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More Harry Potter- Does anyone else think Snapes a goodie?

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imnot27 · 28/09/2006 11:22

Having re-read The Half Blood Prince last week, I think he is on the right side, but no-one agrees with me! Anyone else sad enough to have an opinion on this?

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alexsmum · 28/09/2006 13:35

tortoiseshell-the book had originally belonged to eileen prince -snapes mum

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 28/09/2006 13:35

we bough book 6 at midnight

dp took dd to the special children's party at sainsbury's and got a book and some promotional stuff for kids

she was 6 days old

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 28/09/2006 13:36

um...he says he's the half-blood prince

i don't think snape would lie, do you?

alexsmum · 28/09/2006 13:36

she then maried snapes dad-a muggle-making snape half blood

saltire · 28/09/2006 13:40

Ok, have finally got time to join this thread - i love Harry potter
In answer to the OP, i also think Snape is good, and killed Dumbledore on his orders.
I also think he did it because Dumbledore also wanted to protect Malfoy Junior, who is, deep down (very deep down) not a bad person.
I wonder though what will happen to malfoy once Voldemort discovers he didn't kill Dumbeldore? He (Malfoy) was acting on Voldemorts orders after he had ( so i believe) threatned his mother..
As for the Horcruxes, i think the locket they found in Grimmauld Place (order of the Phoenix book) is a Horcrux,and is the one found by Sirius brother.
As for the question about the invisibility cloak, well IIRC there is a spell which makes someone invisible of sorts - its called the Disillusionment Charm - Moody uses it on Harry when they rescue him from the Durselys in book 5. So whoever was with Dumbeldore when he had the cloak couldn't/wouldn't use that charm! Does that make sense?
I think that the person who dies is Lupin- even though he is one of my fave in the books, i think he is going to die.

fridascruffs · 28/09/2006 13:47

well harry definitely dies- i read an interview with jk a while back that made it pretty obvious (she said something about understanding why Agatha Christie killed off poirot so no-one could use the character after she, christie, died. And JK though it was a good idea.

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 28/09/2006 13:52

i think there will be several deaths

and several characters compltely transformed

i think it so incredible though...to have this great arc-ing idea and then to actually write it out, book by book...what an achievement.

expatinscotland · 28/09/2006 14:02

If I were JK, I'd snuff Harry, too. Judging from the completely nonsensical 'rumours' out there, one can only imagine what some dunce would do to her character if she doesn't kill him off.

People nowadays just can't seem to let stuff lie, enjoy it for what it is and move on.

cupcakes · 28/09/2006 14:09

ok - if you think that Dumbledore has a horcrux surely it must be Fawkes? And who was the other phoenix who appeared at Dumbledore's funeral? If you ask me it was Dumbledore - as an animagus. Hence he is not dead, just able to rejuvinate.
And if I'm wrong I shall be most put out!

ProfessorGrammaticus · 28/09/2006 14:09

But harry can't die - it's a children's book!

CheesyFeet · 28/09/2006 14:09

Yes I would actually like to see Harry die - if only to stop the possibility of other people writing "what happened next".

So do you think JK will do something else when she has finished with Harry et al?

DumbledoresGirl · 28/09/2006 14:10

Agree wholeheartedly Expat. I don't want Harry to die (surely Voldemort can't win out? that would be so unethical and actually a bit of a pathetic ending given he is so much stronger than Harry) but, if I were JKR, I would loathe the idea of some mediocre so-and-so taking my character and writing some ludicrous Mills and Boon story about him and Ginny.

CheesyFeet · 28/09/2006 14:12

I think Good Will Win but Harry will die in the process

DumbledoresGirl · 28/09/2006 14:15

Let's face it, as he stands at the moment, Harry is at much use against Voldemort as you or I (I could at least run the guy over in my car - Harry doesn't even drive - and he is good at catching snitches, not shooting bludgers at people's heads so he couldn't get rid of V that wy either). So, either Snape is going to become his mentor (obviously not going to happen until near the very end) or else Dumbledore's influence, knowledge and power must still be at Harry's disposal somewhere, somehow.

How else could the plot proceed? Harry is useless by himself. He needs some vestige of all that Dumbledore stood for to face up to Voldemort. Your idea about the phoenix would make sense Cupcakes.

cupcakes · 28/09/2006 14:17

Thank you DG.
I was anxious that my overwhleming insight had been ignored.

expatinscotland · 28/09/2006 14:19

No, I think JK is a clever woman. She'll kick back and enjoy a very, very nice 'retirement'.

Good on her!

All those 'critics' are just jealous.

They wish they'd have thought of that.

DumbledoresGirl · 28/09/2006 14:20

I have read that JKR has written some adult novels - no not that sort! - and was going to publish them after the Harry series is over.

CheesyFeet · 28/09/2006 14:21

Good on her indeed

I wish I had thought of it

tortoiseshell · 28/09/2006 14:40

Am watching Lord of the Rings atm - so much of HP is taken from there, it should be possible to work out the ending from that!

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 28/09/2006 15:24

i think lupin will be harry's mentor

harry will die

Dumbledore is DEAD

expatinscotland · 28/09/2006 15:30

No doubt, tortoise.

Wish I'd have thought of that.

LOTR, too.

Not like that fella died in the poor house.

cupcakes · 28/09/2006 15:51

I didn't know LOTR till I saw the films and I immediately thought 'it's Star Wars!' .
Dumbledore is Obi Wan is Gandalf.
Either he is stronger through death ("if you strike me down I will become stronger than you can possibly imagine") or he will be "reborn" in a stronger more powerful identity.
And Harry is Luke/Frodo.

expatinscotland · 28/09/2006 15:54

They're all LOTR rip offs.

LOTR is a rip off of the classic hero story. Of course, Tolkein was a scholar of Old and Middle English and a professor.

He was familiar with all these tales, naturally.

These stories are as old as language itself, probably, and have an equally as timeless appeal.

They renew faith in humanities good qualities and feed an innate desire for fantasy and escape, of course.

DumbledoresGirl · 28/09/2006 15:57

Harry Potter is written in the classic hero on quest mould. That is why he should survive.

cupcakes · 28/09/2006 15:59

Harry will survive after a battle on Endor and an arduous climb up a volcano. Evil will be defeated.