go Jeremy! go Jeremy!

[onebatmother]

If you are interested in discussing the philosophy of Jeremy Bentham, please join this thread.

Not even a little bit, philosophically speaking?
hmpf

oh good, I was worried you'd be talking about Jeremy Vine. who is jeremy Kyle?

anyway, onebatmother -
"Though I do think that F was broadly right in his idea that the Panopticon was the model not only for the 'modern' prison but for modern society. "

I hope you mean "F was broadly prescient..." a truly "panopticon" society is not right is it?

I quite like utilitarianism though. in an abstarct, and utterly non practicable way.

he was mad as a stuffed spoon.

I could murder a Plato chips.

Geddit??

Didn't some students steal him once during rag week?

Yes boco. pff that was a harrowing weekend I can tell you!

Boco - you're right. Early 80s UCL "pranksters", I believe. Can't remember what they actually did with him.

Hello Senora!
No, I think Foucault wasn't predicting, he was analysing the way in which modernity had been achieved, by making the whole of society self-surveilling, amongst other things.

Or that's how I read it anyway. it is vaaairy long ago

reads SP's post again and realizes with enormous admiration that SP DOESN'T KNOW WHO JEREMY KYLE IS!

In fact, Jeremy Kyle is the apogee of the cult of authenticity, I think. As well as the idea that an experience isn't truly authentic until it has been 'mediated' and endleslly reproduced.

LISTEN HERE! PEOPLE COME TO ME LOOKING FOR THE TRUTH - IN MY OPINION YOUNG LADY YOU ARE A DISGRACE!
GET UP OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND GET A JOB!
THERE'S A BABY INVOLVED, AN INNOCENT CHILD!
LOOK AT HER LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO HER!
AS A BRITISH TAX PAYER I'D NEVER LET MY DAUGHTER DO THAT

AND THAT MADAM, IS A FACT!

YOU'RE NOT EVEN WORTHY OF SPRAY MARMITE! AND I KNOW, BECAUSE MY BROTHER WAS A DRUG ADDICT!

onebat that also clarifies the spice girls and similar phenomena... Sadly.

Chortle at Jerermy Kyle. You, sir, are a worthy master of the televisual Panopticon.

is it bad to fancy Jeremy Kyle?

It's quite fucked up.

His eyes! He has the cold dead eyes of a killer.

It's definitely worse than wanting to have sex with your horse, but probably not quite as bad as necrophilia.

obt - righty. I have to admit I skim read the thread, thought F was a typo and you were agreeing with Bentham.

I'm afraid I do know who Jeremy kyle is. vaguely. I wouldn't recognise him though if it helps?

also is there an idea about that experience isn't authentic until mediated?

why the endless misery memoirs then? It would be so much better if someone else could "mediate" (and precis) them.

It might clear some space on the bookshop's shelves for interesting stuff.

I would say that the experience is authenticated for the author through the mediating process of writing it down and getting it all published for all to see.

Do you know, I am too fucked off for badinage about Jeremy Kyle's huge cock, which shamefully is where I was going with this one.

There really is a pitiful dumbed-down, fucking bonehead anti-intellectualism on MN, and to call someone a wanker and then fuck off is the MO of a cowardy-custard, IMO.

that cheered me up.

senora - Jeremy Kyle is the one with the huge cock

Good. Just let it all out. It was very rude.

Has he got a huge cock? I thought he was a huge cock.

What? Who?
Who called who a wanker, where?
Why?
Why did someone call someone a wanker?
Then where did they go?

iorek yes - which then becomes one of the many processes/texts against which the reader checks the 'authenticity' of all other experiences. Does it refer to something which has been authenticated by being reproduced?