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Asylum seekers and immigrants.

255 replies

doormat · 10/07/2003 12:36

Carrying on from benefits-unfit parents thread.

Any views on this subject anyone????

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donnie · 11/07/2003 15:24

quackers you have answered your own questions; I wonder why the asylum seekers are all so poorly ? could it be because they have been denied access to decent medical care in their native countries ? and why do you refer to them as 'such people' as if they are a lesser species ?

beetroot · 11/07/2003 15:24

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donnie · 11/07/2003 15:25

and btw, pretty much EVERYONE'S council tax has gone up. Are you really suggesting these rises are because of influx of immigrants and asylum seekers ?

donnie · 11/07/2003 15:27

beetroot - of course I will my dear ! but only if you can chuck me a few hundred quid every month as I'm skint !!!! ( must be all these awful foreigners I'm paying for....) xxxxxxx

oliveoil · 11/07/2003 15:27

Rhubarb - I live near an area where there is massive race problems, both against asians and so called 'reverse racism' ie against whites, only moved here to be near MIL, would love to move back to my original area.

As the council seem to segregate people, no one mixes and this just creates more problems.

Local media don't seem to help by reporting every crime as a race crime when not necessrily so.

Boe · 11/07/2003 15:32

I live near where Steven Lawrence was killed (well not too far away - can run there so!!) and have never seen any problems but if I told anyone where I live they always bring it up and refer to places like Oldham.

sis · 11/07/2003 15:32

Donnie and beetroot, your posts really lift my spirit please keep up the great work!

beetroot · 11/07/2003 15:35

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oliveoil · 11/07/2003 15:38

I live in Oldham . Used to live in a mega area (the Mcr version of Nottinghill I was told!) and miss it big time. There was the same ethnic mix as Oldham but people lived side by side, in Oldham people don't and that's where the problems start. Not lived here long and hope to move before bad attitudes are inflicted on dd.

pie · 11/07/2003 15:44

Just like to add that my grandmother was an asylum seeker, whose family were segregated, faced racist abuse and told, when she received govt help was told that Britain should look after its own and ended up in an East London Ghetto were being amongst her own race helped cushioned the blows of racist comments.

She was seeking asylum for Nazi Germany which claimed the lives of 4 of her siblings and all her uncles and aunts.

The sad truth is that few know the full horror of what people go through until it is too late. I personally would always want to see people given the benefit of the doubt. Too many nations refused to believe in concentration camps when the Nazis were at the height of their power and I would hate to see that happen again.

In the first quarter of this year there were 16,000 applications for asylum of these 3,990 left voluntarily or were deported. The remaining 12,010 remain whilst their cases are investigated. The top five applicant nationalities in the first quarter of 2003 in the UK were Iraqi, Somali, Zimbabwean, Afghan, and Chinese.

In China there are CURRENTLY an estimated 50 million people in concentration camps for "reform through labor". In Somalia and Zimbabwe the effects of the civil wars are well documented. And crikey I think we all know about Iraq and Afghanistan.

As these are where the majority of asylum seekers come from I find it hard to understand why anyone would think that there isn't a real need for the richest countries in the world to provide sanctuary.

quackers · 11/07/2003 16:02

Actually as I said I have no personal opinion on it and the if the tone of my post offended - apologies, wasn't my intention. I was actually making that very point that the health service has had to make decisions to enable them to get medical attention. 'Such people' was a way of describing the asylum seekers and was not a way of suggesting they are lesser beings. On the contrary.
With regards council tax, it was the locaL news in ken that confirmes the rise had come about because of the costs of housing more and more ILLEGAL immigrants.

quackers · 11/07/2003 16:03

Should have read Kent - sorry!

tamum · 11/07/2003 16:08

Can I just say beetroot, Donnie, sis and pie, I love you . I would be utterly depressed reading this if it wasn't for your posts.

SamboM · 11/07/2003 16:12

Olive oil you live in Oldham and you avoid London? Hmmmm.

Know where I'd rather be.

PS Notting Hill now full of bankers and trustafarians so not a desirable area at all!

quackers · 11/07/2003 16:13

Isn't it great when we can all get on!

SamboM · 11/07/2003 16:13

Apologies to anyone normal who still lives in NH, if there are any of you left!

hmb · 11/07/2003 16:15

What is a trustafarian???

SamboM · 11/07/2003 16:20

Irritating children (between 15 and 35 generally) who have very rich parents who fund their sad existence of lounging around "seedy" yet poncy bars, having crap haircuts and pretending to live a really chill life (which of course they do but have no moral fibre)

Often to be found masquerading as DJs, musos, artists in general, it's just when you then go back to their "struggling artist" abode and find it's a 5 bed stucco mansion in W11 the penny drops.

Lots of them go mad due to too much cocaine and pot, the rest just disappear after they reach 35...

hmb · 11/07/2003 16:29

So we have a small group that is OK to dislike!! A boon for PC misanthropes everwhere

SamboM · 11/07/2003 16:30

On the other hand, they can be quite a larf and are always wadded which is handy when you're young!

pie · 11/07/2003 16:50

EXCUSE ME!!!!!

I have lived in Notting Hill for ALL my 26 years, and both my mother and grandmother live here too. And I'm neither a trustifarian or a banker, thank you very much.

I'm one of those orginal Boho JewBu types the trusifarians pretend to be. But they're rich

SamboM · 11/07/2003 16:57

Precisely Pie, you are the sort I'm talking about, the real ones who somehow still remain!

I hope you saw my apology in advance

SamboM · 11/07/2003 16:57

How's the SPD btw?

pie · 11/07/2003 17:00

Don't you go waving your bait around I'm like a fish pie today

Acutally they doesn't sound too good does it

SPD is crap as ever, S E X hurts

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