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francagoestohollywood · 07/11/2007 20:50

Welcome everyone

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hotHELL · 15/11/2007 15:18

I think parents in the Uk worry about everything to do with parenting.
Maybe franca renting your house out can be a link iwth the UK in case you decide to return...
Finished my short stories, any suggestions for a voracious reader?

Rosa · 15/11/2007 15:20

Just seen you on that thread as well Brang. I think its paranoia about things that are different. I am a bit about cars and traffic as dd is obviously not used to them ok so she has to walk a manina here due to the canals etc but she goes nuts when she sees buses and cars and tries to get out of buggy !
Must go and make some noise dd has been asleep over 2 hrs she will never sleep tonight and dh has gone shopping well I went yesterday and he has to bring the cucina home I bought .I left it in the car too bulky to carry !!! We only have a small flat but dd is well into cooking and I decided that babbo natale should do something about it..... we found a wooden spoon in the bed last night

Brangelina · 15/11/2007 15:29

We bought a kitchen for DD too last Christmas, she does love it but not as much as her male cousin and the little boy that lives downstairs. Even in her nursery the boys hog the kitchen, as well as the ironing board (DD doesn't know what an ironing board is poor lamb).

Yes I suppose it's paranoia about things that are different. It's the same here, only for different things (non scoprire la pancia/colpi d'aria, is the oil extra vergine/the pasta scotta etc.)

You lot are very good at reading such a lot, I used to read a book a day until DD was born, then alas I discovered Mnet and haven't really picked up a book since. I still have the last 3 Camilleri to get through. I bought them with the best intentions but somehow still haven't got round to picking them up.

PippiCalzelunghe · 15/11/2007 15:52

LOL at (non scoprire la pancia/colpi d'aria, is the oil extra vergine/the pasta scotta etc.) so so so bloody true, plus of course 'non camminare scalzo/a' 'metti la felpa/vestaglia appena alzata' plus my mum was shocked when MIL let DD dip her fonger in butter ONCE!!

yes I found english paranoid about balconies and balconies glass doors : each hotel of every holiday I went that was catered for brits had those stickers on the glass door to prevent people to walk through them. WTF???

francagoestohollywood · 15/11/2007 16:07

I'm a firm believer in colpi d'aria. Freddo alla pancia fa venire la diarrea .
yes, I'm now convinced this house will ever ever sell. I hate the UK housing market. Do you think I should paint the walls magnolia? why noone wants my house? bugger bugger I feel like crying.
Bella la cucina rosa, your dd will love it!

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francagoestohollywood · 15/11/2007 16:12

I love to walk holding the dc per la manina. It's so sweet and lovely

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PippiCalzelunghe · 15/11/2007 17:05

I love the manina business too. I think freddo alla pancia after a meal 'blocca la digestione' and you throw up. it does happen to me and dd.

How can they not want your house? Ah possibly because there's have no carpet! Seriously I think they're silly. You need an italian buyer.

hotHELL · 15/11/2007 17:07

It will probably sell in the summer no? E' una palla, se vedi there are other threads in property about people moaning that their houses are not budging, I wouldn't take it personally. I LLLLove your house! Sto facendo la pasta e ceci della mamma di Pippi, buona. Dp and ds are wandering the streets for a bit of fresh air.

PippiCalzelunghe · 15/11/2007 17:08

also i firmly believe that the housing market stops in the winter especially before xmas. people have got other priorities and have got no time to sell and buy. They'll all start looking after jan with the plan of moving before/during the summer. You'll see. also the market is slow, I see houses here thay stay with the sale sign for ages while vefore it was gone after a week.

hotHELL · 15/11/2007 17:08

Is the house the right price for the street, or are you trying to break the glass ceiling? (sarah beany talking here..)

PippiCalzelunghe · 15/11/2007 17:11

Misa che la faccio anch'io la pasta e ceci. buona idea hothell. ah mamma has given me the recipe for peperonata which I made yesterday. squisita. put peppers, a can of tinned tomatoes, oliveoil, salt and pepper and chilli if you like on a wok/padella, tutto a freddo. put the lid and cook on a low/medium heat til they are soft. easy peasy and delicious.

PippiCalzelunghe · 15/11/2007 17:13

hothell would you need to move when second DC arrives? have you always lived there?

francagoestohollywood · 15/11/2007 17:17

Not sure about this glass ceiling thingy. Maybe. Maybe the estate agents was overenthusiastic. My neighbour sold the house next door to ours in November... (2 yrs ago). But will it sell after xmas with no furniture in? I mean in Italy it's normal going to see houses with no furniture and buying them, but here? fdsghjigsdjl;kgfkjfgfnbn cvfb I'm exploding.
I love peperonata. The children have made the biggest mess ever. They are playing "andiamo al ballo" cindarella's style. they played with my (fake) jewellery. they took downstairs all dd's cookery things. they wrote invitiations for the ball. I'm glad they are playing nicely. But I KNOW they won't tidy up...

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PippiCalzelunghe · 15/11/2007 17:26

estate agents should tell you if they are overenthusiastic. mine did. she said she was going to put it 30K over and 'see how it goes' (she/we did not think it would go).

the flat I bought was unfurnished when I went to see it and IMO it's easier to look and to imagine it yours. this house was half empty as well. I reckon it's better empty, but then again I am italian. DH, being english, believes it's better furnished. He's never right anyway!

You should make them tidy up! (rottermeier emoticon) DD has learnt from childminder and since then I make a point of her tidying up 95% of the time either on the tune of bIg Cook Little Cook: 'can we play?' 'no it's time to clean and put away' (sad I know) or by going in time out if she doesn't! sorry but it's a habit she must get otherwise all I do is cleaning after her.

francagoestohollywood · 15/11/2007 17:44

I always make them tidy up, but sometimes it's more tiring than the actual tidy up. dd is pretty good. ds is another kettle of fish. Today I told him no tidy up no tv after dinner, he helped when I threatened to hide his dressing up. I'm now exhausted.

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PippiCalzelunghe · 15/11/2007 17:55

oh I agree it is so so stressful and takes double the time than doing it yourself. I always have to threaten her ('a letto senza storia') and all but hey... I thought my mum was our slave and I am not going to go that way!

francagoestohollywood · 15/11/2007 18:00

yes, my mum as well. But today I reacted very badly, and now feel guilty. And I bought free range posh trout for them tonight, which I know won't go down as well as I hope, and need to face it with nerves of steel.

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PippiCalzelunghe · 15/11/2007 18:03

Don't. I didn't react impeccably either yesterday when DD was refusing to go to bed and crying every 5 min and calling to go to the toilet. It is hard isn't it at times and it's impossible to be always level headed. Even DH, who really is a master on that, lost it a boit the other day as she is really testing us now. How does DH react/comment when you do loose it a bit?

PippiCalzelunghe · 15/11/2007 18:05

I gave dd prawns and sole yesterday. she divored the prawns, not so keen on the spinach and sole. 10 hours later she did finish them though... well almost...

hotHELL · 15/11/2007 19:09

Anch'io minacccio and do time out if he doesn't listen. (oh dearm the mumsnet police will be after me now...chucking lenticchie at me). Soemthing we did when ds didn;'t want to stay in bed and kept finding excuses to get our attention, was to give him one warning and tell him if he did nt stay quietly in his bed, I would close his door, and would hold it for 2 or 3 mins if he didnt stay put and tried to get out. I am a real meany.

hotHELL · 15/11/2007 19:10

These days we only have to mention shutting the dooor that he runs back to bed. We let him take the piss at least once per night, so he feels he is winning to. Exhausting, innit?

francagoestohollywood · 15/11/2007 19:32

well dinner went down really well. They ate the whole trout (because I did it in the oven with lots of olives), tomatoes, carrot and ds also the cavolfiore romano and our noodles.
I think ds has a lot of anger at the moment. for various reasons. I mix a bit of time out in his bedroom and take away toys. but he tried to argue again cause he says: I'll be good if you give me back my duplo. ehm no, it's the other way round. dh tells me off if I raise my voice. he's calmer, and I think it works sometimes play bad cop good cop. only I'm nearly more or less alwayas the bad one .

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Rosa · 15/11/2007 19:45

mmmm why is it that dd waves her finger and says mummy no ( meaning mummy says no !!) I think we have to be the bad cop we have them most of the time. Well done on the trout dd has gone off fish filleted I can get her to eat polpete di pesce and thats about it as for cavolo not a hope am hoping broccoli when the season starts here.
Maybe your ds is worried about going back to Milan and finding new friends etc its a change for him as well whereas dd is a bit younger and more easily led ??

francagoestohollywood · 15/11/2007 19:50

yes, he is worried about moving to Milan/leaving his friends/making new ones etc. he is also quick tempered (like me ) and stubborn. And is still suffering - I believe - from the "competition" there seems to be between boys his age. Dd has a totally different temper, she likes to please (which isn't necessarily that great) and she is indeed very sweetnatured. or at least I hope so!!!
Now, I want to know everything re those polpette di pesce.
rosa, you'll be ehre in less than a month!!!!

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hotHELL · 15/11/2007 19:54

I think the important in disciplining them is to have a united front in front of the kids and agree on the line to take (i know i make it sound like war making lol). I don;t shout but after lots of practicing we haver perfected the raised angry voice which should alert ds that he is overstepping boundaries. Ds hasnt been in time out for ages ,now that i think of it, but receives daily warnings that if he carries on with his behaviour he will have to go to the bedro0om, he has a sticker chart going for tyding, once he has 10 stickers he gets a magazine or something else that i was going to buy him anyway. Seems to work. To be honest I don't understand how parents cope without some sort of punishing them, you sort of become their slaves and friends begin to avoid you.

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