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The Breakfast Club

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LilyLangtrey · 11/10/2020 12:44

Good afternoon, Clunkers!

Welcome to the Breakfast Club where the kettle is permanently on, the drinks flow and the snacks are both self-replenishing and calorie-free.

We start each day with a look at history and a tribute to a brave or inspiring woman. Mostly though, we just chat randomly about current affairs, recipes, life in lockdown, literature, music and anything else that comes into our heads.

Veteran Clunkers welcome. Anyone else who wants to join in the chat - sense of humour essential! - welcome.

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thegcatsmother · 17/10/2020 23:04

Zombie We'll have to agree to differ on this. I would have been able to teach my students to be chary of using images that might offend. I know we should have free speech, but in reality, unless, and until, such people choose to accept enlightenment values and assimilate, we need to handle with care iyswim.

MissSarahThane · 17/10/2020 23:07

Look at how much money they give us.

Which we gave them in the first place, being one of the few countries which gave more than we took. Where do they think EU money comes from?

thegcatsmother · 17/10/2020 23:12

We are fish poor here becuase the EU introduced the CFP. That meant the Brit fisherman were made to destroy their boats as a term of selling off their licences.

Off Cornwall, we only get 10% of the catch.

Waitrose fish counters are good, and we have a van that comes round weekly. I can order catch of the day on a Friday from the local food hub for the following week or a family fish box from Looe. Fish is not one of my favourite things though. I like mussels, some seafood, monkfish, salmon and trout, but most white fish leaves me cold, and I always, always, always, get a bone, even it's a fillet.

I don't like fish and chips either. Yeuch. Give me a lovely cone of calamaris with tartare sauce, or prawns with mayo or dill sauce, and I'm happy.

The fish counter in Carrefour where we lived in Belgium was lovely, but so pricey, ditto the massive fish lorry on the market on a Friday. 24€ per kg for cod.

thegcatsmother · 17/10/2020 23:13

@MissSarahThane

Look at how much money they give us.

Which we gave them in the first place, being one of the few countries which gave more than we took. Where do they think EU money comes from?

The magic money tree of course!!
ZombieFan · 17/10/2020 23:14

gcat I agree you probably could "teach my students to be chary of using images that might offend".

But yes we disagree in a friendly way about 'pausing' free speech until such times other people become enlightened.

ResplendentAutumn · 17/10/2020 23:22
  • I really enjoyed, remarkable creatures! Love Lyme Regis, and Charmouth.

Re the pill... Look at the Rotherham girls, so many still became pregnant didn't they.
Even with the pill available. I think it would benefit and have a reverse effect equally.

When young vulnerable women are targeted its hard to win.
I work with girls who could be vulnerable. They understand enough to have relationships but they are not equipped in any shape or form to have babies.

ResplendentAutumn · 17/10/2020 23:30

Re where the money comes from, I know!

Waitrose fish counter I'd say is probably the best supermarket fish counter? Aside from booths? I've never set foot in a booths but I imagine it would do fish well.

My df was the son of a fish monger. Growing up we had an excellent if pricey independent fish mongers he would splurge in once a month.
His fish dishes were supreme. But to be honest, I didn't listen closely enough on the fish tips.

Most people in the UK won't access the waitrose fish counter and we are not fish... Sophisticated here at all.
Hopefully that will change after we leave the Eu.

Maybe this is why Boris has been slightly distracted when it comes to covid because of all this in the background!
I do feel for boris Grin
Never in a million years would anyone have anticipated this crisis!

It's a fait accompli and in many ways covid is a good shield to discract people and let them get on with it.

thegcatsmother · 18/10/2020 00:20

@ZombieFan

gcat I agree you probably could "teach my students to be chary of using images that might offend".

But yes we disagree in a friendly way about 'pausing' free speech until such times other people become enlightened.

The problem is that Islam is 642 years behind Christianity, so currently going through the equivalent of the 1300s. What was Christendom doing then?
thegcatsmother · 18/10/2020 00:31

we are not fish... Sophisticated here at all. I don't know - Rick Stein, Sheekeys, Nathan Outlaw, and my db has a mate who is chef patron of a Cornish fish restaurant to name but a few. Mitch Tonks is another.

I think if fish is presented battered or breaded as we seem to eat it here, then that can be off putting. I've been happily buying scallops and sardine fillets for dh from the Food Hub and cooking them for him; and I buy and cook their fish pie mix. I cook a very good dish of mussels with cider and bacon, but I find the texture and bones of fish off putting.

I enjoy it in Portugal where you can get bakes of cream, potato and dried salt cod, and wonderful rice with shellfish and fish. I'm happy to eat lots of salmon in Denmark and Sweden (and the smoked variety anywhere). I've had good lobster and frites at a Loch Fyne restaurant; foolishly, we fed it to ds when we took him there whilst he was at university and he got a taste for it as well.

I think meat is easier to cook, and I was always a tad aghast at the tanks of lobsters that would appear in Carrefour just before Christmas, and they would pick them out and boil them on the spot.

ZombieFan · 18/10/2020 00:43

gcat
"The problem is that Islam is 642 years behind Christianity, so currently going through the equivalent of the 1300s. What was Christendom doing then?"

I completely agree but we can only deal with the world we have now.

thegcatsmother · 18/10/2020 01:05

Can the world afford to wait though?

1300-1400 was the aftermath of the crusades; the first Spanish Inquisition and the Western Schism (two popes). It took a while for sense to prevail. If Islam is going through its medieval period, then we have a while before the Enlightenment hits.

ZombieFan · 18/10/2020 02:19

Can the world afford to wait though?
I agree we cant afford to wait, it needs to be dealt with now. Not that I have a solution.

LilyLangtrey · 18/10/2020 05:23

Morning, Clunkers!

On this day in 1016, the Battle of Assandun took place. We can’t be sure where that would appear on maps today but we know it was in Essex so it might have been Ashdon. Wherever it was, it was the final nail for the Anglo Saxons because the army of Edmund Ironside was annihilated by the Vikings led by King Canute.

In 1674, Beau Nash was born in Swansea. That surprised me because Beau Nash was the dandy who made Bath the ‘in’ place. He wielded a lot of influence because when anyone arrived in Bath, he would meet them and decide whether they were suitable to join his select company of 500-600 fashionable people who were the centre of social life in Bath.

Charles Babbage, English mathematician, inventor and mechanical engineer who originated the concept of a programmable computer, died this day in 1871. He invented the first mechanical computer that eventually led to more complex designs (but we all know that Ada Lovelace wrote the first ever algorithm!)

In 1966, HMQ granted a royal pardon to Timothy Evans, wrongly convicted and hanged 16 years before for the murder of his wife and child. The real murderer was John Reginald Christie who had been hanged for mass murder in 1953.

In 2014, a flock of sheep was left feeling a bit woozy after accidentally munching on £4,000 worth of cannabis plants that had been dumped in their field at the edge of a farm in Merstham, Surrey. By the time the police arrived, much of the evidence had been, erm, eaten.

But today belongs to Hilary Bradshaw, who became the first woman to referee a rugby match when Bracknell played High Wycombe on this day in 1977. I can’t find any more information about Hilary - another woman buried in the dusty footnotes of history - but she is there and she broke the mould, so here’s to you, Hilary 🥂

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Gramgram · 18/10/2020 07:19

Morning Clunkers,

Thank you for the OTD, I do love this part of the breakfast club. Thank you also for all the parts of this thread as I have been feeling a bit low recently it has cheered me up, especially the car antics. I also enjoyed Strictly last night.

Off for a training walk now with my son. He is 36 today.

Take care.

lifestooshort123 · 18/10/2020 07:45

Morning all and yes, cheers to Hilary! My grandson plays for his local under-14s team and is obsessed with the game. I will pass this little nugget on to him later today when I drop him off at training. Thank you Lily for today's installment.

TracysShoulder · 18/10/2020 07:50

Morning Clunkers. Happy Sunday.

Thank you Zombie about the track and trace app. No more alerts so far so I'm going with the glitch theory.

The Sunday newspapers are ironed, the cushions are plumped, OTD print out on the tables, the kittens are by the fire with gCat and Dizzy watching over them and breakfast is rattling its way through from the kitchen.

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MoreHippoThanPenguin · 18/10/2020 08:19

Oh, what a lovely breakfast, thank you Tracy. I will have some of that yoghurt and maybe if the butlers could make me some herbal tea?

Thank you for the OTD Lily. I love the Viking stories. I was looking at an old building at the coast in Suffolk and it has an inscription along the lines “walk in with God and remain with God” in some ancient form of Nordic/Swedish. I could read and understand it, the owners had never thought about it.

Also, did you all know that the word “bairn” which they use for child in the north is almost identical to the Swedish word “barn” which also means child? Smile

I will have my breakfast and then read the papers in the library quickly before heading off. LittleBoyHippo is playing a football fixture this morning.

TheReturnOfGavlar · 18/10/2020 08:20

Morning all, I could polish that off this morning Traceys, apart from the baked beans which have no place on a full English breakfast plate at Gavlar Hall.

My nephew lives for rugby, played for the County's u18 squad until he left for Uni. He is a good lad and the discipline of sport has been very good for him. Now playing at Uni (well I don't actually know if he is due to COVID but you get the idea).

I am very disappointed to see that John Sentamu has not been awarded a life peerage - what a silly place to start thinning down the house if this is what it is.

He is a good man, I have met him a number of times. He was very good for York and the wider Yawkshire. He appeared to be a man without an agenda which is refreshing as I don't think that about the majority of this country's senior clergy.

I struggle with members of the senior clergy exerting their influence politically in their unelected daily roles generally and consider it a failing of the system.

I can see this being blamed on an administrative delay or something equally ridiculous. According to the Times he was asked to confirm his suitability and willingness to accept in late June. Well, we know he is eminently suitable. I gather that 'he missed out in this round', inexcusable.

Extremely poorly and insensitively handled imo.

MoreHippoThanPenguin · 18/10/2020 08:30

Can I ask you with children or relatives playing rugby, what is the injury rate? Our son is quite small and I worry a lot about that. My (English) husband tells me not to worry, but I kind of do anyway...

TracysShoulder · 18/10/2020 08:30

Thank you Lily. Beau Nash piqued my interest and I googled him. He was a busy man. This from the Jane Austen centre:

He wore his gold-laced clothes on the occasion, and looked so fine that, standing by chance in the middle of the dancers, he was taken by many at a distance for a gilt garland.

janeausten.co.uk/blogs/society-figures/richard-beau-nash-the-original-beau

TheReturnOfGavlar · 18/10/2020 08:36

Nothing significant here Hippo. It's a good sport with strict rules and good referees in my experience ...... although I acknowledge it looks like a good fight at times if you don't understand the rules.

MoreHippoThanPenguin · 18/10/2020 08:40

Thank you Gavlar. I will try to worry less. He plays it at school and he does love it. I have just always found it a bit scary.

TracysShoulder · 18/10/2020 08:42

Wiki snippet for John Sentamu with a couple of BC corrections Grin

In October 2007 Sentamu was awarded the "Yawkshireman of the Year" title by the Black Sheep Brewery. In his acceptance speech he praised the welcome he had received from the people of Yawkshire and made reference to the "African-Yawkshire DNA connection", joking that perhaps his parents had this in mind when they gave him the name "Mugabi", which, spelled backwards, is "Ibagum" ("ee-by-gum", a stock phrase popularly supposed to be used to express shock or disbelief in northern England

TracysShoulder · 18/10/2020 08:44

Gavlar, has your pain receded? I hope so.

TheReturnOfGavlar · 18/10/2020 08:48

Yes, I'm feeling better thank you Tracys.

From the Times

As a young man, Sentamu was beaten up by Idi Amin’s thugs in his native Uganda and, as archbishop, refused to wear a dog collar in protest at Robert Mugabe’s crimes against humanity in Zimbabwe. He advised the Stephen Lawrence inquiry and chaired the review into the murder of Damilola Taylor, a 10 year-old schoolboy. On June 7, the day of his farewell service, Black Lives Matter protesters toppled the statue of the Bristol slave trader Edward Colston.

It took until June 26 for No 10 to tell Sentamu that he was in line for a peerage, asking him to confirm his suitability and willingness to accept. But instead of a formal letter confirming that his name would be among the 36 appointments on July 31, he received a phone message through intermediaries, telling him he had missed out and would have to wait until the next round.

What an absolute disgrace.