Grow old with me! The best is yet to be. Come and join the 40+ mums plus babies, toddlers etc in the snug where tea, cake and sympathy are being served.

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We are 40+ mummies sharing all the highs and lows of our autumn crocus babies. Also sharing tips and information (most crying is tiredness!) and jokes. Please join us!

None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm
You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely
It's sad to grow old, but nice to ripen.

PS this thread title was created by eagleray, and she also found the quotes.

Oh eagle i hope your taking things easy. Hope vit d helps. I can come and sit with eaglet for you when you have interview if you like. One in pram one in sling and a good walk. ... how hard can it be (is she allowed chocolate buttons yet? ? Lol) serious offer though.
Yes that thread was never going to end well. .. I've not read it all (it's grown since last night) usual nonsense and half baked truths twisted to meet the needs of the poster. Real shame.

Just watched monty hall world's most dangerous dive programme on c5. What a load of shite!! ! I'm enraged! ! I lived and worked in dahab for YEARS and neither dh or i have ever heard of the silly curse. I've dived that site over 300 times and dh many more. (Not to huge depths usually)
It's a lovely day out. .. done properly with well briefed competent divers. most of those who have died at the Blue hole have been on hero dives. Grrrr

Eagle, so sorry DP is not v helpful, FFS can't people stay away from dr google ? Hope the vit D will get things on track for you. V glad baby E is better, I have given up giving medication with a spoon, syringe is best.
Agree with Scarecrow, the first winter at nursery for children is the worst, they catch everything one after another, I couldn't leave DS though with anyone else than DH but DS wanted me only, his Dad wasn't good enough !!! It is like the magic kiss, only Mum can give it, no one else.
Rosie, you are such a kind person on top of being wise.

eagle sorry this is so tardy: lost two posts and despaired both times. As you would so wisely say Bog Off Dr Google. There, that told him. More importantly I really really hope you are not worried about this, or if you are fo back to GP. You do not need any new angst when you are struggling to get well and cope. A much more likely option is breast feeding can deplete you vit D. If you type "breast feeding vitamin" into.Google (irony noted) the first vitamin they suggest - presumably most searched - is D.
I hope hope hope you are feeling a little better today.
Also have you told your mum you need support. can't give it? I will personally come to Bath and put you to bed if you do not look after yourself!! :

Take care x

Ok just re watched monti hall (all the way to the end without repeated re settling missions) and slightly less outraged. I love the blue hole and it's an amazing dive site. :)

becauase it has been far too long.since we had one of these....

scene: pool showers, dd is trying to escape hair washing...
me: So I will wash your hair, then we can put conditioner in and then.it will be all soft...
DD: (hands on hips) I don't think so mummy.

another scene: home, I've just stomped.out of living room and upstairs because dh is annoying me for a Change:
dh: where did mummy go?
DD: leave poor mummy alone

Kids feel everything, don't they ? So smart.

Rosiedays Glad you've sorted out your xmas dilemma. I know how tricky it can be. I was once married to a Jewish man and he wouldn't go near xmas. Wouldn't even let me have a tree....which is the best part. Decorations and presents sound great.

EagleRay Sorry to hear everything that you're going through. I hope the Vit D works for you. Sounds like you're having an extremely rough time.

My GP is sending me for an early scan tomorrow. I couldn't tell if he was concerned about the shooting pains or if he's trying to put my mind at ease. I'm dreading it, I'm totally convinced that they're not going to see anything. Telling myself that knowing sooner is better because then I can move on. The ex doesn't want to come with me, S**t head!! He said he will come if I don't have anyone else to go with me. When I told him I didn't know how long I'd be there he said "I can't stay with you indefinitely". Nice attitude!

Bhb. Told to wear shoes when he walks. Bare foot is best. So that's what we are doing. He is cruising around the walls now. Lovely if sticky fingers. My house will be ruined by the time he is 2. I have a cream sofa pre bought before baby. Sorry to hear about your loss. Huge hugs xx

Avalon, we will all be there in spirit? What time? (Hug)

I'm so crap at keeping up with this thread . Just wanted to say I really really hope all is OK for your scan Avalon, as Scarecrow says, we'll all be there in spirit. Eagle, hope you feel better soon.
My NY resolution will be to keep up and post more often wishful thinking.

Hiya

eagle your Dh! He's obv v v concerned about you which is as it should be. But tell him dr google always takes you to a highly-unlikely-worst-case-scenario place. Always.

avalon with you in spirit. Am enjoying having a pg person on here. Not so easy for you I know.

Btw avalon you are welcome to join us on the 11th Xmas meet up.

Talking of which we have no plan other than a long lunch in kew.

Meet at 11 to catch am people? Even earlier? What's the consensus? i will get the name of the pub and pm you all/ put it on FB and book.

There is loads of parking on kew road btw.

If any one wants to take over organising it feel free but I thought I should get it moving as the conscientious scare has had to drop out, as I suggested the pub and as we have a nice line up of lovely people ('cept scare).

Good morning Ladies. V quiet here as there are lots going through my mind and DH is away so singleparenting this week.
Avalon, FX you get to see a bit of the embryo, if not, please don't be upset, it is still early days and the next scan will be a revelation. Holding your hands here too.
LRM, barefoot is great, you can also use antislippery socks or suede slippers or moccassins, I will try to find a link for you. Re house and marks, well, we have decided to get it repainted once A is about 3/4 yo. Although DS at 5yo started sticking superheroes and cars stickers everywhere !
Somewhere, is the pub near the train station ? I am quite bad at finding places... I can get to kew around 10 and will have to leave around 1. It would be nice to have somewhere walking toddlers can get exhausted (sure Goat agrees with me on this bit !) and mobile/crawling babies can have some work out as well. I don't know kew at all. Thank you for taking charge.
I am off to Paris for Friday's funerals, thank you for your kind words, there is an empty space on earth but i know he is better off where he is now. DS told me not to cry because our friend was older than me, " and afterall he was born before you, so you don't need to be sad, it is normal, everyone dies one day, you, me , dad and A. And all the souls go to heaven where angels live". Looks like school has done a great job talking about Jesus and his death !

Scarecrow it's 11.30am, trying to drink a pint of water at the moment. I'm so scared. I don't know what to expect, I'm hoping to see a good heartbeat but I'm afraid they'll tell me the worst. Thought about taking another test but resisted. What if they tell me I'm not even pregnant? Surely 13 tests can't be wrong. The total lack of symptom still has me really worried. Thanks for the hug.

knottyhair Thank you.

somewhere Thanks, hope they find a healthy baby and I can carry on having pregnancy stresses on here for another 7 months. Thanks for the invite but I think you're all a fair way from me. I'm in North Wales.

Blue I hope I get to see something but I'm a little worried I won't. I've been told I have a tilted uterus, not sure that's good for an early scan. Had a scan for problems many years ago and they had to do it vaginally.

I'll be thinking of you all when I'm waiting for the scan. Reminding myself you've all been there and had a good outcome. The ex is coming but I don't think he'll be much help. He's barely speaking to me. Didn't even offer to meet me before the appt, he's just gonna turn up at the ward. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets stuck in traffic.

avalon as promised thinking about you so so so much. Willing that little heart to thump away. Sending spirited hugs, in every sense. Take care lovely xx

Avalon thinking of you too. I know the scan is prob over by now so I'm a bit late but thinking of you x

Avalon so so hoping you've had a wonderful experience. Xx were all here for you. X

Avalon, internal scan is even better, much more accurate, breathe in and breathe out, it is going to be ok.

I wish I was coming back with good news. Unfortunately they couldn't find a heartbeat. The baby was measuring too small for them to say it's definitely a miscarriage at this point so I have to go back again in 2 weeks. Feel like throwing myself under a bus.

Avalon, my love, I'm so sorry. Do you have anyone who can be with you for the rest of the day? Nothing I say will make you feel better but take care of yourself, try and rest. I'm so so sorry xxxx

avalon so sorry. What knotty said - you need looking after at a time like this. You have been so lovely. There is no consolation but I hope you get pg again and it goes well. Xxx

Oh Avalon, I am so sorry, you take care of yourself.

Avalon, I'm so sorry it didn't go so well today. ; ( huge hugs. Are you sure of your dates? Please look after yourself for the next 2 week's. Have they offered blood tests to check hormone levels?
Darling whatever happens you will have an angel here or in heaven. Xx

Avalon I'm so sorry it was such a tough scan. I can't imagine how hard the next two weeks will be but this does not mean you are not pregnant. it just means it was too soon to tell if you are or not. I like the others am.concerned for you - have you got a relative or friend you can confide in? if you continue to feel you cannot cope you absolutely must go back to your lovely GP and talk to him. Also conside writing down every fear: many will be contradictory and that is normal, just write and write and write: nothing should be too (in your vie or small or difficult. When you have written it all down you can start to address each individual.item in its own, which will be a lot less overwhelming.
please.keep talking to us if it helps xx