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[Rosa]

Ciao - Everybody Welcome.

ciao to you all. i miss you all.

still in italy. booked flight for friday although house is still a mess and will not be ready for another while, prob a month. so l'll have to relocate to my fil which is not in london and l'll have dd with me all the time before and after birth. dh suggested I have the baby here which would be great helpwise but horrible as he will prob miss it. don't know what's best.

didn't read all thread but re routines i used to criticise the italia way but seems to work wonders for dd. she has her aft nap now from 2 to 4 without a fuss and goes to bed like an angel (miracle) at 9ish or even later but is quiet and lovely. really don't know what will do back home where the childminder gives her dinner at 5.30. maybe l'll ask her to give her merenda instead.

going to read the rest to see how you al are. how are you anyway? hothell how's the pg?

Hi Pippi, Glad all going ok . My suggestion would be Italy could dh not take any holiday at all to be there with you when you give birth and then maybe come back and forth until the house is ready ?? Then you could have your parenti to help you with dd.
Glad dd is doing well re sleeping. Have you had any more tests strep b scan etc ???

ciao Pippi!!!!
Gosh, why oh why do building works drag on for ages???
I seriously wouldn't know what to do if I was in your shoes. I don't think I'd have spent the last month of pg with a little one and no help at all . I'd be really tempted to say... stay where you are!!! My mum was in Exeter when dd was born (and my mil stayed the 2 weeks before to hel and missed dd for one day ) and I couldn't have coped without her, mainly because dd was unwell and we had to spend 5 days in hospital and mum looked after ds and then I needed her because the episode killed my self confidence etc etc etc sorry for the rant.
On the other hand I think you are more "robust" than me and you just get on with it better than I do (I think) so maybe you can take that flight!
Wherever you'll be we'll be here to say "go pippi go, spingi., spingi

Rosa you sound like a very creative person! Bet you are great with children !

oi??? where are you all? I need someone to talk me out of some mild broodiness I've been experiencing.
Helpppppppppppppppppppp

Cara Franca, let me put you off your broodiness: feeing tired all the time, desire to do nothing, puky again, very hormonal, ds gets on my nerves, want to go to bed till baby comes.
Is this enough to put you off? I am so not broody, it is a bit worrying.
Poor pippi, bloody builders, did they lie to you, didnt' they say they would finish quickly?
Is fil going to help in the UK? Or anyone else? Would also be tempted to stay in italy, it's a bit weird if your dh misses the birth, but he might miss it if you are outside London? Anyway don't stress, it sounds as if you have lots of people who can support you wherever you are...

keep going, keep going . Honestly, what puts me off the most is toddlerhood, from 1-3... exhausting.

(are you feeling that shitty hh? I'm sorry to hear you are still so "down" phisically. a che settimana sei btw? It's normal to feel crap for well over 12 weeks, me thinks.)

11 weeks, and still crap....
it is true that toddlerhood is exhausting too...
what have i done?????

11 weeks, and still crap....
it is true that toddlerhood is exhausting too...and 4plus is tiring too, no, non fanno altro che parlare....
what have i done?????

11 weeks, and still crap....
it is true that toddlerhood is exhausting too...and 4plus is tiring too, no, non fanno altro che parlare....
what have i done?????

11 weeks, and still crap....
it is true that toddlerhood is exhausting too...and 4plus is tiring too, no, non fanno altro che parlare....
what have i done?????

nononono, this was meant to discourage me, not YOU

facts:

1. eleven weeks, I was feeling pretty crap at 11 weeks especially with my sec pg, I think you have to hang in there for a little while and then I'm sure you'll feel more "human" again.

2. I was very worried at the beginning of my second pg, also because ds was still very small, but felt much better once I saw the baby in the 12 weeks scan.

3. toddlerhood. Yep, it's hard, but I'm just trying to convince myself not to even think about having a third child. Toddlerhood is tiring, but lovely isn't it? When they start to talk, when they give you cuddles... ... see? I'm getting brrody again

Try to get yourself "Il resto di niente" di Enzo Striano. What a fantastic read. It will keep your mind absorbed.
are you booked in for the scan?

lol yes, ds talks the whole time

hothell is it still 'only' 11 weeks? I was going to say to you.. hold on it gets so much better. I am 35 weeks and feel absolutely great. it's a doddle after the first 3 months methink!

I think I am going back. It's going to be hell but I cannot think of dh missing what is the best day of one's life. there's n0 way he'll be here for the birth as all doctors believe she'll be early (we'll see). mil will help I am sure and mum will be there after the birth. I am strong but I don't want to moan to dh who's taken so much s...t without a sigh.
builders didn't lie. loft is finished, is everything else that takes ages because there are always hidden problems - flooded extension under floor, terrible plaster under dreadful lining paper etc.
will get there.

franca go on give in to your broodiness. I love toddler years. what I am not too kin on is newborn.. maybe dd2 will make me change my mind.

thanks for the tip re the book franca, will get it before we go.

You brave woman . No, you are right, I don't think I would have wanted to give birth without dh.

No, I can't give in, it's just mere broodiness, maybe because the sun is shining an it feels like spring! I actually love babies, i do babies very well. Then my patience starts to thin out when they start to move around . And I don't feel young. And we live in a 2 bedroom flat. And the house hasn't sold yet. O fuck!!!!!!! .

Pippi I am sure whatever you decide to do will be the right thing.
Its not really Spring here yet grey and cloudy . Took dd for her controllo and she is above the media for height and peso!!
Franca have you decided that 2 will be the magic number for you ???
I would change your estate agent in the UK I cannot belive you have not had anybody even sniffing after your house.

I cannot believe it either rosa, the house is beautiful. Pricey, yes, maybe it just takes ages with pricey houses. Will have dh ring the estate agents again...

Yes 2 is the magic number. Or not??? Yes, it has to be so

It's sunny here!

OOh Franca I am getting broody again as well but not allowed. Plus when it is 11.25 and DS went to sleep 1 BLOODY HOUR AGO - makes me think to forget it, or at least wait til he is older and I can order him to his bedroom at a certain hour!
Rosa, any cake left or am I too late , all sounded very impressive

Cake has almost gone but if you let me know when you will be round then I will make another !!!!
Are you both still feeling Broody today ???

Broody? Everybody seems to be having babies at the moment and I'm so. I'm not allowed another either Gio. We should form the Italian branch of not-allowed-a-seconf-baby club and drink cocktails.

Franca, if you want to be put off, move to Monza and see how many schools and amenities there are (not) and the fact that to do any non exorbitant activity you'll have to hand your child over to the nuns/priests.

Pippi, you still here then? 35 weeks already, doesn't time fly. I think you're right going back, tempting as it must be to stay here. It's not as if your DH can jump into a car at very little notice, nor can you hold it in until the plane arrives.

Beautiful day here, spring has arrived. I'm sitting in a Berlusconi built "paradise" eating ice cream, my apricot tree has flowers on it and my washing is drying in the breeze. Ahhhhh

Oh well I can't join that club then ....
I can just see some blossom on a tree not that far from me so Spring is here then ! I hope we get a spring and it does not go to hot straight away.

Me too, I have mezze stagione clothes I haven't worn yet....

Are you pg Rosa?

Don't want to upset the broody bunch .....

Am and as I wanted to go for dinner with a yummy bottle of wine - have been hankering after it for over a year and restaurant called and said they have one in and are keeping it !