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francagoestohollywood · 07/11/2007 20:50

Welcome everyone

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Rosa · 28/11/2007 08:27

I am more of a sumo wrestler than a kick boxer !!
Duel names : Rebecca, Victoria ( fantastic name !!!)Matilda, Samantha,Emma,Daniela..really lots of them now boys I think are more difficult.

Brangelia thx for the link but at 209 Euro am nor sure...Any idea on what travel cot is in german as maybe I can have a look there.

francagoestohollywood · 28/11/2007 09:33

Matilda is very nice, better than Matilde imo, which is currently quite popular in Milan. And Emma, I like Emma a lot. What about Viola? I like viola. Not sure whether it'll work in English.
I feel rubbish once again. Are you packing rosa?
where's michymama gone?

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hotHELL · 28/11/2007 09:59

and where is ellbell? and pippi? maybe they have a ... life???????? shame on them. i havent seen ellbell on mumsnet for a while, is she in Italy?
why do you feel rubbish franca?
it is interesting what you say rosa about kids not playing at each others houses in venice but in the campi, we used to do the campanello thing. Here in London you cannot improvise and have to invite children a week in advance, a real pain, everybody is sooooo busy.
i feel good because i have a day to potter in peace.
I have ordered the piumini books franca reccomended and the cd with the canzone about cacca, cacca always goes down well with my ds.

Rosa · 28/11/2007 10:02

Why are you feeling rubbish again ?? the move or ill feeling ??

I like Viola as well - It would work in the Uk I think .

Haven't even thought about packing yet need to find the straps that mean I can put one case on the 'back' of another as I can only pull one and push the buggy and my limit is 23kg a bag for second flight so need 2 bags. This summer I put one bag inside another and it worked great but it was 28 kg going up and 2x23 kg coming back ( checked luggage straight through) But I could get 2 seats on E Jet for 1 seat on Ba so I took Easy Jet just means I have to get from Gatwick south to North with 2 cases and a buggy !!!

We also seem to have lost Ellbell ....

francagoestohollywood · 28/11/2007 10:02

yes, how dare they have a life?
I'm pottering around MN for another ten mins and then I should tidy up/de-clutter/make a roast/fare spesa... uffa!
I don't know, yesterday I felt like another stomach bug was coming to get me. I feel bloated. I have a stiif neck. I am, basically, quite boring.

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francagoestohollywood · 28/11/2007 10:04

would one or those big backpack work??
Yes, I might feel rubbish for the stress...

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Rosa · 28/11/2007 10:06

COuld be another bug in the making similar to your ds quick vomitino !
Life other than MN how terrible !! DD has a slight febbre today only 37.5 but its cold abd grey not a nice crisp day so dd and I are at home she is in her tunnel - when its unfolded it takes up the entire living room but she likes it. I should clean and tidy ma non ho vogliamade a casserole yesterday so thats lunch today

hotHELL · 28/11/2007 10:08

It may be a bug, we often have little bugs going, things that you can manage with, but still annoying. Since having kids I don't feel 100per cent.

francagoestohollywood · 28/11/2007 10:10

bello il tunnel!!!

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francagoestohollywood · 28/11/2007 10:10

ELLBELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Rosa · 28/11/2007 10:13

I wanted to buy a house that folds up into nothing as well but dh said NO !!!
I have also had more bugs than ever since having dd. just waiting for this cold now
Gotta go she needs amusing

francagoestohollywood · 28/11/2007 10:19

have to go as well...

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hotHELL · 28/11/2007 10:20

a piu tardi!

Brangelina · 28/11/2007 16:15

Gosh you lot all get up early!

Rosa - are you going back on your own for Christmas or is your DH going too?

Rosa · 28/11/2007 16:42

DH is following us 2 weeks later and staying for 2 weeks and then we all come back together... have so much to do before we go ....

PippiCalzelunghe · 29/11/2007 11:27

'morning.

help: how to deal with a child that refuses to go to sleep in her bed? (again I know.) yesterday she climbed out of the cot (had to turn the bed as she was coming out) and threw herself off. is it best to leave her go to sleep in our for a few days or will we make it worse? how to stop her for getting out?

I might be finishing work really soon.

how are you all?

francagoestohollywood · 29/11/2007 11:54

how old is she exactly again?
I don't know really. Would buying a toddler's bed help, do you think? what time does she go to bed? Is she tired enough do you think? does she wake up during the night? I went through a stage of going to sleep with my mum in my parents' bed and then my dad would take me in my room while asleep. I was 5 or 6, I think. And going through an anxiety stage, if I remember well.

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hotHELL · 29/11/2007 12:20

Is she already climbing out of her cot? If yes, you have to take the side off, no? otherwise she can fall and hurt herself. I think if you let her fall asleep in your bed you start to build a rod for your own back. She is almost 2 and a half no? I would buy her her own big girl bed (and hide the cot away for your next baby....), make a big thing aobout it, how she is a big girl now and can sleep in a proper bed, blah, blah, she can choose her new quilt, blah, blah, when we did it for ds he tried to come out of his room for a week, if he did it 3 times we would give him a warning, threaten to shut the door and keep it shut. Took a week. Same thing in the morning, if he tried to join us at an unreasonable hour, take him back, saying softly it is time for bed and not talking too much. Again it took a week. Now sometimes he comes out of his room, but goes back pretty swiftly, if not I threaten shutting the door, and off he runs back. I am really against cosleeping, i need my time with my partner. Once he started sleeping in his own bed, ds became in a way also more mature, entertaining himself in the morning, playing more by himself, a stronger sense of his identity. None of this cosleeping business in our household I'm afraid.

hotHELL · 29/11/2007 13:45

oh dear, have just read the other thread about the book by that Alfie guy about Unconditional love, obviously very strong views around on punishing children! I really don;t think that showing kids that there are consequences for their actions (example: you come out of bed again tonight, I will have to close the door) means that you are not loving them unconditionally, you are just showing them that you do not like the behaviour. Otherwise how the hell do you establish boundaries. Quite curious what you lot think.
By the way Pippi if ds was doing this becasue of any particular anxiety issue of course i would have him in my bed with me, but otherwise no.

francagoestohollywood · 29/11/2007 14:07

Yes, I'd make a big fuss of buying her a big girl's bed. they sell pink toddler's bed at argos (I've linked to it somewhere in this thread). Ds has one in blue and is still sleeping in it.
I think it very much depends on how Pippi feels about her bed. Dh and I quite like to have it to ourselves... (for reading undisturbed more than anything else).
Get her a new bed. Invent a ritual set of cuddles. ds and I have: carezza-coccola (another carezza), vizi (una grattatina sul collo) - bacino - carezza -nasonaso - guanciaguancia - tickle tickle da questa parte (grattatina su braccio) - tickle tickle da questa'altra parte e manina. It takes 40 secs to do and he knows that after that it's time to sleep...

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Brangelina · 29/11/2007 14:57

Where are you all??!!?? Are you all out doing meaningful things? I know Franca has packing to do so she's excused but the rest of you? You can't all be Xmas shopping, it's only November!

Pippi, I have the same problem, only DD just threatens to climb out and hasn't carried it through so far. I'm not getting a toddler bed until she's fully trained at nights (she still wees occasionally) and I don't really want her in my bed in the middle of the night. Mornings are OK, it would even save me from getting up when she calls, but any earlier it would do my head in. She takes up so much space for such a little thing, and what with DP sticking his big bum on my side, plus my huge Persian cat deciding he wants a piece of the action, I end up sleeping in 1 cm of the bed. Or at least trying to sleep...

Bought my ticket to go to England at Xmas, yippee! Am not telling DP until the last minute. Well, not right now anyway. Git.

hotHELL · 29/11/2007 16:37

ikea also has very nice beds, bunk beds too, in case you need extra bed for her friends to sleep in.

francagoestohollywood · 29/11/2007 16:45

don't get me started on Ikea though (I actually like ikea a lot, but never find what I've set my heart on). The beds I wanted to buy for the dc in Milan were all discontinued. . I ended up buying two single beds with three drawers each.
I'm here. I've been in a foul mood all the day for having had an argument with ds.

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PippiCalzelunghe · 29/11/2007 17:04

I am with yuou with co-sleeping... a big no no in the pippi household too, except for special occasions.

I am not sure if it's because she got used to sleep in the same room with nonna when we were in italy but she has been in the bed without sides for a long time. now first time she woke up in the night and kept coming out crying till we turn it into a cot. second night she started from the beginning and went absolute insane when DH turned the bed again. we where downstairs when we heard the bang and off she was. vert scary actually.

I am for your approach hothell, was DS really desperate during that week when you where closing the door? she was. she's so careful normall and if she threw herself out is because she was absolutely insane. must do something as well for the morning as I do not want her to start coming in at 4.

I saw a similar thread a while ago, I also agree that DD does not think I don't love her but that I don;t like that behaviour.

Rosa · 29/11/2007 17:24

Brangelina when you coming up to the UK so Dp not going as well or have you got tickets for all of you ??
Franca how you feeling as yesterday you were felling rubbish.
Have noted comments re bed you know my concerns about her Uk cot but not concerned too much about her Italian one as it converts into a bed all be it little. DD Only comes in our bed when she is ill. E.g this week had nasty cold woke at 3am totally blocked and fed up so she came in for a while until she was all sleepy again and then she went back in her cot- I think she prefers it as well but she has a 6th sense she tends to know when dh is out at work as she wakes up and ends up with me !
Yep I went shopping and came back and dh had washed kitchen and bathroom floor !!!!So am going shopping more regularly now !

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