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DH and I desperate for help/break from the kids (long)

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bistokids · 16/04/2011 22:43

We have two lovely daughters aged 5.9 and 1.10, we live in our home town and we both work (I do three days). Sadly, my own parents are deceased and I have no other relatives. DH has one brother who lives at the other end of the country and who has issues with being out of work/getting divorced/alcoholism. His parents live locally to us, they are both 61 and retired, fit and well.

DH is the elder brother - the 'successful' one. He has a good job - we look for all the world like a family who are 'coping' and 'sorted', however, we are hanging in by the skin of our teeth and so desperate for help with the girls. They are lovely children, but both very verbal, bright and demanding (I wouldn't say spoilt - just always on the go and full of ideas - DD1 is on the gifted and talented thingy at school). The 4 year age gap means they demand very different things - the little one wants to play chase, the big one wants help with a jigsaw. We're always knackered. DD1 woke at 5am every day for the first 3 years (sometimes 4am) - we took it in turns to get up at 4-5am every day for that three years until she learned to read a clock. I don't think we have ever recovered. Our marriage isn't in a good state.

In the last 5.9 years, I can count on one hand the times my PILs have helped with the kids. They once took DD1 for a walk when DH rang them from work to tell them I was desperate for help (that was in 2006). They also took her out to feed the ducks on Easter Sunday last year because we had cooked lunch and this gave us chance to clear up the dishes afterwards. We moved house in January and they gave us half a day of help but this consisted of (literally) barricading DD2 into the dining room until she howled and howled, at which point MIL repeatedly told her she was 'naughty' (she wasn't - she had been barricaded into a room for hours). On the plus side, we got to move lots of boxes around the house, though they left at exactly 5pm to have their dinner in a local pub, as 5pm was the time they had agreed with each other to leave. They have never been alone with DD2, who is almost 2.

My in-laws are not very perceptive and even when I've tried to explain we need help, it seems to go over their head. They rarely visited until recently (FIL retired 5 years ago) when MIL retired from her part-time job and complained she didn't know how she would fill her time (FIL goes fishing and watches a lot of telly). She decided she would visit every Thursday. I work every other Thursday, which means she collects DD1 from school on the weeks I work. She brings sweets for both children but doesn't see DD2 as DD2 is at nursery that day. I do appreciate this help, but it's always felt more about filling MIL's time than helping us out. FIL rarely visits unless we are cooking him a meal, particularly if he thinks it will be a barbeque. When he does visit, he is totally disinterested in the kids but very interested in our telly because we have Sky TV and he doesn't. He pointedly visits if there's a football match he wants to see but is quite happy to sit alone in the sitting room with the door closed where the kids can't disturb him.

DH says his parents both grew up in emotionally cold households. He is disappointed by the lack of involvement (which hit him last December when they refused to come to DD1's nativity play because it was being held at 9.30am and they didn't want to get up so early) but accepts this is how they are. They are recently beginning to show some interest in DH's brother since he admitted being an alcoholic. In comparison, we seem fine. In reality, we are screaming. Not waving but drowning.

I would love not to have to do the bedtime thing, just once. I would love somebody else to make the kids' tea - just once. They are well behaved, in a good routine, go to bed at 7pm and always go straight to sleep. We have a babysitter we pay but obviously we can't stay the night anywhere. I worry we are heading for a divorce - we spend no time together, we pass the children like batons to juggle our work commitments, we spilt up all the time to give the children the attention they need (for example, one takes DD1 rollerskating, the other stays home with DD2 who still has a nap).

I have really begun to resent this situation. We have no life, no marriage. We are like zombies, two mates doing 24 hour on-call rotas looking after these children with no support whatsoever. I have begun to resent my in-laws, especially when they tell me of the increasingly bizarre ways they are finding of filling their time (most recently, travelling to random places and back via several modes of transport, just to fill their day and because it's free now they have a bus pass - they have a car too). DH was going to invite them for Easter but I've finally said no. I don't want to cook for them - we have them several times a year for sunday lunch and they usually repay the favour once (boxing day, cold meats and bread type thing). I'm so tired, I don't know where to turn.

Not good this, is it?

I feel so lonely and desperate for a break.

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kaj32 · 18/04/2011 16:46

I do agree with some of the other posters. I think you've managed to convince yourself that life would be wonderful if only ...

It's ok, we all get like that. I've not had a day or night off in 11.5 months from my little girl and I can only imaging how exhausting it is for so many years, particularly when you are essentially on your own for a lot of the care.

Have you looked into childminders? some offer overnight care. Or do any of your friends have an au-pair or nanny who you could 'borrow' for a while? Could you afford to perhaps put your youngest child into nursery for one extra half day a week so you and your husband get that time alone together?

There are options out there, although it does mean you would have to pay for them. I hope you find a solution soon.

mamatomany · 18/04/2011 16:55

I'm sorry but imagine being sent to overnight care with some stranger so your mum and dad can have a jolly, imagine that from a child's point of view.

zeeboo · 18/04/2011 17:02

Let me get this straight... You have 2 kids?? Not 4 or 6 or 12 but two? And when one is nearly 6 so doesn't really need alot of full on care from you, I can't see why you need this rest so badly? Its hardly like youve got twin newborns and a 3 year old. Bonkers, and so not your PILs problem.

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NoelEdmondshair · 18/04/2011 17:10

Oh sod off, zeeboo.

Bumpsadaisie · 18/04/2011 17:42

Bistokids

You're finding it tough and those are valid feelings.

But some of the things that get you down are the sorts of things that I for example would just forget about and not have any feelings about. Eg if my 2 year old wont stay still for a nappy change, and if when I distract her with a shoe, she hits me with it. My DD is sometimes a pain to change, how often I don't really remember cos I don't really register it that much.

I wonder if you WORRY about the fact that your DD2 is a pain when you change her, perhaps you feel she ought not to be a pain and you are doing something wrong because she plays up? Whereas actually its just a two year old thing to play up and wriggle when being changed and is no reflection on you whatsoever!

BTW we all find it tough - but I think perhaps some people don't worry that they do so because they expect it to be tough? Perhaps with you the worrying about it being tough is actually the tough part, rather than the actual frustrations and annoyances?

Guitargirl · 18/04/2011 17:46

bisto - I do understand where you are coming from.

We also have 'just' (which according to some posters shouldn't be a problem!) 2 DCs. DP and I both work full-time flexible hours which means there is an element of relay parenting going on as another poster described it. On some days I am leaving for work as he is getting home, etc. DC are aged 4 and 2. We have a childminder 2 mornings a week and our eldest DC is in school nursery mornings, she will start full-time in Reception in September.

As I work from home quite a lot this inevitably means working at night when the DCs are asleep. I also study part-time, I know people will suggest giving that up but as I started (part-time PhD) before I became pregnant with my eldest and have invested so much time and effort into it I am reluctant to stop now...

My ILs live abroad and MIL is very ill at the moment, DP has been away on 3 10-day trips to visit her since Christmas (am not complaining about that just explaining some context as to why I am so knackered!). My parents live 300 miles away, we go to visit them very regularly. They are very warm and welcoming to the children but they absolutely cannot cope with them on their own. I have to be there all the time so although it is a break as in they entertain them I don't get time to myself, can't even go to the toilet in peace when am there! I usually take the DCs there on my own which means DP gets a much needed break but I would give a lot for a similar chance to recharge the batteries!

I think part of it is that I am an only child and they just don't cope well with more than one at the same time. They used to look after my Mum's niece every single Saturday all day from when she was about 3 weeks old. But she was bottle fed and had a dummy. I think the fact that both of mine were breastfed for so long meant that my parents never really developed the confidence that they would be able to soothe the DCs if they cried. If my boobs weren't there they just didn't know what to do.

But now the DCs are 4.3 and 2.3. I can see that they are much more relaxed around our eldest now that she is of an age where they can reason with her and is no longer prone to tantrums. I am already mentally booking them in for weekend childcare in 2 years time! I just hope that my parents will still be fit enough by then!

In the meantime, I plod on vaguely thinking about visiting the GP, I get the number out most weeks, stare it for a bit and then put it back. The worst thing is and I am ashamed to admit but I look at how much more help friends of mine got from their family when they were diagnosed with PND and I wonder whether that might make a difference!?! Not good is it...

livinginthesticks · 19/04/2011 00:31

If you have the money you can pay a temporary agency for an overnight nanny. You can also find a babysitter that will stay over if you have a spare room. You can take it in turns to go out with your husband and go out with friends or take up a sport. I think you are finding it so hard because your youngest is at a difficult age - in a few years everything will be different.

I am a single parent and don't have most of those options - I'm not trying to say poor me by the way, I'm just trying to say that I would love to be able to go out for a swim in the evenings or meet some friends etc but I can't. I'm sure it will get better. It must be hard to have unhelpful in laws but I think you have to lower your expectations of them.

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