help me with my housing situation please!!!!!!!!

[sparklymieow]

Some of you will have read my threads on my neighbours but we are pushing to get moved, having the housing manager coming out tomorrow and I want to get out of here. My SIL is in Bolton and I have expressed an inerested in 2 houses up there. Homeless won't help because the police can't give me a letter, council want to me to start the eviction process (ie complain and get them to sort it out or face eviction) but I can't do that as I know it will make things worse. Now I need some help to get us moved, I have 2 disabled kids and they can't live like this, and I have to go out a lot for appointments etc and its so scary going out. Please help me.

regarding photo taking and video cameras - I should mention that ASBO don't suggest or recommend you do that. They leave the decision to you, but know from experience that this can sometimes antagonise the offenders and your safety comes before evidence gathering.
If the situation worsens, they can, at their descretion have a hidden camera fitted.

Tell the doc about the hair. Write these things down before you see the doc, then you don't forget it all. Keep it factual.

sparkly, my dh had problem neighbours years ago and he was told to keep awell written diary, so for example iot wouldsay, 2am, 3 youths in cars just pulled up, loud music, swearing etc, then, next day 4cars blocking drive, one youth outside shouting obsenities at the house, aggressive behaviour towards myself etc, feel threatened. asregards the video, i think its fine as long as you make sure it is hidden because as zipzip says if they see it , it will antagonise them, you need to let them think that their behaviour is going unrecorded. I suffer from panic attacks very severly sparkly so i sympathise with you there.

I hate panic attacks, they scared me, I just burst into tears afterwards and DS came and rubbed my back, saying 'there,there'

i get at least one a day, sparkly and more if stressed or tired, im usually at home aloneand just have to work through it, its the fear thats so debitating, i go dizzy, sweaty, lightheaded, heart races etc, horrible things.

As spacecadet says, the well written diary is invaluable. Good use of words in her example. ie loud music, shouting obscenities aggressive

Through working with asbo I've learned what can and can't be used.
example - if a neighbour makes a statement as follows - I heard the sound of breaking glass so I looked outside and saw that my greenhouse was broken. I saw 3 youths walking away but it was dark so i couldn't see their faces. I knew it was X Y and Z because they are always here causing trouble and breaking things.

This will not be used. It will not even reach court as a witness statement and if it does will be thrown out. Very frustrating, because we all know it was X Y and Z but the statement is too vague and does not identify them.
Instead the statement should say - I looked outside and saw 3 youths. Although it was dark, there was street lighting close by which enabled me to recognise them as x y and z.

another example - they were shouting obscenities - not as good as - as I entered my house they were shouting obscenities, swearing and making threatening remarks regarding breaking my windows. As I looked back at them they were staring at me and so I knew these remarks were directed at me. I felt extremely vulnerable on this occasion and fearful. I rushed inside my house and locked my door.

If you cannot hand on heart possitively identify them then don't. A witness in my case made this mistake and it turns out the boy she claimed was doing blah was with the social worker who can make a statement saying so. This puts the rest of your statement into question.

some rules - ignor hearsay, use fact. If your hear in the local shop that they have just shot 127 people in the park you cannot use this in your statement. It's hearsay. It will upset you but it's hearsay. If they have done it, someone else will deal with it.
A closing footnote to your finished statement could contain ' I feel extremely fearful for my safety as I am aware that they have alledgedly killed 127 people. The keyword here is still could
It all revolves around fact. A judge may have sympathy if you tell him you are ill because of this but he can't act on it. If your doctor says you are ill, he can (same applies to housing)
Basically (as I said to you) your arms could fall off but they can't believe it unless a doctor has confirmed it.
facts = time, date, witnesses, written evidence, identify, exactly where they are, direction they are going, coming from etc etc

hi sparkly!, did you look at the websites in my post Saturday, 4 June, 2005 4:45:18 PM?
bless you zipzip for your advice.
nutcracker, didn't know you had to go through this kind of thing too.

they have been standing outside staring at the house. Have been looking at the council site to see what housing developments are going up round here, the council are putting huge amounts of money into it.

even staring at your house is classed as intimidating if it makes you feel uneasy, write it dow...x and y are stood outside at x time stsring at the house, this makes me feel threatened and intimidated.

scuse typos

have just put up an ad on a website for an exchange too.

ok, thats a good idea, mind you, would it show up that you had complained about yourneighbours

don't think so, it is only us, everyone knows them but is having no trouble.

oh ok.

jus had a street warden forum leaflet through the door, its on wednesday. they are discussing coping with fear of crime and addressing antisocial behaviour, I have just rang the head of the team and left a message, we never have the street wardens down here, maybe the commuity officer said something to them.

more than a little co-incidental i think.

I thought so too, seems odd that just as I am having these problems suddenly the street wardens are interested in this area. mmmmmmmm....... they normally contrate on the local shops and where the younger kids hang out.

how do you feel about it??

I want to go and have a go at them, but its in the evening and I not sure about leaving Dh and the kids alone. I want to scream at them that its too late, that people are getting away with this behaviour because without the people complaining they can't do anything. That people are fearful because people aren't doing their jobs. etcetc....

i knowwhat you mean, but then youd be afraid to even open your curtains in the morning.

no, i meant the street wardens..

no i know, rofl, i meant though that it might get back to the scumbags.

its going to get back to them anyway, must phone thwe housing manager tomorrow.

So pleased to hear about the Warden meeting!
This will be as a result of you informing people that there is a problem. well done you, you have got things moving. Give yourself a pat on the back

oh, but don't shout at people who are trying to help you, or they may decide not to help
they haven't done anything before because they weren't aware of a problem - now they are and they are about to see what they can do to help.

If you cannot attend, you could write a letter to them thanking them for holding a meeting and stating it is regrettable that you cannot attend, but you are too afraid to go out of the house in the evening. Invite them to contact you should they wish to hear of your problems, and stress that if they do so to use utmost discretion.

I have left a message on his mobile phone. Quite shocked actually that we had a leaflet put through. I wonder if I can get someone to sit here with DH and come with me? I really want to go to see how they are going to address this. I last saw the street warden round here about year ago when they were doing rounds with the police, and fire bridge, making sure that peoples alarms worked, marking mobiles phones, and asking us what problems we had, I said we had problems with fireworks over the playing fields (behind us) going off at all hours. The street warden said that they would patrol that area.

sparkly the adviceyou are getting from zipzip is second to none, def agree that if you cant go, write informing them why, they may visit you at home.