Kirsty Allsopp says ditch university and have baby by 27

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www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/jun/02/kirstie-allsop-young-women-ditch-university-baby-by-27

I know it's different for everyone but I completely agree with this article.

For me having my son at 22 was the best thing I ever did. It made me a much stronger and more confident person, which then in turn has helped me in pursuing a career and building a life for us.
I think I would have found things a lot harder if I had built a career and a life to then have to sacrifice it in order to have a baby.

I also understand in some cases it isn't possible for people to have children before a certain age. But I guess what I'm saying is I see some sense in what Kirsty is saying

I love the thought of hitting 40 and being able to pick up where I left off

I hate to break it to you, but it's not going to happen. I work in executive search and see women with doctorates begging for entry-level positions they left behind when they stopped work to have kids.

No I don't doozie, I'm thinking specifically of a vocational degree course I used to teach on.

Just want to say that if your DCs are having their DCs in their 30s you are not too old to babysit!

or childmind.

I don't have strong feelings about Kirstie whatserface, or when a person should have kids, or whether they should go to university etc etc

but how up yet arse do you have to be, to start dishing out advice to general public about such things? What is she? I think she is not medical? I may be wrong, but i think she is a diy programme presenter?

Thesaurusgirl- you don't know what my previous career was nor do you know what path I am planning to take in future years so you can't really make such a broad statement like that to be honest...! And my future path doesn't require a degree. I get your point however as I've had family members and friends with top degrees unable to get jobs unfortunately.

I am glad I had children young like you OP.

Isn't this a bit like Mother Teresa advising us all not to have sex?

LRD It really wasn't what I needed to hear when I was going to them needing support and someone to sit with me and talk me through all the options, with all the pros and cons. My boyfriend could only see pros to keeping the baby, my parents wouldn't hear of it.

In the end it was actually Mumsnet that helped me to make my decision, and it's the best decision I ever made. My parents adore their granddaughter and have said they're proud of me for making my decision alone and dealing with any consequences that entailed. I think there'

But I find it really sad that anyone would have to be in that same position, - young and lost, full of hormones and having to ask strangers on a forum for advice on whether or not to keep her baby, because everyone around her is too consumed with their own wishes and biases to help her :(

What about careers that require degrees, or does KA want all fertile women to just not bother becoming doctors or teachers or lawyers?

I suppose if they become good little housewives they have more time to buy her twee shit.

Also, I suppose all those women who haven't found a significant other by 27, or heaven forbid, don't want children, are just not proper women.

Doozie that is another great thing about having DCs young is that the GP are still young enough to help out with childcare etc. if my DS has a child at 22 I'll be a GP at 44. I will still be young enough to enjoy babysitting my grandchildren (some people are just becoming mothers at that age!) but will have no obligation to and still free to carry on my career and life the same as I do now

Oh, that's awful. Good on you for coming through it.

She's just a more upmarket version of Katie Hopkins

This.

Every time I think I have come to terms with my infertility I read some garbage like this, and the nonsense that tennis player came out with the other day and I'm back to square one.

(though I realise that's my own issue and no one else's etc)

Shows = skirts

I did stuff in the following order
DC1
Uni
House
Marriage
DC2
DC3 all by the time I was 30.
It all worked out well for me but was definitely a busy 11 years.

Erm... I'm 45 and too damn BUSY to babysit grandchildren. That only works if every generation has babies at the same age. Anyway, Kirstie says we should be going to university at 50, so the babies' GPs will be doing Access courses rather than babysitting in the evening. Apparently.

So what if you don't like her clothes choices and the ankles God gave her no need to be so personal, I think she is a MNetter as well, said she was on a webchat.

I suppose if they become good little housewives they have more time to buy her twee shit.

. THIS.

The only thing I agree with Onefluover is that bankers can be wankers, and I would pity anyone chained to a kitchen sink by one.

And what about if all the men you met in your twenties were twats and you actually would like marriage and babies but you haven't met anyone to do that with???

I know I'm probably one of the exceptions but it has worked out for me despite people telling me it wouldn't.

Travelled, partied, had lots of fun with lots of men until I unexpectedly fell pregnant at 23. Already had a degree and a decent paying, very secure job so had benefits of maternity leave, able to go part time for a period while they were very little. Now-DH already had a house which I moved into. Had another dc, got married.

I'm now almost 30, both dc now in school full-time and am in a new job and onto our next house. Lovely life-style, nice car, all the trappings and the hard work is done for me really. It doesn't have to be one or the other.