Grow old with me! The best is yet to be. Come and join the 40+ mums plus babies, toddlers etc in the snug where tea, cake and sympathy are being served.

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We are 40+ mummies sharing all the highs and lows of our autumn crocus babies. Also sharing tips and information (most crying is tiredness!) and jokes. Please join us!

None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm
You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely
It's sad to grow old, but nice to ripen.

PS this thread title was created by eagleray, and she also found the quotes.

I've asked for a copy of the policy. The breastfeeding network are great and have a pharmacist who will support me. It's the bloody attitude that gets me! Nhs guidelines and all that. Who the f**k do they think they are to tell me how and where i can feed my baby. I know the law

They said nothing like that at the Eastman dental hosp in London where I had my tooth out. It didn't come to sedation but I got the impression they'd have done it if need.

Just rung GP surgery and blood test results are back!

V frustrating as there are abnormalities (as expected) but could only jot down numbers quickly (and only spoke to receptionist). Also apparently there are no plans for the doc to ring me as there's nothing overly serious there, so will have to wait for appt on monday.

Abnormalities are around liver function and vit D. Iron levels seem to be normal - am surprised!

The lead clinical nurse has just called. She was lovely :) very apologetic that one of her team were so misinformed. And assured me she was addressing it with the whole team. (I think someone has just had a bad day at work! !!) She has said she will see me on the day and make sure I have somewhere to feed dd. She really could not have apologised more. :) ggrrr it's still really upset me though

Rosie, glad the senior staff called you back and you gove be able to have the op done and BF. sometimes staff can be very useless.
Nothing to report on my side, lost 1.30h this morning waiting for emergency appointment for A then she became very unsettled so took her back home for lunch and nap. Have now appointment at 5.10, checking whether she has sore throat as she has not been eating a lot the last days.
The star is not finished yet, tonight will be final dyi bits.

Glad that's sorted for you Rosie, I was ready to come and picket on your behalf!
Eagle, must be annoying to have results so vague. Hope you get some answers on Monday. In the meantime, hope your DH gives you some lovely downtime this weekend!
Bbd, poor A, hope she feels better soon.

Ooo too many poorly babies and poorly mummy's. Bbd is A ok?
Eagle sorry x post earlier. Glad you got results back. Boo at having to wait till Monday. Hopefully it's something simple to fix. Xx
Thanks for the solidarity goat :) I've become a bit of a bf warrior since dd. Never really thought about it before. This country is So ridiculous about it. It drives me mad.

Not being able to scroll back on phone is so annoying as can't remember who's said what and what i wanted to say. My brain is struggling with information retention so huge apologise to all.

Scearcrow how's your mood doing? I'm struggling with tears and dark thoughts atm. Just can't stop them. Dh was at the bank today sorting something and mentioned life insurance, the tears just sprang to my eyes and i said 'how would I get you home' (he said DHL would be fine) Also panic attacks, not huge ones just the pit of stomach ache and palpations but I know their there.

Eagle, sorry I did not see your post either earlier. Fx you get some rest over the week end and Monday will bring good news.
Rosie, (((())))

Had bad news today, a dear friend of my family is slowly going away and
I won't get to see him to say goodbye, I feel really bad, he was there looking after my whole family when we arrived as refugees and I won't be able to visit him. How ungrateful is that ?

Saw GP for A, she does not think it is more than a cold, no sore throat, ears are clear, nose gooey for sure but should get better soon, if not Monday I will go back.

Hugs to all, will be back once I m done with the star. Have not done anything today, busy playing with A ! There are priorities in life :)

Ok, so the doppler plan has gone out of the window. I've already worried myself today. It's like I have some sick desire to torture myself. I've had a shooting pain in my right abdomen on and off all day. Really thought I was going to start bleeding at one point because the pain shot straight across my abdomen. Hopefully it's some kind of growing pain. Thought I'd take a pg test when I got home to show myself hcg levels are still high. But the test line was lighter than the control! Apparently that can happen, according to the wisdom of Googe. If I make it to the GP appt next week I might just ask her to have me committed before I drive myself insane.

Really wanted to tell my ex as well today. Got so upset about the shooting pain that I wanted him to suffer with me. Doesn't seem fair that he's happily plodding along while I've aged years in the last few weeks. I know that makes me a horrible human being...but I haven't told him.

GoatBongoAnonymous Congratulations!!!

Rosiedays You go girl! Kick that dentistry butt!!

blueblackdye Glad A doesn't have anything more serious than a cold. Of course a cold still really sucks.

Sorry to hear about your family friend. I'm sure he knows that you'd visit him if you could.

Eagleray Good that you've got some test results back. Hopefully you'll be feeling better soon.

Hi avalon.
Shooting pains are common. I had loads also pg test pm never a good idea as hormone in urine is week. Old mn proverb. .a line is a line.
I'd advise you take your time with ex. Tell him when you're feeling very positive and in control (could be a short window of opportunity! !!) No rush. Xx

Avalon I drove myself nuts for the whole first trimester! I do recommend an early scan, I had one at 9 weeks and it was great to see the little broad bean with its heart eating away. Also shooting pains, I remember saying indignantly "no one told me early pregnancy could bloody hurt so much!" Shooting pains, muscle stretching, af feeling, and of course the lovely heartburn to come... it's all normal and so is googling, but try and step away from the computer!! Put on a good weepy instead and have a howl. Worked for me

The star has been handed over to school. I authorize myself a few hours of non rushing around, my back is broken, I will tidy up a bit and then sit down with a book. No grocery shopping, no window shopping, no friend meeting, nothing apart from my book. Erh, parenting book, btw !

A has her xmas show on 11th Dec at nursery at 3pm. I need to pick up DS at 3.15. And I m meeting you all ... Hum, need to think how to do all 3. At what time shall we meet ? I will ask DS' school if I can pick him up around 2pm so that I can take him to his sister's "play" for 3pm, he is in reception, it shouldn't be a big deal. That means I will have to leave Our meet up around 1pm. Any thoughts ?

bbd sterling effort with star. It's a beauty!

Sent too soon.

Cute-tastic on ds!
Relieved no one has asked me to make one for ds!

Glad A been given all clear.

Refugees from where?? Story please!

rosie don't know if it helps but my dp is a terrible life insurance dodger. His dad died young and I just can't get him to do it. Getting it done could be a relief? Then you can forget about it.

avalon unfortunately shooting pain cramps do mess with ones head in early pg. hugs to you. Yy to weak urine in afternoon. You seem to be bearing up as well as poss - feeling like you are going nuts is 'normal'. Knowing that doesn't help but we are all here to listen. What is your ex's attitude?

Mind gone totally blank now. I had more to say but it's gone. A yawning void,

Somewhere, my family is from Saigon, almost 35 years ago (anniversary will be 16/12), we arrived in France where we have been given asylum after the end of the war. My parents were in their late 40s with 10 kids from 20 yo to 4yo. And no where to go. This friend of the family is a brother of the St Jean Baptiste de la Salle consegration. He was a friend of another brother who has played chess 4 times with my Dad when he picked up my brothers from their catholic school. He did not actually know us that much. But anyway, we were recommended to him by his friend. And he took charge of us. This consegration has a school near Paris and the brothers made room for us, for almost a year. This friend picked me and my younger sister up after school while my parents were dealing with administration and job hunting. We owe him a lot. We would not be where we are without his help and the generosity of the brothers
Anyway, I am off to see the priest of my local church now. That is the minimum I can do.

Thanks for that bbd very interesting. You could write a very interesting memoir. I'm sorry about your family friend. Did you ever think you might have 10 kids?

some let has first tooth!!! I'm feeling very drowsy I don't know why maybe my eating habits of late and sort of ignoring her, feel guilty.

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Rosiedays, GoatBongoAnonymous, Somewherebecomingrain, thanks for your reassurance. Why doesn't anyone mention the pains? The pains are scary. Wish I'd paid more attention when my friends wanted to tell me every detail of their pregnancies. Serves me right.

I went to see the doctor today. I was a mess this morning, really tearful. I called to see if there were any cancellations but when I told the receptionist why I was worried she said I needed to come in as an emergency. The doc was lovely, he even gave me a hug as I bawled like a baby. He gave me a good prod, twice, just to reassure me. So far no sign of an ectopic pg...yay! He said he would've sent me for a scan given how anxious I am but without bleeding they won't give me one. I think he was more concerned about my nutjob status than the pregnancy. I've got to go back on Monday so he can see how I am.

I mentioned the pregnancy test to the doc and he said I've clearly done far too many tests and I need to stop. I know he's right but I'm constantly looking for signs everything is ok. I took another this morning and it looked just like last nights. Hoping it's cos they're cheapies that the line isn't as dark as the control. I've also read that they can start to lighten when hormones get too high. Not sure how that theory works but fingers crossed it's true.

Had news from the ex, he's having the snip in 2 weeks. Was tempted to tell him he's closing the stable door after the horse has bolted but couldn't do it. He wants to come round for a massage next week. Maybe I'll tell him then....

GoatBA Think I might book a scan once I'm past 8 weeks. My first midwife appt isn't until 19th Dec. Doubt I'll get a scan until middle/end of Jan. Seems that being "high risk" doesn't mean a lot at this stage. If I see a hb at 8+ weeks I know I can relax a little. Might help me put it out of my mind and enjoy xmas.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I'm sitting on a bus on my way to a NITE OUT! No kids just some girlfriends, some good food and lotsa 'vino'.

avalon Blimey your ex has no idea does he. Or maybe he is picking it up on the airwaves subconsciously and that's why he's suddenly booked the snip?

Glad Gp was supportive. There are lots of kinds of help out there.

Just reading your posts I remember how time crawls by so slowly. Hope you can relax with some low key pleasures - DVDs, good food (that suits your cravings) books etc.

X

me too!!!!! though with dh :o)
friend's annual Xmas party. So shite is travel across London that by the time we settled dd at my parents we will get one hour at the party before we have to head for the last train home and we still will not get to bed before midnight!! I'm actuakky out five nights in the next seven so prepare for either total silence when I collapse in a coma of sleep.deprivation or deleterious ramblings all over the thread

Avalon so wish we could be with you in person to hug you and reassure you. Please maybe tell a friend in rl so you can share the worry. Your GP sounds totally lovely. Re your ex, how old is he? This is not very pc maybe but my feeling is if a man has sex with you and takes no long term interest in you then he has no claim to know. If you ended the relationship though maybe a different perspective.

Sorry not more updating, dh checked footy score so probably need to be more engaged!

Bah - dead jealous Scarecrow/Somewhere of your nights out! My night out tomorrow eve with friend has been cancelled - she texted yesterday to say she wanted to spend the eve with her ex instead. Slightly annoyed as haven't seen her for ages and kind of wish she'd just feigned illness or something rather than tell me I'd been passed over in favour of her useless ex! Never mind - trying to organise something with other friends for next weekend.

I do have something to look forward to tomorrow though - have an appointment first thing which I will tell you all about tomorrow if I survive

Avalon glad you got reassurance and support at the docs.

Have had a lovely tint. Rather too much death, illness, injury and serious grown up shit so we felt out she but also v sustaining x

Tint = night.
Out = our
She = age

That post worthy of a Scarecrow, some

DD up since half past four. Yes half past four _zzzzzzzzz

Got sent home from work yesterday. Couldn't talk and breathe at the same time. (Kindly and sympathetic words from friend and colleague, "you and your germs should f* off home while clingy boy isn't there", disclaimer, this is bloody brilliant friend and she made me laugh as much as I could with no breathing power!) spent day in bed. Feel a bit better today though so dizzy don't dare pick up BG. A bit of a whole system bug. Oh well. BG currently napping and am in bed with DH (noooo, we're on our iPads, stop it!).
Hooray for nights out, deep stuff included, boo to cancellations, (this does not excuse DH from his baby duties, eagle!) and to early wakenings.
Scarecrow, I vote for ramblings!

Oh and Avalon, I think you're doing bloody brilliantly. about ex. If you want to pm or a nice ranty phone conversation, please do!