Grow old with me! The best is yet to be. Come and join the 40+ mums plus babies, toddlers etc in the snug where tea, cake and sympathy are being served.

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We are 40+ mummies sharing all the highs and lows of our autumn crocus babies. Also sharing tips and information (most crying is tiredness!) and jokes. Please join us!

None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm
You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely
It's sad to grow old, but nice to ripen.

PS this thread title was created by eagleray, and she also found the quotes.

Oh Knicky, I am so sorry you had other revelations, I don't know what to say but would happily give you a massive pinata and let you bash it again and again. Let your feelings out so that you feel good with DCs.
Goat, holding your hand too re sleep, DS has been like this too for the first 3 years, I did not know then but he had some pressures in his head probably due to forceps at birth, lots of falling, head banging during tantrums, osteopathy helped release the pressures or part of them, I don't know if the green content is linked to general unwellness but I would defo see a paediatrician. In the meantime, coffee !
Hope Scarecrow, T and DD, Eagle and baby Eaglet, Rosie are feeling better
Somewhere, wishing you a brighter day too today

Today, I have to sort out venue and activities for DS birthday. Wish me luck ! But thanks goodness A slept from 8 to 6 last night, feel more human today. Even had time to bake madeleines for DS snacks !

goat sorry if you ate being overwhelmed by ideas. Re gastric things if he is oppo of constipated and lactose intolerance a possible issue, could he have trapped wind type pains. As a 2x CS mum I can say it is Agony. Really. it might be worth talking to a pharmacist about whether you can give him peppermint water (diluted) and or weak fennel tea, or cook fennel into biscuits or something. I wad advised by nurses in hospital these were best remedies and they were right. When you move about wind is pushed around and released, iyswim, but when he is asleep.and still it becomes "trapped" which would tie into it being a sleep issue. Just thought I'd mention as non medical.remedies might be safe to try before paedo and shouldn't harm (assuming chemist or somebody plays them).
sorry eb else for tmi
for Goat.

Rosie, I can't get my head around the fact you will be grandma in a few days !!! :) as Eagle quote, being old is in our head and none of us on this thread sounds old, lets stay immature for a long long time

Stupid question: do you know if a pinata ordered online comes with a club ? How dangerous is the club then ?

But Rosie is already a grandmother! (One GDD I think?)

Up since 5 - could have been worse. Sorry no idea about the club BBD there was a piñata at a party I went to last year but was too drunk to remember what we used to hit it

Eagle !

Hi all. Back in the land of normality after a lovely week of family visiting from ooop north. Will catch up on everyone's news and post back later x

I'm back after a lovely, if emotional, week of family visitation (Dad, Sis and niece). Took me a while to find the new fred!

Welcome soupmaker I'm 40yo and have DD (BabyPud) 10wo she's my first (and only)

scarecrow and Eagle sorry to hear you and your little ones have been poorly. Hope you're on the mend and caught up on sleep.

Yay to warm feet for babyeagle! I think I missed your posts about reading for MrEagle? Hope he 'gets it' soon anyway x

*BBD I hope babyBBDs nappy rash is improved. It's heartbreaking seeing them sore isn't it?! I use Burt's Bees Diaper ointment and it's magic.
Thanks for updating the graduates list. BabyPud is DD1 28 July x

rosie how's the abscess doing? Sounds horrid and painful
What was the post about goals? I completely missed that

goat hope baby goat is better today. I had a nightmare screaming child for 4 days before my family came last week. She was going to bed after 3am each day cos she wouldn't go down any earlier. I think she was getting overstimulated and not sleeping so was in a mess come bedtime, plus lots of lower wind pain. Not sure if that might be contributing? We've helped the windy pain with lots of leg movement and baby yoga. She's been farting like a trooper since
I didn't understand your post about REF and no reductions, but it sounded like it was shit you didn't need - hope you're ok.

knicky glad relate is helping - vent away on here, that's what we're all here for, isn't it
Oh, just saw your later post about new revelations. More
As for the sleeping through thing - someone the other day was complaining and asking for matchsticks cos her 8wo 'only' sleeps 10:30-6:15 so she might add rusk to her formula. 8wo!!!

A Christmas catch up sounds great! I can't make it for the 9th, BabyPud is just a bit too young/demanding for me to brave such a big trip... Reading would be great for a catch up, cheaper than London for trains.

Right - DD asleep now so can type properly (4 bounces in the hammock and her eyes were shut! Cannot recommend hammock enough if anyone having problems with daytime naps...)

BBD I had a look at pinatas online and one company I looked at who supply lots of different ones have a separate club/stick to buy so I guess in this case it is separate. They also sell a blindfold separately (key item) plus I think the prizes are separate too! So probably best to double check you've got all the bits you need when you order.

So sorry Knicky about the new revelation - did he confess or did you find out some other way? I really feel for you

Goat am glad you've got that paediatrician appt coming up. A friend of mine who has DD the same age as mine is having terrible, terrible problems at night with waking/screaming/discomfort etc. They're at breaking point now as the sleep deprivation has gone on for so long and are at the docs this morning. They've pondered over lactose intolerance, fructose intolerance, teething, colic, reflux and so on but not had any help from GP or HV so far.

DD woke up at 5am today and refused to settle and cried whenever I put her back in her cot (have no idea how DP does it) so fed her in my bed until she went back to sleep. Feeling a bit down about the naming day today as feel utterly drained from organising it and a fair bit of resentment aimed at DP for dragging his heels over the whole thing. I even found myself texting him earlier to warn him to get his hair cut before the day as he normally does it himself and it ends up wonky. Can't believe he gets away with so little responsibility. Am also worried that tons of people will cancel on the day (this happened the last time I organised something and I was left horribly out of pocket) Anyway, will try and stop moaning now and remind myself that it's a special day for DD, I've done my best and if I get 80% of it right, then that's good enough (I try to live by the 80/20 rule).

Sounds like you've had a great week Pudding - was it the first time they've seen Baby Pud?

Ah you are all lovely!
Rosie that really makes sense about hurting when stopping. And scarecrow yy to wind - I can massage some out but I am pretty sure still some there. I am a cs too so sympathise on the agony! Interestingly wind can be a symptom if an intolerance.
BG still under paed for premness so will make the most if it!

knicky So sorry re further revelations. Please vent away. This stuff is mysterious and there are no trite easy answers. I know you will come out the other end stronger and happier. You already seem more yourself iykwim - you were so quiet for a while.

Xxx

Sorry, massive x-post with lots of people!

Well DH took BG to the dr. Said he has had a virus, which is on the way out. Will recheck chest next week. Plus said take him to be weighed next week to verify weight loss. Hmm. How does one do that when the last official weighing was June 18? Also said obviously in tummy discomfort (cramps) but can't do anything about that. Oh - like find out why he has them?...
Thank heaven that his paed is pretty bloody good.
Knicky I might have to do that, take a day off, though a bit tricky at the moment. A colleague and I are starting to think we should found a Mothers in Higher Education protest movement!

Eagle, I'm sorry to hear about your friend having such problems. I've found HV pretty useless too I have to say. They tried to explain sleep training to me. Um, how do you sleep train a baby who is asleep? HV just couldn't understand me.

Knicky, so so sorry to hear of the new revelations. and hand holding. So difficult for you.

Pudding, lovely to see you back!

oh dear, DH says he is screaming most of the day as well.
I don't know if we will make the meetup. I can't take him on public transprt if he is feeling unwell/yelling. Oh bloody hell... hope we can come! We missed the last one. SBR as you might be one of the first to appear, can we pm mobile numbers so I can let you know even if it is a last minute decision?

Oh... that's BG screaming, not DH

Though come to think of it, DH might not be far off by now...

Hi goat will do. Really hope you and a well and happy bg can make it.

knotty are you still on track?

scarecrwo what is your eta?

Xx

Yup, I'm still coming! Should be there about 10.45-11am? Shall I PM you my number Somewhere?

Yes please can some one pm Midget with tel number as she has mine and Goat. Hope you can make it Goat. I will arrive quite late, don't want Midget not to find you if she arrives early.

Ok totally shallow post. ...
I'm officially depressed! ! I've been in town all afternoon trying to find just one or two new tops. EVERYTHING looks awful. I look awful! Rosebud was screaming when i put her in her chair and i just left the house. .. no make up and hair in scrunchy. I have a large circular mark very visible on my left boob. I was impressed this morning that i could do up the button on a pair of pre preg jeans. .. However the muffin top is really not attractive and I wish a friend had said NO DON'T WEAR THEM you're delusional if you think they look ok'. I have looked at my body from too many angles in to many mirrors it's not pretty. I want my pre pregnancy, size 10, I'm happy in a wet suit/bikini body back.

Dh will pick me up in an hour and I've bought nothing. The only thing keeping me from weeping is that I'm going home next week for the court case and can go shopping with my very stylish best friend. She'll sort me out.

Big hugs to baby goat bless.

Enjoy your meet up tomorrow ladies. .... maybe we should arrange a south west ladies meet up? ?

Hugs to you Rosie, I bet you look fab. It's so bloody hard isn't it? I'd lost 2.5 stone and was a size 10, target achieved a few months before I found out I was pregnant. I know I still look "ok", but I'm still just under a stone over what I was and I hate my flabby tummy! Although I look at the reason why I have it, and I couldn't care less for a few moments. DP tells me I look good after 2 children but I just think "are you blind, man!!" And Rosebud is still so small, you were pregnant such a short time ago. Hope your friend helps you to feel better next week xx
Also, so sorry to Knicky that more stuff has come to the surface. I can't imagine how hard it is, I think you're very brave.

Rosie I'm doing 5:2. Also bumbling through 30 day shred - it's a 20 minute workout.

Bet you look great tho.

Xx

I have decided that non sleep means that I have a stay of execution on diet! Something has to keep me awake!!

But I really think Rosie that your DH means it sincerely... And that you are being far too hard on yourself! What is your style?

Eagle sorry to hear you're down about the naming day. What do you want from it? Can anyone else help out so it feels less mammoth? When will it be? I'm sure it'll be a great day 80% or 100%... Be gentle with yourself xx

It was the first time Dad and Sis had met BabyPud. Dads very old and depressed since Mum died. I think meeting her has given him something to stick around for iykwim.

Goat I'm constantly astounded by how poor the NHS can be. I hope you get some answers soon but trust your instinct and keep pushing!! And yy. No sleep definitely means eat what you want. My sanity depends on chocolate and cookies on sleep deprived days!! I went through a week of 3-4 hours sleep a night tops 2 weeks ago and lived on chocolate mini rolls!!

Rosie I'm sure you look great and remember, 9 months on 9 months off!! We're all so hard on ourselves...
Your idea of a SW meet up is great! Let's do it!! Who's in and where??

I need to start exercising again. Running is my thing so hoping DH can take BabyPud for an hour 3 times a week so I can get out. Not too much to ask is it...? What is this shred that everyone talks about on MN?

Rosie please don't be so hard on yourself. You've done the most amazing thing, you've brought a gorgeous girl into the world. She's still tiny, it just takes time for our bodies to get back to where we would like them to be. You will get there though. In the meantime, I bet you still look fabulous. If you get the chance maybe have a pedicure or facial instead. Somethimy for you which isn't clothes. I think it's fab you can even get your pre-pregnancy jeans on at this stage
I seem to recall I couldn't even get them past just over my knees when DS was tiny!

Thank you one and all for your support re hubby. Back to relate on Thursday this week. I'm feeling more positive tonight - it's been such a rollercoaster of emotions. But thank you, your support is wonderful

Have a wonderful meet up tomorrow. Can't wait to hear all about it.

goat I really hope you have a better night and that things are ok for you to go tomorrow xx

First the bad news (for me). With a heavy heart I'm going to bow out of our meeting tomorrow. T's cough got even worse today (ironically just after I'd seen the doctor, but at least I was not panicking) and he was really distressed at bed time. His eye has also flared up again. It would be grossly unfair to mums and babies/toddlers to bring our germs along. And I also feel it would help him to stay at home/around the neighbourhood and get more rest than he will if up in London all day. Am very glum as was so looking forward to it: to meeting new people and seeing sbr and bbd again too. Hope you have a lovely time

pudding great to hear from you again - Another runner too! Hurray! Though I was pretty slack between DD and DS so am only just getting back into it. Was getting out three times a week all summer but back to twice while dh copes with new term (he works at uni) and I with all the illnesses etc we've had recently.

Rosie I am not happy with the long stagnation in any reduction of my body. I did drop a jean size over the summer though and now the ones I used to wear are actually pretty well too big, so I think it is very very very very gradually happening. I am happy until I try on clothes: so I don't! My dad keeps trying to buy me something (partly kindness, partly I feel under pressure to look better) and I can't explain to him that I'd RATHER not. Hope DH reassures you. And please take heart: if you were losing weight too quickly DD would perhaps not be thriving so well. I do remember the last half to stone dropped off pretty quickly after I stopped BF last time, too.

BBD did you get the Pinata? Sounds fun (I have recipes for them, but figured you had enough on your plate!) Did you find a venue? Hope A's rash has cleared up too.

I saw the lovely Knicky today (the highlight of my week now tomorrow is cancelled!) and we shared meze and walked along the river with our excedingly handsome boys :) I'm sure her DH has many good points as well as being a prat, but everytime I see her I think HOW could he be such a fool not to realise what an amazing wife and friend he has. Though I think perhaps he has realised that now.

Waves to all

And indeed, xpost with Knicky

And please, please, please BG have a good night. For your sake and mummy and daddy's.