More Harry Potter- Does anyone else think Snapes a goodie?

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Having re-read The Half Blood Prince last week, I think he is on the right side, but no-one agrees with me! Anyone else sad enough to have an opinion on this?

a thought just occured to me...shes not going to turn dd into V's dad is she??please no!

no - in halfblood prince, Harry goes into the Pensieve with DD and sees V's mum, uncle and grandad, and his dad was the muggle from next door that the mad uncle hexxed, andthen the mad mum gave him a love potion to make him fancy her.

now this is where we need a cionfused emoticon!!

BTW, if u didn't see my other thread, W.O.M.B.A.T.S are in

w.o.m.b.a.t.s.??

have worked something out

dd is dead

ok let me explain why

harry is pure. completely pure.

I think, when dd drinks the liquid, this gives v an in to his soul. It allows v to control dd, or to access his thoughs, or something.

Snape has made an unbreakable vow to dd that in such circumstances he will kill him. Which is why dd wants snape to be fetched on return t hogwarts. he does not want malfoy to kill him as this is a terrible thing.

Harry can, however, go after the horcruxes because he is pure of soul and blah, so is not affected in the same way

my theory.

COTCM, wombats were the exams hidden in the room of requirement on JKR's webpage

DD couldn't see Harry and Ron under the invisibility cloak but he's more observant than most and knew the cloak was in Harry's possession so it wouldn't have been too hard to reach the right conclusion. He'd deffo be the type to sense a presence, hear breathing and maybe even smell kids! Unlike Fudge or most of the good grown ups in the book.

Also, why can't Snape have the defence against the dark arts job?

Didn't snape teach defence against dark arts in the last book? Dd told Harry no-one had stayed in the job for more than a yaer since V was refused the job. So maybe he didn't want to lose Snape and also snape is a total expert in potions. What if Dd was Snapes real dad?? Surely Dd wasn't celibate? There's never any talk of his family?

Dd has a brother - he's in a photo that Madeye shows Harry when they're in Sirius' kitchen - so maybe he'll pitch up in next book.

I read an interview with JKR in which she said there were no new characters we didn't already know about to be introduced in Book 7. But I am curious and am now off to read the bit where Moody shows Harry the photo!

I got a grade 2 - Exceeds Expectations. No kidding - I guessed the lot!

it is deffo odd that snape got the DADA job not Slughorn.

Presume that all this was part of the plan.

I just do not think dd is a fool who did not see all this coming.

hope bk 7 is loooooong

Ooh yes I hope book 7 goes on forever and ever...

Ok, I have mnetioned this before but I now want to have my idea fully registered so that I cna claim the prize when I am shown to have guessed the truth about Snape.

My theory is this: Snape is Harry's father. If this were the case, it would explain how Dumbledore cna be so sure of Snape's loyalty to the Order of the Phoenix and Harry in particular. I don't go with the idea that Snape made an unbreakable vow with Dumbledore. That is too simplistic a plot-line. Snape is bound to Harry by a much deeper tie, that of being his father. It would also explain why Dumbledore said Snape was so upset when he found out who Voldemort took to mean was the chosen one in the prophecy he overheard. Of course Snape wouldn't want Voldemort trying to kill his own son!

The clues I think point to Snape being Harry's father are these:

1. When Harry fell into the pensieve and saw Snape's thoughts, he was horrified that his supposed father, James, was such a prat. Later, Sirius and Lupin excused him by saying he was only 15, but Harry retorted that he was 15 and implied that he wouldn't behave in this prattish manner. So he is not so like his "father" after all.
2. Snape clearly had a thing for Lily.
3. Lily clearly thought James was a berk and it is not clear to harry how she could ever fall in love with James.
4. The anger Snape showed towards Harry when he foudn him in the pensieve seemed disproportionate to the events Harry had witnessed. It was as if Snape was scared that Harry was going to put 2 and 2 together about something else, ie Snape and Lily's relationship. Yes Snape was being humiliated, but the overriding impression in Harry's mind was not that Snape was being humiliated (he actually said later he felt sorry for Snape) but that james was being such a prat. Why didn't Snape just say then, "See what a prat your father was?" I think he was scared and didn't want Harry delving too deeply.

How come Harry looks like James then? Well, in a way, that side of the story has been done to death - it is mentioned far too often. Even harry gets bored hearing how much he looks like James. But this is a magical world. What is to prevent someone, eiher Lily or Dumbledore, or Snape, casting some spell over Harry to make him look like James to stop the rumour that he is actually Snape's son?

Why would Lily want to do this? Why marry James? I not sure about this although it is clear that she was always on the good side and Snape dabbled with the Dark Arts so maybe she married James to protect her son. Snape's attitude to Harry is partly fueled by his inability to speak the truth to him and tell him that he is actually his father. It must be really galling to see Harry worship James and despise Snape when in fact he should be doing the reverse.

I think I have more to say on this subject, but I need to let my children on the computer now. What does anyone think of my theory?

good theory BUT its a bit long winded and complicated for what is, after all, a childrens book.

You have definatly got me thinking though. Not sure about the magic to make you look like someone else but there is a spell soemwhere that i think Luna can do where she can change her nose/hair etc

Have started re reading from the beginning with a whole new view on things!!

dumbledoresgirl-he is what i think of your theory-]hmm]

there is NO WAY that snape is harry's father!!! no way!!!!!!

No way at all, I just couldn't have it.

I'll be so annoyed if he is.

nah, I think its more likely that Dd had it away with Snapes mum

Oh

Well, however much you dislike it, can I pleas register the theory as MINE in case I am right?

I meant to say earlier that I thought it is a known fact that Lily is going to have a part to play in the plot of Book 7. What better than that she had it away with Snape and magically changed Harry's appearance?

oh and as for the plot being a bit complicated for children, I thought the exact opposite! Surely there are loads of children who could identify with the fact that their apparent father is not their biological father? I thought it was suggested recently that 25% of children are wrong about who their real father is? It would by JKR being at her most topical!

Oh OK, I know when I am on to a loser with you guys....

I am so curious to reread 5 and 6 now....esp after what DDG posted.
Just don't have the books to hand! It is driving me a bit mad now.

"Well, however much you dislike it, can I pleas register the theory as MINE in case I am right? "

hmmm

in the nicest possible way, DDG-absolutely, yes you can, of course. . All yours.

I just think...no...

not Harrys father (surely???), but definitely a goodie.
Snape killing Dumbledore was all part of Dumbledore's master plan to put Snape next to Voldemort as Voldemort's most trusted lieutenant...so when the time comes for Harry to kill Voldemort, Snape will be there to help him. Otherwise Harry couldnt manage on his own.

think theres definitely something more thats relevant in the Snape, Lily, James love triangle, but surely Snape hates harry too much to be his dad.

As for complicated kiddies books, theres northern lights series and loads of other fantasy books that are sophisticated.

Dd and Snapes mum?? rosylily (its me dew in halloween disguise!! )

OMG, I love, love, love this thread! Harry rocks. I think Snape is a goody. Definitely.

Does anyone think Sirius might come back? I seem to remember thinking at the time his death was a bit ambigious. Harry needs someone. I must re-read the last book NOW!