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WIITs take things to the third thread, hoping the Gruffalo stays in his bed.

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100years · 27/05/2011 11:21

Old thread in here

Welcome to the third WIIT thread. Are you all ready for more action?

Recent stats as follows :)

JBells PG#2 arrived! Luca John born 16th May at 3.10pm
mrswantstobeamum PG#1 EDD 17th June
Squirrel007 PG#1 EDD 13 July
WYorksLass PG#1 (boy) EDD 25th August
100years PG#1 EDD 1st Sept. Last working day 29th July
Nannyl PG#1 EDD 13 Sept
Strawberrypie PG#1 EDD 8th October
WhyWait PG#1 EDD 22st November
MrsSatsuma TTC#1 since Nov 2010
ShaggingWithIntent TTC since April 2011
AmandaCooper TTC #1 June 2011
AstroZola (hopefully) TTC#1 September 2011
BebeJones It's really complicated, TTC#2 at some point soon
Quodbilet TTC#1 sometime in the future

Settle in for more action and adventure.

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AmandaCooper · 15/09/2011 19:43

Oh 100years I hope you're alright, that sounds so painful, compensating benefits of lovely LO notwithstanding. What is endometriosis?

Minipie try taking an omega 3-6-9 supplement daily. I didn't have much luck with either grapefruit juice or cough syrup.

bebeballroom · 15/09/2011 20:44

100 - Did you mean mastitis? (sp?) That's an infection in your boobs which makes you feel utter shite! endometriosis is to do with womb lining forming outside of the uterus IIRC.....either way, not good!
That is shocking about the episiotomy. Did you have stitches? You poor thing! Rest, rest, rest, bugger the housework, just focus on Edith & getting better. We can wait for all the details, we just want you to be well! :)

100years · 16/09/2011 00:38

Bebe she def meant endometriosis she said it sometimes can happen after birth, but she wasn't wholly convinced as I've not got certain symptoms of it. I do now have a few 'tender' spots in my right boob so I'm thinking mastitis possibly, but I'm not sure. Will see how it is in the morning.

Yes I've got stitches in the cut, mw said when she saw it that the doc prob didn't stitch close enough.

Just feeding again but managed 90 min sleepGrin

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AmandaCooper · 16/09/2011 06:25

Oh dear having a baby doesn't seem like such a good idea all of a sudden. I hope you have managed a bit more sleep and that you feel a bit better this morning x

bebeballroom · 16/09/2011 08:17

100 - OMG that' horrendous, poor you :( Definitely keep an eye on the boob though, just in case. Make sure LO is properly 'draining' them, mastitis can make you feel like death. Shivery, almost like you have flu. (But then, I'm sure you know all that) I hope whatever it is they can sort it out quickly.
Sending big un-MN and little squidges for Edith!! :o

I'm feeling like I'm starting to fall apart (physically) again! Had antibiotics to clear up a bug/chest thing I'd had for ages, which gave me thrush, then DD has whacked my shoulder by jumping on me (about a week ago & it still hurts) and now my pelvis/hip is starting to hurt like it did last year when I had bursitis. I've just started exercising to lose weight again, and this is really going to set me back if it happens again. I won't be able to walk DD to preschool, and I won't be able to do any exercise (other than swimming I should think) so feeling a bit fed up! Oh well, onwards & upwards I guess! Very insignificant compared to poor 100. :(

strawberrypie · 16/09/2011 09:31

Get well soon 100, hopefilly the abs will work quickly. I'm glad you are still sounding positive and upbeat even though you feel rubbish, Like you said Edith is such a cutie she will cheer you up. Could the midwife not have re-sutured the episiotomy wound? Are they going to see how it does or refer you back to the doctor?

Bebe hope you are feeling better soon also- thrush is so annoying- your DD sounds like a budding gymnast/stunt person!

Congratulations to nannyl! sounds like everything went perfectly!

I saw the midwife on Tuesday and she was still unsure about the baby's position so referred me for a scan which happened yesterday- good news she is cephalic in the ROA position (as I suspected due to scanning her at work!)

Was it you Quod who is watching The Killing? It is great, I love the main detective in it (why is she always eating when she interviews people?)

No useful info on the EWCM issue apart from some people recommend using a lubricant which is supposed to help the swimmers on their way- is it called pro-seed?

AC I think the way your OH loves the cat is really sweet- He has obviously got a paternal side- we just need to get him over the initial dithering. I'm sure once you are actually pregnant and the LO arrives he will be fine. An accident with the persona would probably be the best thing that could ever happenen for you both........

strawberrypie · 16/09/2011 09:32

ps 100- did the MW mean endometritis?

Quodlibet · 16/09/2011 09:48

NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO MENTION THE KILLING! ESPECIALLY ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE FINAL 2 EPISODES! Sorry for panic - but DP has gone away again leaving me in the position of not being able to watch the last 2 eps til he comes back on Sunday. And I'm terrified someone's going to reveal the end! (But yes strawberry she is so rude, but that's why she's brilliant, no? We keep laughing at how she walks away from people while they're talking to her)

I love the idea of Strawberry scanning herself at work - brilliant!

AC I think Strawberry is right about your DH's hidden paternal side.

100 hope you're feeling better today. Is there anyone else who can look at your episiotomy and restitch it or do you just have to leave it to settle? (ow ow ow you poor thing)

Bebe blimey you've been knocked about a bit! do you think the knock to the shoulder could have reactivated the hip somehow? Maybe you're over-compensating with something else to spare the shoulder? That kind of thing happens to me sometimes.

minipie · 16/09/2011 10:07

Ouch ouch ouch 100 that sounds awful! and the infection/virus sounds pretty miserable too. Hope they get you fixed up quickly and hope Edith provides plenty of lovely distraction in the meantime.

bebe sorry to hear about your aches and pains! these things always seem to come all together don't they. Take care and get plenty of sleep and good food!

AC thanks for the omega tip - just started on the Pregnacare conception supplements so I'll check if those have it in and if not will get myself to the chemist. Strawberry I've got myself some pre-seed, tried it last month but no success, but will keep going!

100years · 16/09/2011 12:29

Hi

Thanks Strawberry, it is actually endometritis, having not heard of it before I just heard endometriosis and it wasn't till you wrote that that I checked and yep, that's what she said, given how she explained what it was, she also wrote it down on a piece of paper, which I hadn't checked, but I have this morning and yep it's that - or rather it is possibly that. I think I'm just in baby brain mode.

Bebe, I hope you feel less sore soon, and certain (not all) antibiotics give me thrush, it it horrible.

AC, it may sound bad, but it is worth it, I'm still loving it, even if I cried a lot yesterday feeling so poo cack.

Strawberry, I saw the doc who said about the wound gaping, but she seemed happy that the mw was checking it again monday, they don't re suture unless it's a proper big problem, and if so they would have to re cut the wound to enable a wound to heal if that makes sense, as the skin is healing now, if not together. Did speak to the mw this morning who said it was only a few millimetres apart, will see how it goes over the weekend. Glad your baby is ceph :)

Thanks everyone for the messages and sympathy. I'm feeling better today, and temp is almost normal, even if I managed to soak through the bed covers this morning.

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100years · 16/09/2011 14:09

Birth story:

So the plan was to try gas and air and tens machine through labour and to try and remain as mobile as possible. Natural third stage and breast feeding within the first hour. Here is what actually happened!

Thursday saw me wake up with regular tightenings I was still in bed but thought if I was doing something I would need to stop doing it. And occasionally it took my breath away. But the tightenings weren't painful. Nonetheless I was aware of them and let family know what was going on. All day long I kept getting these tightenings/ pains but wasn't convinced that this wouldn't stop. I timed them for a while and they were at a regular 15 mins in the day, getting slightly more frequent in the evening. Bath and an attempt at an early night. I still wasn't hugely convinced things were happening as I hadn't been in real pain through the day.

2:18 I woke from sleep and bam, wtf oh now 'that's' a contraction. OH (P for purposes of this) woke almost immediately and after 10 mins and a wee I had had 3 contractions. I ran a bath and had 10 mins in it before getting out and getting the tens put on. Timed the contractions and although they weren't all at 3 mins the ave was 3 mins between them. Rang the hospital, coping fine with the pain using tens so was told I could go in or wait. Decided I'd have some food and go in after that. Rang my sister (B for the purposes of this) as she was going to be birth partner too and had some toast. After 1/2 hr or so rang the hospital again and said I was going in. Middle of the night so we were there in no time. Examined and monitored and was 3cm. Was told I could stay but go to ante natal ward but best was to go home as I was coping well with the tens.

B had arrived by this point so we all headed to ours. P went to try to sleep for a bit as we knew things were progressing and we all felt it was better that he rested as much as possible. B and I tried watching a DVD and this kind of failed. The pains were getting stronger and more regular and ended up with a few swear words while they were happening. Had another bath and things got more painful and more and more regular to the point where B was predicting when the next one would come! Out of the bath and woke P up. Got dressed with some help and rang the hospital again to say we were going in.

By this time it was about 8:30 and so the worst possible traffic time in the world. But we made it there in about 20-25 mins or maybe longer I'm not sure. All the while the pains kept up and the tens was being turned up more. Arrived at the hosp and went to triage and was told to wait in the waiting room for '2minutes' this turned into at least quarter of an hour and I was at the door doing the whole try try breathe through the contraction thing.

We were then taken through for me to be examined and was by this point 4-5 cm with bulging waters so then waited for a midwife to take me through to the delivery room. The walk through was not pleasant and I walked as fast as I could between the contractions and hung onto the desk halfway there when I got a contraction.

Into the room and on the monitor and I was then given gas and air. Sucked away on it feeling high as a kite at the end of each contraction but not feeling the benefit of it during, other than a way to control my breathing. The tens machine was by now on continuous boost and on full whack. And I was thinking how much the pain would get worse so I said 'I think I'd like to try something else now' they asked what i wanted and B said about pethidine but that I was strongly opposed to an epidural because of my history of headaches and migraines. Anyway they said I couldn't have anything at that point as Edith was sleepy and they needed to check she was ok, give it 20 mins and if no probs then I could have some. During this time they asked me to move position, up till now I'd been on my back as it was the most comfy position, weird as I had no inclination to get on a birthing ball or stand as I thought I would have done. So I lay on my side and that still wasn't waking Edith up enough for the pethidine. The question as to what I wanted was asked and I do remember saying I would have anything! Really though I'm so glad I'd so strongly gone against an epidural in my birth plan and when telling P and B about things I would and wouldn't want, that B said again about pethidine and no epidural. Edith still wasn't waking so I was given a bag of fluids, check again in 20-30 mins see how we are doing. She did wake during the fluids but they wanted me to wait longer to check her. I wasn't demanding the pain relief it would have just been nice to have some extra.

It was during the '20' mins that my contractions changed from just pain to real pressure and a pushing feeling. I thought there was no way I'd be at that stage. We hadn't been there long enough. But 3 contractions later my waters broke mid contraction! It was 11:55 I was then examined after my sister explaining to the midwives that I actually could be that far as she had had a very speedy labour jumping from 4 to 10 much faster than predicted. The midwives were not convinced I was feeling pressure up till that point. Anyway checked and I was 9cm with the mw possibly able to push the rest away to 10. The other mw checked and in that contraction I went to 10cm. 12:20 and 2nd stage officially begins!

At this point I moved onto my hands and knees to try help Edith out but this was not working and after a while they decided I was better in my back so I turned over again and was aware that things were being mentioned about her heart rate dropping in the contraction but was ok between and was put into the stirrups(lithotomy position?) I was pushing and they started to see hair but I wasn't getting her out alone without it causing a drop in heart rate. The doc then said about ventouse and started to get stuff ready saying she would do an episiotomy first and go from there. All this seemed to take forever and I was a bit confused about the time due to the heart rate concerns and wasn't sure how bad it was.

Between a set of contractions the doc injected local anaesthetic and did the cut. The next contraction, push and I felt her head 'pop' out, then another bit of her then the rest of her. All during one contraction. Wow. Born at 13:36 She was put onto me all slimy, the mw said that bit was good for my skin and to rub it in. I just lay and looked at my baby daughter. P cut the cord and she was given to a paediatrician who was by this point in the room. I asked if she was ok, and was told yes. She came back to me and we had a few photos and I managed to get her to feed at 14:00.

During the labour I didn't converse and was kind of focussed on just getting through it all. I got quite spaced out on the g&a at times which was lovely but only came when the contraction ended! And my sister said there was much less time resting between contractions than the pain I was having so I was pretty much constantly in pain till right before the last few pushes. I wasn't begging for the extra pain relief and pretty much gave up the gas towards the end when I was pushing proper. I remember P or B saying to see about switching the tens machine off as they didn't think it was having an effect, this I managed to say no to.

My official first stage labour lasted 3hrs and 1 minute and the second stage was 1hr 16 minutes. Like I said officially 4 hrs but the 'reality' was a little longer. But they don't class it as labour till 4cm. So it was fast and very intense once it got going.

So as per the plan tens and gas and air, but definitely not mobile through it! But that's fine. Would I change what I did. No, I was more comfortable than I was when I was on my feet and it worked for me. I'm really glad I didn't have any extra pain relief, for a start it was that quick it may have affected her straight after birth, secondly I can say i did it with gas and air and tens! and I'm so glad I had expressed my wishes so strongly re epidural before the birth, I think when it actually came down to it, if they had actually talked about doing one I would have said no, the 'I'll take anything comment' was a kind of flip this hurts get rid if it, but actually going through with an epi would have meant consent and I am sure I would have then reasoned with myself as I was having doubts in my mind (why did i say 'that') about having said what I did but couldn't express this and am grateful to B for being so clear for me. I didn't get the natural third stage due to the episiotomy, but I knew that was always a possibility. And I managed to feed within the first hour :)

Both P and B were amazing throughout. I can't begin to say how amazing they were. I needed them and they were just there. B wants to be a midwife. I bloody well hope she gets on a course soon, she would be fecking awesome. I was at the birth of both of B's girls and she always says how much I helped her, it's hard to comprehend how much someone means that you helped them, until you've been in that situation, I only hope I helped her half as much as she helped me. P, well he's just wonderful and will be a great dad to our daughter.

I don't remember the rest of the afternoon as easily. My blood sugar took a dive twice once in delivery room an then again on the ward, and at one point on the ward I thought I was going to pass out. But my sis and P both had holds of her and looked after her. We fed again before being taken to the ward.

Due to the fact she was so little and below the 10% weight line on my personalised growth chart she had to have blood sugar check every 3 hrs for her first 24 hrs, but they were all good and she was ok with the stick every few hrs. We had 2 nights in hosp as we needed to see a wet nappy which may have happened before but had been missed due to 2 massive poos! But we came home early on Sunday morning :)

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minipie · 16/09/2011 14:55

100 just wanted to say thanks for posting that. From a completely selfish perspective it helps me a lot to know more about what a birth is really like because it's something I've always been terrified a little nervous about. You tell it really well. And it sounds like you had a good experience I think and will have good memories. Albeit a bit of mending to do afterwards!

strawberrypie · 16/09/2011 15:09

Fantastic birth story 100! Thanks for sharing it with us x

bebeballroom · 16/09/2011 15:21

100 - What a great story! Sounds like you were so relaxed about the whole thing & just went with the flow!! Glad you feel it went well x

AmandaCooper · 16/09/2011 18:34

Wow 100years what a great birth story thank you for sharing that with us in so much detail. I am terrified of the idea of an episiotomy, I am thinking I will probably ask for an epidural just in case I need an episiotomy. Probably because I can imagine that kind of pain better than contractions.

I'm really happy we've kept this group going you know, I'm sorry I abandoned the thread for a while. Nearly time for WIIT thread four!

AmandaCooper · 16/09/2011 18:40

Minipie on that one occasion where DH and I TTC (but then he changed his mind and it turned out that it had been too early in my cycle) I inserted a whisked raw egg white, inspired by some mad website. Somehow (a) DH didn't notice; and (b) I didn't get gangrene of the fanjo!

Probably not recommended, but I was thinking it might be my one and only chance and I hadn't a drop of EWCM!

bebeballroom · 16/09/2011 19:13

AC - I just spat my drink all down my front! Love it!!

We need to think of some names for our 4th thread!!

AmandaCooper · 16/09/2011 20:18

Hmm maybe I should have namechanged for that one come to think of it!

minipie · 16/09/2011 21:31

Grin actually I have heard of that before AC so on the scale of TTCing madness that is not too mad! not sure what that says about the TTC madness scale mind you...

I daren't ask really but ... how on earth did you get it up there?!! egg white is pretty uncooperative stuff!

AmandaCooper · 16/09/2011 21:36

How did I get it in is surely a tale for the next thread!

bebeballroom · 16/09/2011 21:49

And how did your DH not notice?! I mean, it's not really erm... Usual, is it?!

AmandaCooper · 16/09/2011 22:09

I don't know actually, it was pretty messy because I was on top (not recommended by the egg white enthusiast web bloggers) so I just rushed through it and tried to scoop as much of it out the way as possible! Come to think of it no wonder DH wasn't up for a repeat session!

AmandaCooper · 16/09/2011 22:12

And after all that I didn't get pregnant - how rude!!

bebeballroom · 16/09/2011 22:15

AC - Bless ya!! That is so funny! desperate times call for desperate measures and all that eh?! :o Were they just chicken eggs? Maybe you need something more erm...unusual? Hmm Quail perhaps?!

AmandaCooper · 16/09/2011 22:48

I think I just need to do it at the right time of the month with a willing partner, Bebe!