/4 yo) and has been from age 1, she used to be so well behaved and a joy to have around.

Obviously I was worried about her reaction to dd2, but she loves her to pieces. She just takes other people off to one side to get their full attention - it can be overwhelming for them sometimes.

I know she is rebelling because I have to dedicate attention to her younger sister, plus my OH is a farmer and works all hours so it's just me looking after them. She goes to pre school 2 mornings per week.

What can I do? Is it a phase? Have I crossed a massive line?

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 07:16

Well for thr past 3 days it has been like this 70.

Am just wondering why.

70hours · 04/05/2014 07:24

I wasn't sneering - honestly I wasn't - I was just trying to,point out that none of us are perfect and we all make mistakes BUT it is what we do to resolve that - that is important - The Op has been severely critiqued I. Her and IMO made to feel like she was abusing her DD - some of us disagree that what she did was tantamount to severe abuse and can understand how someone can be driven to react in the way she did - Ai don't know aout the last 3 days but maybe people saw the abuse the OP got and maybe myself and have reacted to some of those posters - --

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 07:44
  1. I read the posts.

People said your husband WOULd be a c* iF he tipped your dinner over your head. Does he do,that?

Did you misread that or are you wilfully misinterpreting it?

And you came straight in on the thread with sarky comments and remarks about Steoford wives so I think a) you aren't a wronged little innocent and b) you can handle yourself.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

MizK · 04/05/2014 07:55

I sympathised with the OP whilst also saying I wouldn't do it myself.

But yes, I do feel similar to the OP in that I understand that three year olds can be frustrating particularly for people who have little help and also have a baby to look after.

I don't see why others attacking her have absolutely no empathy with her and can't accept that, in posting here for advice, she is acknowledging she was wrong and looking for support.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 07:58

Because they werent convinced she really thought she was fully wrong, I suppose.

MizK · 04/05/2014 08:10

assuming she did, how do you expect she felt having read post after post calling her an abuser? How is that fair or even constructive? She deserved honesty - to be told she was completely wrong to do this and that her DD should never be subjected to it again. But to say her behaviour was chilling and that she cares more about food than her daughter? Some of the comments have been extremely cruel.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 08:13

But her behaviour was chilling. And she did moan about the wasted food.

70hours · 04/05/2014 08:17

FANJO - I can handle myself but you keep saying g that the people who try to offer support to OP are bitchy ????? I personally don't get it -But hey ho that's life !

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 08:19

Thr ones who gang up and talk about Stepford wives/sainthood/sanctimonious parents have been, and unfairly so IMO.

70hours · 04/05/2014 08:22

But as you said 'I can handle myself' - which acknowledges that my responses may have been sharper due to the posts aimed at me - tit for tag perhaps - surely you can see that - and as supporters of the OP appear in the minority on this thread I can't see the ganging up comments - however if you feel any posts have been uneccessarily rude/bitchy you could always report them ?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 08:24

No. You came straight in with sneering posts.

I.e. you could obviously deal with any fallout and you sort of invited it.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 08:25

For ganging up posts..see mrsruff and pumpkin just up there.

70hours · 04/05/2014 08:35

Mmmm my FIRST post on this thread did not mention Stepford wives actually - FANJO - get your facts straight - you see what you want and I will not have you spreading ridiculous u truths about me !!!! my first post related to a similar incident happening to myself !! I then went on to say ai thought the idea of the girl being dropped off at SS ridiculous - no better/worse than the majority of your posts TBH - you are factually incorrect my friend !!!!! - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND fwiw my husband wad called a c@@@ several times - it was I,plied I was in an a busier relationship and that I supported abuserrs etc etc By SEVERAL posters who absolutely ganged up personally ON ME !! But hey hi why let the facts get I. The way of good Op bashing hey !!!

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 08:43

Yes. Thats just it.

I just live to bash the OP

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 08:47

Have said my piece. .am going out.

It's about a wee girl not a bunfight.

FunLovinBunster · 04/05/2014 11:19

70 may I suggest you re read your own posts.
Then may I suggest that you read the responses that you received on this thread. Hopefully you will understand why people have responded as they have done.
May I also remind you that you said that if you your own behaviour hadn't been ideal then you wouldn't blame your husband to tip your food over your head.
This is just one of the bon mots that you have so kindly shared with us.

JohnnyBarthes · 04/05/2014 11:22

Understandably this thread has provoked a strong reaction, and some uncompromising posts.

I've nothing to add other than to say that there is a difference between abusive behaviour towards children and the same towards a partner, which is absolutely not to say that being cruel to a child is any less dreadful. That difference is that as a parent, you are in charge. This can make it easier to sometimes over step the boundary between caring, responsible authority and draconian control, particularly when at the end of one's tether.

An adult should never be in charge of their partner in the way a parent is in charge of their child.

I'm not trying to make excuses, I'm just saying I can see how it happens. Getting the balance right is not always plain sailing.

70hours · 04/05/2014 11:28

FLB - I don't think what I said justified you calling my husband a c@@@ - maybe you need to keep your own temper in check - support the people who adk for support like the OP and if you want do some voluntary work for childlike or the like to really 'help'

70hours · 04/05/2014 11:30

And what makes me laugh is you probably think 'I deserve' tat kind of reaction which is surely irony considering you think nobody 'deserves' abuse of any kind - lol

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 12:02

Why do you say things like people say you deserve abuse. No one said that

70hours · 04/05/2014 12:20

I was told to read my own posts and then "understand' why people have responded in the way they did a seen funds post above -

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 12:25

Noone called your husband a c*. Unless he pours food on your head.

bumpieonamission · 04/05/2014 13:25

70 and fanjo. I can't believe you have turned what was a thread by op admitting a bad event and asking for support into a slanging match between yourselves.

I think you need to get a room and stop spamming this thread.

I hope OP is no longer reading as she must feel awful.

differentnameforthis · 04/05/2014 13:33

What math has said, all along.

The method chosen to communicate the importance of food doesn't make any sense. If it's important then why waste it? What is it important for?

I wondered that. OP is allowed to waste food, by tipping it all over her daughter, but her daughter is not allowed to waste food. Double standards.

Only one person answered the 'what if your dh did it to you' question, & her answer was 'I think that I would have deserved it' (paraphrasing).

Would it be ok to do this to an elderly relative who wasn't eating?
A disabled person?

People think that just because this was a 3yr old, who was 'rebelling/controlling/having a tantrum/or even just being 3 (insert normal 3yr old behaviour here)' that this was an acceptable punishment to scare her into not doing it again or as op said "I guess I was looking for a shock reaction to get her to understand how important it is to eat" (that in itself is chilling, do we really want our children controlled by fear?)

When you are at the end of your tether (been there, before I get accused of being 'perfect, smug' etc) IF you snap, you snap in a temper, not 'calmly'

Me, being perfect, of course (so not) I walk away. I might shout. I might say something about it being a waste. I might even tell them that they are lucky to have a hot meal each day.

Yes, my child has dumped food on themselves before now, no, I have never thought it would be a useful parenting tactic. NO, I have never done it.

I have actually walked away, sat my self out side at the front of the house once, because they were being typical kids. I didn't want to listen to it, and they didn't want to listen to me. So I took time out.

Went back in, after 5 minutes, with a clear head, ready to sort it out.

The posters saying that it was cold, tepid, the child was playing up, children dump food on themselves anyway, that it was funny, that there was no harm done etc etc, you are all excusing the op & making what she did seem like it was nothing. You are all validating her actions, which leads to victim blaming.

I really would like to know what you all would do/think if your dh tipped a meal on YOUR heads.

The OP's 3 yo is doing this night after night, being cheeky & shouting over her (not unusual 3yo behaviour, but fecking frustrating night after night!!) you simply ordered something you decided you didn't like... not the same level of provocation at all So now the THREE year old provoke her to do this? (More victim blaming)

As to your point that the child is doing this night after night, I think by now, the op should have been able to find a way to deal with without losing control of the situation. Being fussy about food CAN be normal 3yr old behaviour, actually.

Being able to count to ten and walk away and make a sandwich means you're not at the end of your tether, in my book. That's bollocks in my book. It takes a lot of self awareness, but knowing when you are about to hit that table/smack a child etc & being able to say to yourself 'walk away' IS possible. And it is possible because I will not revisit MY childhood on my kids. Also, ruff, shouting isn't end of tether stuff, neither is banging a fist on the table, really, imo.

I bet all the sanctimonious parents... Seriously, we are sanctimonious because we refuse to see how throwing food over a child is a valid parenting technique? OK!

And fanjo is right, we have been called smug, sanctimonious, perfect parents etc. Yet we have not felt the need to resort to name calling to those who have supported op. yes, we have said they are victim blaming, but that is hardly the same as those posters calling us names.

I don't see why others attacking her have absolutely no empathy with her and can't accept that To me, she wasn't asking for advice. Her op is full of her feelings about the food & the waste, about controlling her child, to me, she was looking for validation!

assuming she did, how do you expect she felt having read post after post calling her an abuser? ... She deserved honesty Well she did get honesty, didn't she? What, are we, who find it unacceptable, supposed to just shut up & hide ourselves away?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2014 13:42

Bumpie you have totally missed my point.

Which is it's about a wee girl and not a bunfight so I am sick of all the bitchy posts.

They are not coming from me.

Maybe if you actually read my posts you will see they are not spamming the thread.