Grow old with me! The best is yet to be. Come and join the 40+ mums plus babies, toddlers etc in the snug where tea, cake and sympathy are being served.

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We are 40+ mummies sharing all the highs and lows of our autumn crocus babies. Also sharing tips and information (most crying is tiredness!) and jokes. Please join us!

None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm
You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely
It's sad to grow old, but nice to ripen.

PS this thread title was created by eagleray, and she also found the quotes.

BBD I guess this is one of the problems of being an older mum - can't bank on mum to help out! I was actually supposed to be visiting her last week but cancelled as it was totally out of the question. She said something about how she should really be visiting me to help out, but never actually offered and has now reverted to asking me to visit again. Supposed to be going next week, but have told her I won't be making the journey unless I'm completely well. It's tricky for her as she doesn't like driving, my stepdad probably wouldn't want to come and the train journey is long.

at the gold kitchen!

Scarecrow you are right - people do generally like to be asked, although I'm generally terrible at asking for help. I've got a friend with a DD exactly the same age and she's had terrible health problems since the birth but puts on a brave face. We now have a pact that we will accept each other's help when needed instead of pretending everything's ok!

DD is going into nursery tomorrow pm, and depending on how I feel tomorrow, will try and book an additional session.

It's a sit in walker I'm looking for for rosebud, she likes to be vertical (not sure where she gets that from as horizontal is preferred by dh and I. Lol) hopefully picking one up tomorrow from the children's hospice shop tomorrow.

Dh and I had a lovely chat over dinner. We acknowledged each other's tiredness (no competition for most tired) and he said he could not cope with Summer like i do. That he would have cracked up by now. It was nice to get the recognition (having dinner cooked would have been nicer! !!)

Eagle. time to take care of yourself! Lots of fluids, vitamin supliment, and rest till you find out what's going on. Please take care with the lensip as I'm sure decongestants are bad for bf. (Affects supply I think)
I prescribe. .. hot water with juice of 1/2 lemon a good spoon of honey and a glug of whisky/brandy and paracetamol. Hope results come through soon. Xx

Bbd :( at babies growing up. But grow up the do. A is just adorable, I can picture her climbing mount everest of pillows in her polar suit.

Yay. I have the tummy bug. Throwing up like nothing on earth and we have no child are for tomorrow. Going to be a fun day...

Eagle, you sound so run down . I join in the calls to accept help (and ask for it) and hope this is a bit of a wake up call for your DH. Really hope you get rest and recuperation. Sleep through the night, baby eagle!

Rosie, sleep regression, argh. Tell rosebud those are so yesterday, trendy babies are skipping them.

Bbd great news that A will be with us! So looking forward to seeing her, haven't since January!

Oh, a really silly question
BG, after 16 months of effort, finally has hair! I used to just wipe a flannel over his little bald pate, but alas no more. How do I wash the hair of an energetic and wriggly baby without getting half the bath in his eyes?

goat pour. up.if water over head, rub in shampoo, pour cups of water over head if required. So basically tip a portion of the bath over his head. if you want to spoil him teach him to tip his head back (look at ceiling) and or close his eyes. Sorry BG

eagle so, you pick up phone, dial your mum, tell her you are aCtually properly ill and you need help at home so please could she come on Monday and stay til Friday next week. Thankyou mummyEagle

Lack of sleep is becoming painful again.
:(
Dh has taken a days holiday tomorrow so will have a 4 day weekend.

Goat. . Agree with scarecrow. There is noeeasy way to wash a wriggling baby's hair.

Goat, hope you feel better today, poor you, tummy bug and toddler running around...
Re hair washing, I sometimes use the bath support to lie A backward, give her a small toy to hold, pour water and rub very small amount of shampoo and rinse her hair. It is easy when she cooperates. When she doesn't well, she gets cups of water ....

Re hair washing what bbd said. It is up to them the easy way or the hard way.

Hugs to tired rosie, worn down eagle, and scarexrow in your sorrow about leaving kids.

eagle I plan to have my thyroid tested. I had really thick eyebrows which sadly have fallen out leaving me looking somewhat singed. Thats a hypo syndrome apparentky. Also fatigue. I will be interested to hear your results.

Xx

goat so hope you are starting.to feel better.

F I missed out goat. Hugs to you too. How awful. X

Poor you Goat bug sounds horrendous. How are you coping today?

Somewhere I think blood tests should be done as a matter of a routine a few months after giving birth as thyroid probs etc are so common. I should have been a lot more proactive really as it's not as if I'm not known to the local endocrinology department! Will keep you posted re my results...

Rosie hurrah I guess you have reached the finish line in terms of coping on your own - that's fab that DH is taking time off to help you.

I'm feeling a teeny bit better today - managed to get to swimming class first thing, and DD has been in nursery this afternoon. Am currently lying on the sofa under the biggest velvet throw you have ever seen. Once nursery pick-up is done, there's only an hour til DP comes home.

So folks, do you think it would be reasonable to expect DP to not even mention his bloody cycling this weekend? If it dominates another weekend, I think any feelings I have for him will just die. He has tons more free time than most other dads and frankly think it's time he started prioritising things.

Oh, and he's babysitting on saturday eve because I'm going OUT (even if I have to lie down when I'm in the pub).

Scarecrow22, hope you've had a better day today.

Eagleray, sounds like getting yourself well is the only thing you can do. You wouldn't be doing yourself any favours by pushing yourself at this point.

Yes, 7 weeks today!! Feels like I'm already giving Jessica Simpson a run for her money. I'm still thinking about getting an early scan but I'm a little afraid. I'd have to go alone and I'm worried they wouldn't see anything on the scan. Don't know how I'd deal with that. Of course in reality they'd probably see a heartbeat and I'd know everything was ok at this point. I almost bought a foetal doppler on eBay yesterday. Thankfully I was outbid. Thought that maybe I could find the heartbeat myself but at 7 weeks I don't think I would and I'd just upset myself.

I love feed to sleep feed. Always optometrist! !
Got the sit in walker today and it's fab. Got 3 x 1/2 hour hands free no cry time
Lots to say but dd asleep already
Eagle. .. re cycling, I had a conversation with dh re fifa (his current obsession) yesterday. It went along the lines of. ... your daughter is growing so fast and your missing it because you'd rather play a computer game. I told him that I didn't think he did enough by a long way
And he should want to spend time with dd above anything. (Except work) All very calmly
He has 3days off now so will report back.

Avalon, don't, just don't ever do that, you would worry yourself more than anything with this kind of gadget, forgive me if I am being to straight forward, babies can lie in so many ways that it can be very difficult to find/hear heartbeat, even for MW. I have had the experience with DS, the MW was a trainee and she couldn't find his heartbeat at 26wks, I then had an extra scan and all was fine,but i was very upset with her as she made me panic, I spent 2h waiting for the scan repeating myself that all was fine because I felt him move 5 minutes before the consultation but ready to burst into tears.

Eagle, I really hope DP will open his eyes, make him open them. Rosie I like your style, very cunning ! I love the Catimini dresses as well, Rosebud will be the most beautiful flower among flowers.

Goat, how are you feeling ?
Scarecrow, hugs, extra hugs
Somewhere, thyroid is worth looking at, my weight problem is due to hyperactive thyroid ! I keep burning everything.

A hummed Twinkle twinkle little star and did the actions as well. No, I promise, I am not on drugs, I heard and saw it but thought I was being very arrogant, but her nursery carer told me she A started humming in front of her during lunch !

RosieI want to.channel.some of your calm.maturity in these conversations. Do v much want report back - though more important is dh doesn't one day regret missing out. In fairness to my dh, compared to a kit of me he does a lot for dc despite inability to see why either child needed a coat when he left the house this morning

eagle hurrah for progress but have you rung your mum and asked for help. You need to get better, not survive (well survival is first priority but ykwim). Maybe pre empt conversation with dp about cycling. I don't want to pander but somebody has given me v good advice about entering such conversations with a positive statement (I look forward to you coming home so much at the weekend...maybe) and then opening the discussion with a question which invites them in rather than an aggressive lash out (do you feel we have our time together well balanced, or I've been thinking about how much your cycling means to you and know I sometimes sound un supportive so is there a better way we can fit in your rides...or even do you think we are getting on well....) I'm sure you'll have better specific ideas but hope I convey the gist of it...

goat do hope you are better, though maybe a day in bed while BG is at cm tonorrow is in order?

oh, and Avalon please don't buy Doppler. I was given one in second pregnancy and never once found hb, even at 38 weeks. Also hb alone is not a great indicator which is why doctors do.other checks and ask.about movement.
On early scan I really recommend you ring a clinic like the Foetal Medicine Centre in Harley Street (hopefully are some a lot closer but doesn't really.matter for phone call): you can ask them what they offer, when, what you will fins out, and so on. When I rang I was v impressed with how well informed and helpful reception staff are: it is clear they are trained to talk you through the options. A call is free, so to speak.
Good luck

Avalon. ... step away from the dopler! Lol I'd second scarecrow, try and get an early scan. (Around £50 i think) and some much closer to you than London. (Google will tell you where)

Hope everyone else is feeling better. Eagle recovery takes time and rushing it won't helpt.... can you book a room for Friday night and just sleep! !! Lol.

Avalon I agree with the others - a doppler is such a bad idea for so many reasons, and completely pointless at this stage. I actually ended up having my first scan on my own, by accident. The day before my first scan was due, I had to go to the hospital to see the obstetrician regarding an ongoing medical condition. When I arrived, I saw a member of staff (possibly a nurse) who asked a few questions. She said how exciting it was that I was having my scan the next day - I had so much built-up anxiety and nervousness about the whole thing that I burst into tears and said it was probably a waste of time as there probably wasn't a baby there. She went off and fetched the obstetrician there and then, who came in and was really lovely and offered to do the scan there and then, and reassured me that in the unlikely event things had gone wrong, we would deal with that when it happened. So she did the scan, with the other lady holding my hand and me howling and sobbing and there was DD dancing on the screen! Cue more sobbing.

I had a couple more scans on my own and the staff always made the biggest fuss of me with lots of free scan pics that they should have charged for

DP here so had the chat about his pursuit of hobbies at the weekend. He promised he would only do a bike ride if it was done early in the day and quickly. I also asked him (pushing my luck here) if he could try and leave work earlier on a weds so that he didn't arrive home late and keep DD up past her bedtime. I thought the problem was that he wasn't getting out of bed in time, but turns out he does get up early, but goes swimming before work! I can't nitpick through his life the whole time so will let this one go, but he has been warned about the bike stuff!

Rosie hurrah for the walker buying you some time! Good luck with keeping DH off the FIFA.

BBD what a little star A is with her singing. It's strange when they do stuff like that for the first time as easy to put down to wishful thinking. It won't be long now before she does the proper words!

Scarecrow sorry no I haven't asked my mum to come and stay because it's so much bloody hassle, plus am feeling a bit better today, thank god. I think I'm also weirded out by the fact that she's no longer in a position really to be 'carer' as struggles with public transport or anything really that isn't part of her normal routine. She did text though to say that she was looking forward to seeing me next week, just in case I had forgotten to come... My stepdad is always ill too, which limits what she can do outside the house his children seem to get a lot more help funnily enough

Just settled dd with a sucky tag thing and sush pat .:):my nipples are great full for my efforts

Dgs is poorly and dd1 understandably needing lots of support. It's great to be able to give her all the good advice so recently gained from here. And i have empathy in buckets. Bless her she's a bit gf in her approach so my advice is not always well received, she doesn't co sleep EVER( as it's a bad habit for baby apparently) and is only still bf at all be because she doesn't want to tell me she has stopped (No problems feeding it's just not what her friends do and they think it's weird) thankfully mummy pressure has always won over pere pressure with her.

Bbd i love your A stories. :) at dresses. They are like little rainbows of love. I found a beautiful little cardie to go with her dress in the bottom draw. So cute will post pic for you. X

Staggers on and waves. I survived yesterday, despite BG discovering loads of new climbing routes and determinedly spending the day apparently trying to break his own neck. And not sleeping. And climbing over mum while she lay on the floor.
Well, silver lining, I am now pre-preg weight finally!

Goat Yay re pre pregnancy weight. :)

Just had huge row with the nhs density clinic. They are refusing to give me sedation because I'm bf. I thought I'd dealt with all this. So angry and upset. Ffs women have c section and feed their babies. ... i just need 2 teeth out! They areeven rrefusing to follow there own policy and saying i CANT bring my baby at all!!! Right off to cause as much stink as I can. Silly woman picked the wrong person to prevent from bf or refuse a simple necessary dental op.

Go Rosie! Feel so angry on your behalf!! Have you got any official bodies/associations who can back you up or support you?