What would you do???

[Boe]

I have just found out that someone I know very well (a family member) and absolutely detest is a financial backer for a very far right organisation that has just one a seat in a local election.

I distanced myself from the said person a long time ago and I know this seems like I am a complete bitch but if it came out in the press (if they would be interested that is?) he would be in a right pickle - he is a rich business man and a life long member of the Rotary Club and his wife is well 'respected' (not by me I hasten to add) secondary school teacher in a comprehensive that has a huge percentage of minorities and refugees attending.

Am I a complete cow to want to expose this man - I am embarrassed by what he stands for and believes in and that is one of the reasons why I will have nothing to do with him (as well as a huge list of others!!), half of me would die of embarrassement if everyone knew and half of me would be quite glad that he has finally shown his true colours.

I am just not sure what to do - the people he is backing are complete facist bigots that have no place in british politics and I am soooo cross that he has done this.

Or the BBCi one?

I think maybe localish paper might have more impact if he is well known locally but not nationally.

God, I just looked on the BNP site Apparently, they're backing the idea that flouride causes a low IQ. The evidence? Low numbers of fillings in BNP supporters.

Boe - I really don't think that this is your battle. Sorry to say this, but it's not really your business. And it definitely sounds like you are wanting to do this because of your dislike for them, it certainly sounds like a personal grudge.

And did you actually say that its the BNP that he is supporting? How sure are you of the information you have received??

Not liking someone and not agreeing with their politics or way of life is not a reason for destroying their life!

Before I get attacked I do NOT support the BNP and personally think they are sick.

Boe - I really don't think that this is your battle. Sorry to say this, but it's not really your business. And it definitely sounds like you are wanting to do this because of your dislike for them, it certainly sounds like a personal grudge.

And did you actually say that its the BNP that he is supporting? How sure are you of the information you have received??

Not liking someone and not agreeing with their politics or way of life is not a reason for destroying their life!

Before I get attacked I do NOT support the BNP and personally think they are sick.

Boe - I really don't think that this is your battle. Sorry to say this, but it's not really your business. And it definitely sounds like you are wanting to do this because of your dislike for them, it certainly sounds like a personal grudge.

And did you actually say that its the BNP that he is supporting? How sure are you of the information you have received??

Not liking someone and not agreeing with their politics or way of life is not a reason for destroying their life!

Before I get attacked I do NOT support the BNP and personally think they are sick.

I have no idea what just happened! I hadn't even finished typing that post!

Hi M2T, glad to see you

Boe - I hadn't read all the posts, sorry! I take back some of it, but I still think this is a personal thing rather than a moral standing.

Hi Doormat.
Just on for a quickie.

Oui dont get fresh with me M2T -your not my type LOL

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Some of reasons are personal and some are just because what he is standing for is wrong - although he is not standing publically - I would actually have more respect for him if he was - he is just a coward.

I also do not want my DD going any where near him now - just imagine if she came out with that rot - I hope she will be clever enough not to and I will most certainly teach her that it is wrong but I would hate for her to even hear the sort of things he says.

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Thanks - money would be nice but really was not expecting anything as not big star or anything and is not really that interesting to the general public - would be a nice extra though.

I will have a look on Private Eye and Socialist Worker websites.

I feel inclined to agree with M2T! As much as I abhor racists and facists, this man, no matter how loathesome he may be, is entitled to work for who he wants and to support who he wants. The fact that you know what he is doing means that other people do too, and he must be aware of this. Personally I would not be the one to 'out' him, that will probably happen in time anyway. Make your feelings known to him by all means, but don't ruin his family's life in this way (after all, if you out him, it will not just be him who suffers). The facists and bigots are the life-wreckers, we have more decency than that. So stand above him and keep a dignified silence. I fully believe in Karma (not Sutra!) and the saying 'what goes around comes around' so he will get his come-uppance. Best not to get yourself involved though.

Expose him! Do it annon so as not to cause yourself hassle - dont care if that sounds hypocritical. Don't bother with the daily mail... they don't exactly have great record of anti-racist reporting - being that they constantly seek to whip up the population with anti asylum stuff. Secret backers are the worst! hiding behind the party and getting someone else to espouse the crappy views for them.... if secret backers feel less secure about being exposed then maybe they will become more reluctant to back BNP in the future... thereby reducing the resources of racists. You must consider your court case though (i'm confused about whos doing what to who there... dnt know your full history) but as someone else said you can always seek solicitors advice. This guy, well both the guys are scum and I would have no worries about exposing them at aall. dont do it for monetary gain - tho' it doesnt sound that its that you are after. Frankly if they are making your life hell re: your dd then play their game! You could also try contacting people like Mark Thomas (do google search for Mark Thomas comedy product) he's not so much a comedian these days but a political activist - takes on 'the people's cases' kinda thing.. although he is hilarious too! think private eye would be interested if they can print somthing that isnt libel - their worry not yours... try also New Statesman. Let me know what you do.

Just done a bit of searching and, although it's not quite clear, it seems that donations of over £50 to political parties cannot be anonymous. Someone must know if this is now law. Not sure whether this helps you or not but...

Anonymous donations to political parties

have a look at this website:
www.stopthebnp.com

there may be somewhere on this website where you are able to discuss this issue in more depths with people who are trying to stamp out this hateful bunch of nazis.

and totally agree that your daughter should not come into contact with people with such hateful political viewpoints.

Boe
NO, NO, NO.

You may hate this guy, and have personal reasons for wanting to get at him, but this could backfire VERY badly, just at the time when you need to be seen at your most rational.

You cannot be certain that your involvement will be kept anonymous, as you don't know where this issue will go.

If you really must have a go (and I strongly advise against), then get the issue of custody over your dd sorted out first. Anything you do now could endanger that

Rhubarb you hit the nail on the head.

"What goes around comes around" is one of the most truthful sayings there is. I believe it so much.

Sometimes the best decision is no decision, I think. And this is one of those times possibly?

Boe, IMO the most important thing right now is that you get your daughter back. If there's even the remotest chance that this man will blame you for outing him and this in turn weakens your position in court or puts you in danger of getting your legs broken, then don't expose him until you have your daughter back.

If this man is exposed, it's human nature to suspect his enemies - those who hold something against him. You, therefore, are a prime target, even if the information is in the public domain and he can't prove it was you.

That doesn't mean you'll never expose him. It just means that now is not the right time to do it. I hate all that the BNP stands for too and those who fund it. I think it could serve a useful purpose to expose this man, if he has set himself up very publically as a pillar of the community. But for your daughter's sake IMO principles and revenge have to take a back seat for now.

Talking about revenge, and I'm not saying this is right but.....could you look on it this way: I know nothing about this man, haven't read the newspapers, but presumably he is on the ascendent? if he is not that well known, his fame is growing? if that's the case, and you wait and don't expose him till after your court case, it could have far more impact on him personally and publically because he will be more famous. If you want revenge, waiting will get you more of it. If you want anti BNP publicity then time it for maximum effect. How often does he give money to the party? do you know? if it is an annual donation and he has only recently made it, he will not be giving more for a good while. If you can wait and find out more, you can expose him better. Playing for time, not letting on what you know, might also give you a clearer picture of how much his wife agrees with his BNP support.

You have only just found out this information. Sit on it for now. If you then decide to expose him, you might be able to do more with the information than you first think.

Sobernow, child porn is illegal, there is a huge difference here. Supporting a political party, whether it be a facism one or not is not illegal. Yes the BNP do deserve everything they get, but what you decide to do with your money, so long as it is not illegal, is surely your own business? Plus you never know, exposure might backfire and this guy might get himself some more support if he were to be outed by sick people who would admire him for it! There are a lot of supporters out there for the BNP so don't assume that outing him would discredit him. Keep your eye on him by all means for any clue of illegal activities that you can get him on, but this I'm afraid is nothing, it wouldn't even cause a ripple.