things we are not allowed to say on mumsnet.

[stitch]

bottle feeding is second best.

living together as being in the least way undesirable.

marriage shows more commitment.

children need more than one parent

any opiinion resulting from religious faith. bigoted or not.

the opinion that children should have some sort of clothes on all the time. or that they should be made qware of private parts.

in fact any opinion that is not politically correct.

feel free to add any topics you feel i many have missed

oh, and hurling abuse at people is ok as long as you do not use swear words, and it is directed as someone who has a viewpoint different from yours.

[handlemecarefully]

Just taken a look at it - and to be honest I couldn't get past the first few posts because I found it unpalatable. Not Stitch's questions (and I don't necessarily align myself to her views) but some of ther responses to them which were frankly far more offensive.

[weesaidie]

Some views may have been offensive but maybe they found the first post offensive?

Also I think there were a lot of intelligent sensible posts and many people were merely giving their view.

People have differnt opinions and a right to express them and argue over them, but obviously it shouldn't become a slanging match. But I agree with Pruni, you can't say that just because someone doesn't agree it doesn't mean their opinions aren't valid.

[handlemecarefully]

"but why dont you want to get married starlover, that s what i am asking?
nosy, i know, if you feel offended, then dont answer please. its not my intention to offend anyone. "

Very early quote from Stitch which should have cleared things up. She did not intend any offence, but was simply asking questions. She didn't deserve responses like "Blimey Stitch what the f* are you on". Inexcusable and pathetic IMO

[handlemecarefully]

I did see some measured responses though weesaidie - must admit.

[QueenOfQuotes]

HMC - I 'in general' agree with her (at least I've done everything the "right" way) but she annoyed me too.........the tone of her first post (and some of her subsequent posts) were very 'off'

And then to come and start this thread after starting what she MUST have known would be a controversial thread is a bit 'off' if you ask me.

If you're going to post something controversial don't get arsey when people disagree with you - and if you 'do' get wound up.........don't start another thread bemoaning it all!

[MrsGordonRamsay]

I am testing this new name out

[handlemecarefully]

I'm empathasising with her QoQ because I recently got a mauling for an off the cuff remark which I felt was deliberately made more of than it should have been in some quarters.

and I've seen it happen on a number of threads. It's almost like some Mumsnetters go looking for controversy where there doesn't need to be any.

And my guess is that she has started this thread because she is feeling upset and needs to vent

[handlemecarefully]

Lol, okay so who is MrsGordonramsey

[MrsGordonRamsay]

No, no you just carry on, I am just sitting here quietly.........


I am not trolling, honest

[handlemecarefully]

Would this be LGJ by any chance?

[MrsGordonRamsay]

I am not, but Lord God I would like to have met him pre DH................and pre his DW.

[MrsGordonRamsay]

Bugger


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[QueenOfQuotes]

"and I've seen it happen on a number of threads. It's almost like some Mumsnetters go looking for controversy where there doesn't need to be any."


Well yes she started what was OBVIOUSLY going to be a cotroversial post - she could hardly expect such a topic to be accepted and agreed with with open arms!!!

"And my guess is that she has started this thread because she is feeling upset and needs to vent"


Oooo - I know - everytime people come down hard on someone they should start a thread complaining about it.......thus prolonging the whole thing .

People came down hard on me on my thread yesterday - I didn't come rushing to start a new thread saying how many things I "thought" wasn't allowed to be said.

At the end of the day most of us don't 'know' each other, it's a screen - if you can't take the "highs" with the "lows" - switch your PC off!

[handlemecarefully]

Gordon Ramsey proudly stated on Room 101 that he has never changed a nappy in his life! - and he has kids!

That dampened any ardour I might have felt for him

[handlemecarefully]

Ah QoQ,

Just 'cos you are hard as nails doesn't meant that others aren't a bit more vulnerable...

[GordonKnowitsChristmas]

I am a very strong person, and I find myself making allowances for him ................dream dream, drool.

[GordonKnowitsChristmas]

Thats mine booked then

[handlemecarefully]

I love the Christmas name variation

[LGJ]

Who is this Gordon person then ???

[handlemecarefully]

PMSL!

[handlemecarefully]

Right I'm off to bed. Haven't made it to bed before midnight so far this week and it's beginning to catch up on me.

[Cam]

It is another full moon

[Lizzylou]

Hope you're feeling better today Stitch, I very often don't agree with what people are saying, but do tend to ihgnore those threads, so you are a braver woman than me! I hope you don't feel I was rude to you?

I am too hot and it's too hunid, I hardly slept and maybe, just maybe I will start a controversial thread off today!

[suzywong]

well?
has it?
yet?

[Nightynight]

stitch
hope you're feeling better today too.

FWIW, Im always ready to justify my own life choices. eg Married a foreigner! - and while everyone may be very nice on mumsnet, I got enough hate in RL to know what many people's true opinion of my marriage was. Point is, I know I didnt do anything to be ashamed of, so I'll explain that logically to anyone who has the courage to start a thread against international marriage!

But I too hide my opinions about many things on mumsnet because I know they would attract loads of hate posts from people. Not fashionable or pc, you see. What really pisses me off is that I went back to university to study political philosophy so that I could work out my life philosophy from first principles, and most of the people who would be piling into me just hold fashionable beliefs, and would probably have been saying the opposite a hundred years ago!

It is certainly true that there are some views that simply cant be touched because of the extreme response that they generate. From reading mumsnet threads, I have concluded that many people have closed minds, and dont want to see beyond the politically correct. If they're in the majority, they dont feel the need to justify their view - even if it's wrong.

Some people on mumsnet hold views that I personally find scarily naive! But these people dont see themselves as being on the fringes at all.

IMO for what its worth, I think its good to have sensitive subjects out, but people should be extra careful to be polite, and think about what they are saying. You wont convert anyone to the majority view by ridiculing them, and if you open your mind, the most logical view might win rather than the majority one!