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manky · 03/01/2002 22:08

Am nearly 37 and what with one thing and another have managed to put off learning to drive. I know life would be a lot easier if I learnt but still have a sick feeling in my stomach when I think about lessons or possibly going out on my own in the car with two children. Has anyone ever learnt to drive this late? Will this sick feeling go away? Five years ago I was in an accident while cycling where a lorry almost crushed me.Not surprisingly I'm very nervous when buses or trucks come near our car (that's just when I'm a passenger). Has anyone else been this nervous? Would hypnotherapy help?

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SueDonim · 04/01/2002 00:31

No personal experience, Manky, but my sister passed her test at the age of 48. Her children were grown up by then but she was still very nervous. Her husband has a disability and it was pretty vital she learnt to drive, otherwise their mobility would be extremely compromised. Her children were really supportive and now she drives all the way from Kent to Scotland to visit us!

Your worry about lorries etc is understandable but it's possible that learning to drive would give you a feeling of empowerment because you are in control of your vehicle. I'm sure if you explained your concerns, a decent driving school would go all-out to help you. Good luck!

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mhvp · 04/01/2002 14:12

MANKY I am the same nearly 39 and have always preferred a holiday to the expense of learning to drive. Now I would love to drive but am determined to give it a go this year. I wish I had done it when I was 16. I am going to make my child learn at 16. My father always put me off driving when I was younger because he had been in an accident. I think your confidence goes a little as well as you get older so learning young is much better.

mhvp · 04/01/2002 14:14

MANKY I am the same nearly 39 and have always preferred a holiday to the expense of learning to drive. Now I would love to drive but am determined to give it a go this year. I wish I had done it when I was 16. I am going to make my child learn at 16. My father always put me off driving when I was younger because he had been in an accident. I think your confidence goes a little as well as you get older so learning young is much better.

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TigerMoth1 · 04/01/2002 15:37

Mankey, your message really struck a chord with me.

I had to overcome severe nerves to learn to drive, and even now I wince when I'm in the passenger seat and a lorry comes close.

I do not think I have great hand to eye co-ordination or very quick reactions - a view endorsed by others, especially tennis partners! So I had to learn to drive very, very slowly to build my confidence. Driving for me was an acquired skill, not something I could do instinctively at all.

If you are like me, then can I advise you to go at your own pace, even if it is a snails pace. It will be no good anyone telling you you can do it to boost your confidence - you have to feel you can do it. For this you will need a very, very patient driving instructor. I went through a few of them - some were real horrors and tried to rush me. I then found a good one and then stuck with him.

Incidently, I heard along the way from a driving instructor friend that some driving schools (naming no names here!) are results-driven. They classify learner drivers into those who will easily pass the test first time and those who might not. Individual driving instructors also need to show they can get their pupils to pass, since this reflects well on their own performance record. There is the temptation, therefore, to concentrate their energies on their best pupils. Consequently you may find, as I did, that being classed as a 'driving thicko' you get passed around different instructors, you are generally messed about and lessons often get cancelled. Just a word of warning. If you can, get a driving instructor by personal recommendation.
(now waiting to be contradicted here by someone who is a driving instructor...)

More about driving instructors in a minute....

After three attempts and at least 100 lessons, I finally passed my test, when I was in my late twenties, but then did not drive for some years. Bad mistake! Had someone stuck me behind a driving wheel, I would have been useless. I had to get back on the road when I was 34 years old because I ran a market stall and my driver friend was moving away, so I needed to take over the wheels in order to continue. Coincidently, I happened to be pregnant at the time.

How well I know that sick feeling in the stomach, Manky! Here was I faced with an unfriendly car, pregnant and a business to run. My husband couldn't help me - he couldn't understand how I could be so afraid. To get back into the driving seat I had to set my targets extremely low.

I live in a built up area that I know well. I walked round a short circuit of four streets and studied the junctions (don't laugh!). Then I picked a really quiet time and drove round these four streets for 10 minutes. The next day I did the same - I had to force myself to do it. When I felt happy with this, I added another street to my circuit (sometimes going on foot first to raassure myself). As my circuit grew, I built up confidence, until I felt ok about driving round our local area, then further afield and finally on motorways (the speed really freaked me out at first so I took this step last). The process took me at least a year.

You may be asking why did I not have some booster driving lessons rather than doing it myself? well I did this and got an awful instructor who, 5 minutes into my first lesson with my hands visibly shaking, told me he couldn't believe how I could have forgotten so much and would need vast numbers of lessons with him in order to be safe. He might have been partly right, but he took away what little confidence I had.

I have now driven confidently for about six years. Yes, I have had the odd scrape and a small accident, but the same goes for lots of drivers out there! And I have done a huge amount of driving. I drive to and from work - over two hours a day on motorways, plus trips all over London and the countryside. I still get those nervous pangs, especially when I see a lorry looming behind me in the rear view mirror, but I find a bit of loud swearing helps no end! I also make a real point of keeping my distance. It really helps to give me confidence.

As I said earlier, I was pregnant when I attempted to get back in the driving seat. This was added stress and I nearly gave up. But a friend said to me 'just think how empowered you'll feel - won't that be a good thing to pass onto your children'. She was right.

Speaking personally, life is a lot easier knowing I can get in a car with my two children and drive away. It's a freedom I really value and I try not to take it for granted. Learning to drive confidently came at a really apt time for me, too. As a mother of a newborn I, of course, lost much of the freedom of choice I had as a childless person, but driving gave some of it back to me.

Manky, I wish you well. Driving is difficult for someone like me, but if I can do it anyone can!

PS I read somewhere that it's the more intelligent people who tend to have difficulty with driving - apparently they have quick imaginations and are more likely to see the possibility of accidents when they are on the road.

sis · 04/01/2002 17:00

Cheers TigerMoth1 that last sentence is the one I will carry with me as I nervously consider making the next car journey! Like yourself - I passed my test in my twenties after god-knows-how-many lessons and then did not drive for a few years and was really nervous when I eventually forced myself to drive a couple of miles! Again like yourself, I started driving a bit more when I was pregnant and still haven't ventured onto a motorway (ds is now 3 years old!)

So Manky, good luck with the driving and if I can drive enough to get from A to B then anyone can!!

Sweetie · 04/01/2002 19:31

I passed my driving test in August at the age of 35, the main motivation being the lack of child friendly public transport around here. For my first few lessons I was convinced that I would never, ever be able to drive properly - as others on this thread have mentioned, I too lack good hand-eye co-ordination (cannot play computer games at all). However, I stuck with it and passed my test at the second attempt. Being able to drive has been an absolute godsend - so much easier to take DS out to interesting places, and it has halved my journey to work time. Good luck!

robinw · 05/01/2002 05:55

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ks · 11/09/2002 11:22

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bundle · 11/09/2002 11:38

ks, sorry to hear you've been having a tough time. I learned with a 50-something Irish lady who basically taught me to gossip & drive at the same time. she never advertised, word of mouth put around that her pass rate was excellent (around 85% first-timers, like me
so I think the person who teaches you is key - also, I know if might sound a bit more complicated but have you tried a car with gears? I find it much easier to 'feel' what the car is doing, especially for things like manoevring round corners in reverse. don't give up though, whatever you do, it's the most liberating thing you can do - and now I'm a real demon driver

CAM · 11/09/2002 12:23

ks don't give up, I had 2 driving tests before passing on the 3rd and they were the 3 scariest days of my life. How are we supposed to test drive when we are so nervous? I know the examiner passed me just to get rid of me.

PamT · 11/09/2002 12:34

KS, it took me 3 goes to pass when I was 17 (v long time ago now!). I think you should consider changing your instructor as someone else might just be able to give you tips to help you pass. My instructor's car had a sticker in the back window which was placed in exactly the right position to guide you round a corner - you knew that when the kerb was in line with the sticker you had to start turning the wheel the other way! He also had a hexagonal plate on the front of the car that lined up with the kerb when you were parking. I think sometimes the more lessons you have the more worked up you become. I didn't have any lessons between the 2nd and 3rd tests and still managed to pass. Don't give up, you'll get there in the end.

ks · 11/09/2002 13:19

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bundle · 11/09/2002 13:22

ks, definitely change instructor - if you're scared your heart rate/pulse shoots up and you're worried about him/what he'll say as well as your performance. I think that's why it's such a tricky thing learning with someone you know well eg dh, because you worry they'll judge you and tut. I lived near Southampton football ground when I learned so parallel parking's a doddle now, because she always made me park the b**y thing on rainy, miserable midweek match nights. good luck

Dizzymummy · 11/09/2002 13:23

This is a subject close to my heart!! - I only learnt to drive when I was pregnant. I had been putting it off, I built it up into a real issue and convinced myself that I'd never be able to do it.

I had lessons from an absolutely useless instructor years ago who made me go for a test (He said I was ready - I knew I wasn't but like an idiot I did it anyway). The result was the scariest 1/2 hour of my life. I was so jittery that I pulled onto a major roundabout - the examiner slammed on the brakes and I started to laugh like a loon out of sheer nerves (we abandoned it at that point). Even thinking about it now makes me shudder.

After that I decided that I didn't need to drive - living in London meant that I could still get around. This changed when I got pg and I decided I really should learn. Went to the AA driving school, I explained how nervous I was and that I needed someone v patient, my instructor turned out to be absolutely wonderful. He gave me back my confidence (this took ages by the way as I was a total basketcase when it came to driving). I finally felt ready to do the test but nerves got the better of me and it took no less then 7 attempts!! without my instructors encouragement I would have given up, even one of the testers told me I should get something for my nerves!.

Now I feel confident have no problem driving anywhere although this did take a full year after eventually passing!.

When I hop into my car I feel proud that I stuck at it, it has made a huge difference to me as I now had the independance to go where I like. My advice is go for it get a really good instructor. If I can do it anyone can!!

Tigermoth I love the bit about intelligent people having difficulty learning to drive, I must tell this to dh the next time he takes the xxxx out of me!!

ks · 11/09/2002 13:31

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Enid · 11/09/2002 14:04

I finally learnt to drive last year (I was 34!). I started 3 years previously, but took my test before I was ready with a crap BSM London instructor and it completely freaked me out. This time I had about 10 months worth of lessons with a saintly man down here in Dorset. The only way I could crack my test was to take half a beta-blocker before it - otherwise I shook so much I couldn't operate the pedals!

It has changed my life - keep at it, keep at it, keep at it!

Jaybee · 11/09/2002 14:23

PamT - You're not from Peterborough are you? - my instructor did the exact same thing with the stickers - I have never heard of another - he used to constantly munch on mint imperials too!!

Dizzymummy · 11/09/2002 16:18

KS, I really think you should change your instructor like the others suggested. I was scared stiff of my first instructor. When I'd do something silly (like pull onto a main road without looking!!) he'd shout at me making me twice as nervous. I dreaded each and every lesson until I finally gave it up as a bad job after my toe curling test attempt. Good luck with it all and once you do pass, which you will - I hope you don't take as many attempts as me though as that was a bit soul destroying - the feeling is great...

Marina · 11/09/2002 16:20

ks, can't add much encouragement as I tried to learn to drive last year, had a complete sod of an instructor (high point: him turning up for a Sat am lesson with the smell of the previous night's booze seeping from every pore) and gave up in self-loathing. Still mentally wave two fingers every time I see one of the School's cars. Sorry to hear of your struggles, keep at it (I'll be back out there sowing mayhem on London's roads again soon as well) and don't let it get you down too much.

PamT · 11/09/2002 16:45

Jaybee, no I'm in W Yorks. My instructor was called Francis Drake but he had a cute little mazda, not an armada

tigermoth · 11/09/2002 18:05

ks, I don't think I can add more to the long message I wrote in Janauary, but just remember, no one comes out of the womb with a pair of driving gloves on. Everyone has to learn. Don't ever be ashamed of going at your own pace. Safe drivers know themselves. Its the unsafe ones who overestimate their abilities. All those drivers and driving instructors who come on all macho and say it's second nature have forgotten that it is not.

Jbr · 11/09/2002 18:50

Most of the men I know learned as soon as they were old enough. Most of the women put it off for a long time - the older women anyway.

Do we still see cars and driving as a "man's thing".

Look at that silly cow on "Driving School". I can't remember her name but she only learned to drive after her husband died because he wouldn't "let" her.

Licence is the physical bit of paper. The other license means being allowed to do something.

Jbr · 11/09/2002 18:52

Incidentally, I didn't pass until I was 18 years and 2 months old. I passed first time but it took me ages before I felt ready to take the test.