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More Harry Potter- Does anyone else think Snapes a goodie?

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imnot27 · 28/09/2006 11:22

Having re-read The Half Blood Prince last week, I think he is on the right side, but no-one agrees with me! Anyone else sad enough to have an opinion on this?

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motherinferior · 28/09/2006 16:42

Rowling manages very well to do a kind of standard-fantasy-with-bits-in which is not exactly challenging, though, which is precisely why she is so successful. You're not going to get the kind of Big Thoughts you get in Pullman, or in Susan Cooper (who wrote a very interesting children's fantasy series called The Dark Is Rising) or some of Diana Wynne Jones stuff.

Pruni · 28/09/2006 16:43

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Alibaldi · 28/09/2006 16:44

MI The Dark is Rising is a wonderful series of books, don't shoot me guys but in some ways it's far better written than HP.

expatinscotland · 28/09/2006 16:44

Lowest common denominator and all that stuff . . .

I mean, look at all those romance novels. That's a serious industry, folks! The sound of bodices ripping is right up there w/the sound of the till, rolling away .

DumbledoresGirl · 28/09/2006 16:45

If there has to be a significant death in the lst book (and let's face it, there has to be!) then my money is on Snape. I too think he will die presumably at Voldemort's hands doing something like saving Harry, or at least doing something that reveals his true loyalty to the Order of the Phoenix.

Nice idea that he might be Harry's father but surely completely impossible as Harry is the spitting image of James POtter. Or is that where Lily's skill at charms came in? Did she have an affair with Snape and charm the resulting love child (ie Harry) to look like James so her infidelity would not be discovered?

saltire · 28/09/2006 16:46

MB i have often wondered that about the teachers, but decided that if she mentioned every teacher in every class the books would be huge. After all Hermione studies things like Ancient runes and Muggle Studies, yet the teacher is never mentioned. I read on one website some comments (made mostly by youngsters) asking why it never mentions Harry and Co having showers/going to the loo etc! When i read it my initial reaction was WTF, just concentrate on the story!

Blandmum · 28/09/2006 16:46

Or my Fave, Ursula Le Guin

The potter books are just a good yarn. We ahve read them, and listen to them when we go on our summer holidays. So discussion of HP is a sunshine, been on the beach, had a few glasses of wine, type of thing in our house

MI, thany you for your concern

I'm going to France this weekend!

doggiesayswoof · 28/09/2006 16:48

'In fact, some of those books were so dire, death was a welcome reprieve from the tedium.'

Amen! But some of the punters took sooooo long to die too - just get on with it will ya?

Another reason I'm taking my hat off to JKR - no long deathbed speeches for her

Pruni · 28/09/2006 16:51

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DumbledoresGirl · 28/09/2006 16:52

I have tried Ursula Le Quin and Philip Pullman and wish I could see why they were ever published in the first place.

DumbledoresGirl · 28/09/2006 16:52

Guin

Blandmum · 28/09/2006 16:53

I fell in love with Ged. He was my first crush

I was about 11 at the time

alexsmum · 28/09/2006 16:53

harry is not a horcrux and he is the one-jk rowling says on her website that neville is not the one. i know in an interview she said in reply to a questiona bout waht harry does after book 7 " who says he will still be alive?" but that could just be a tease!

saltire · 28/09/2006 16:56

She's very good at avoiding answering questions, or saying things in such a way as to confuse people!

alexsmum · 28/09/2006 17:00

absolutely!

Bucketsofdinosaurs · 28/09/2006 17:06

If Neville were the one then he and Voldemort could maybe both kill each other at the end, saving Harry from doing something unforgiveable. That would be a significant death.

Any theories on Lily and Petunia's parentage - I'm trying to work out how Snape and Lily could be related but they'd have to be twins if they were in the same year at school. Or Petunia's a squib and that's why she hates magic? Or she fancied James? or went out with Snape?

alexsmum · 28/09/2006 17:13

have alook at some of the links i posted earlier. jkr has has debunked the theories of petunia being a squib, neville being the one, etc.

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 28/09/2006 17:20

pruni-you've jolted something in my memory about dumbledore being a baddie. there was something he did...or said, which made me but I can't remember what.

there's nothing for it but to read book 6 again, i suppose.

wow, that would be a good twist.

read somewhere that jkr intended the books as for adults...but kids liked them.

of course harry will die-look at what happened to frodo.

alexsmum · 28/09/2006 17:23

no way can dumbledore be a baddie!!!!!!!!!! blasphemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fridascruffs · 28/09/2006 17:24

did frodo die?!!

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 28/09/2006 17:24

maybe dd is a baddie...

and v is a goody

And it was all a dream...

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 28/09/2006 17:25

yes he did

right at the end

he gets on a big ship, just like Baldur

alexsmum · 28/09/2006 17:25

and harry wakes up in the shower?

Pruni · 28/09/2006 17:28

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alexsmum · 28/09/2006 17:36

try and remember what bit it wa sin?