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Realised this year how much my 19 year old just doesn't know

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davidssdt · 17/07/2026 10:12

Bit of a random one. My eldest is 19 and it's only this year I've properly clocked how much genuinely useful "adult life" stuff just never gets covered in school - not because teachers don't try, but probably more that there's never actually time carved out for it.
I had to sit down and explain what a mortgage actually is and why an unpaid phone bill can damage your credit file for years, because none of that had ever come up in school. Also had the apprenticeship vs uni conversation recently and realised there's no real structured way for them to weigh that up - it's basically left to them and whoever they last spoke to.
So for full disclosure, I'm actually building something around this (a curriculum site for 16-25s) but not naming it here as I don't want this to read as a plug. I'm genuinely just curious what other parents experience has been around this. What's the thing your teenager had absolutely no clue about until they had to learn the hard way?

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davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:25

hellisemptyandallthedevilsarehere · 18/07/2026 20:10

What a patronising website address! Should it not be stuff your parents didn’t/neglected to teach?! I’m so put off by the dig at schools and teachers.

Sorry you feel that way about the site. This is a first for 'patronizing'. It's also not a dig at schools at all, it's just a matter of fact that most of this has been in the curriculum since 2014 and the schools simply are not delivering it consistently. I am trying to help parents that are not able to keep up with the ever changing landscape or able and confident enough to teach their kids this broad range of stuff. Thanks for your input though

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davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:33

MildlyMoist · 18/07/2026 15:35

Don’t you understand that this sort of feedback is telling you what the general attitude of much of your potential audience is? So many people telling you that passing on this information to their children is their own job means that your proposal has a smaller audience than you anticipated. If this is genuine piece of market research (hint - it can’t be as you have no idea how to get the data you need) you would be just as interested in the negative responses and want to explore them in as much depth as the positive ones.

I am genuinely paying attention to the negative comments. I'm sorry if my response there came across defensive.

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ReadingSoManyThreads · 18/07/2026 21:33

davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:25

Sorry you feel that way about the site. This is a first for 'patronizing'. It's also not a dig at schools at all, it's just a matter of fact that most of this has been in the curriculum since 2014 and the schools simply are not delivering it consistently. I am trying to help parents that are not able to keep up with the ever changing landscape or able and confident enough to teach their kids this broad range of stuff. Thanks for your input though

Why do you want to help parents when you couldn't even be bothered to teach your own child these basic things? And if you are in the UK, then the commenter was correct, it is patronising, not "patronizing".

davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:34

seanconneryseyebrow · 18/07/2026 15:45

Ive read it and really really like it OP. The only gap Id say is cooking, shopping. cleaning clothes etc. You'd be amazed how many very clever teens/young adults can't wash clothes, shop and cook a simple meal. Id add that in too. :)

Noted. Many thanks for your support and feedback

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davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:39

mustbenicetobeataxexile · 18/07/2026 15:48

I bought my teenager a little book advising on all things financial in a basic way, as I'm not the best person to ask. Having said that, I suspect they haven't bothered to read it.

Unfortunately reading books has been on a massive decline for years and you are certainly not alone, many parents (and teachers) do not feel equipped enough to teach this stuff either. I appreciate your honesty in saying this as most of the comments have been the opposite.

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davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:44

mustbenicetobeataxexile · 18/07/2026 15:53

I think it's a good idea, but it sounds as though it's going to be very brief (modules can be completed in minutes). And you'll need to be very on the ball with updating.
I wouldn't expect very physical things like cooking, but some basic health and safety stuff would be useful - eg making sure that meat is properly cooked (and what might happen if you don't), etc.

I have been thinking about this too and have not finalised on the length of the modules or roughly how many modules per pillar. I agree I will have a job staying on top of the changes but I am working on some automation to track this. Thanks for the feedback

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Needmorelego · 18/07/2026 21:49

davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:39

Unfortunately reading books has been on a massive decline for years and you are certainly not alone, many parents (and teachers) do not feel equipped enough to teach this stuff either. I appreciate your honesty in saying this as most of the comments have been the opposite.

I actually find reading books is hugely popular with today's teens/young adults.
They go to book festivals and author signings. They buy special edition copies of favourite books.
Go in a branch of Waterstones on a Saturday and it's full of teens choosing books.
Obviously non fiction is different but I really would say that the YA fiction genre is hugely popular and doing really well.
Teens also read a lot on Kindle/their phones so even if you never see a particular teen with a physical book it doesn't mean they aren't reading.

davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:54

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 18/07/2026 17:23

I work in financial services. I’ve seen 19 year olds in debt you wouldn’t believe. As soon as they begin to have their own money, they should understand how the world works in my opinion. Otherwise, others will tell them things that they will believe . Like credit cards are a good idea. Or like me, school will tell them student debt is a great idea and the only way to get ahead.

if you leave it too late - say 15/16 they won’t be interested in listening.

So no, it’s not about being brilliant, it’s about having seen the impact of a lack of education.

Sounds like we are more on the same page than I initially thought. I apologise for being short with my response but your super brief claim took me by surprise. An 11 year old knowing about compound interest, ISAs, sole trader vs LTD, dividends, renter rights act, PAYE vs self employment.... etc is certainly very impressive. But I do agree that maybe some of these lessons and mindset should be instilled much earlier in a format suitable to the younger ages. Thanks for clarifying your point, I do appreciate it.

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davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:58

Needmorelego · 18/07/2026 21:49

I actually find reading books is hugely popular with today's teens/young adults.
They go to book festivals and author signings. They buy special edition copies of favourite books.
Go in a branch of Waterstones on a Saturday and it's full of teens choosing books.
Obviously non fiction is different but I really would say that the YA fiction genre is hugely popular and doing really well.
Teens also read a lot on Kindle/their phones so even if you never see a particular teen with a physical book it doesn't mean they aren't reading.

I wish and hope you are right as I strongly believe reading is beneficial on so many levels. Unfortunately the stats tell a different story. Just 32.7% of 8 to 18 year olds in the UK say they enjoy reading in their free time, down 36% since 2005 and the lowest level in 20 years (National Literacy Trust, 2025).

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Needmorelego · 18/07/2026 22:02

davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:58

I wish and hope you are right as I strongly believe reading is beneficial on so many levels. Unfortunately the stats tell a different story. Just 32.7% of 8 to 18 year olds in the UK say they enjoy reading in their free time, down 36% since 2005 and the lowest level in 20 years (National Literacy Trust, 2025).

The thing is.... statistics are only going to come from children who are asked the question.
How many children from the UK population were actually asked if they enjoy reading?
All I know is that the vast majority of teenagers/young adults I know absolutely love reading.
(I know one who doesn't but he has a plenty of other interests instead)

davidssdt · 18/07/2026 22:06

Needmorelego · 18/07/2026 17:34

@davidssdt I admire your efforts.
However personally (and as a parent of an 18 year old) I generally don't go to random apps/websites when looking for financial information.
I stick to "official" sites like gov.uk or the website of an actual bank.
There is so much incorrect information out there I want to be sure I am getting the correct facts.
No offence.
🙂

No offence taken at all. I appreciate your honest opinion and agree that is a fair concern. The content will be researched from primary sources like gov.uk, with a financial professional reviewing the money content before it goes live. Not trying to replace gov.uk or MSE, more pulling the right bits together from a number of those reliable sources and explaining them clearly and simply. There will be a free tier when it launches, hopefully you will be convinced if you see it :) www.stuffschooldidntteach.com

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EmpressaurusKitty · 18/07/2026 22:10

Just out of curiosity are you the same bloke who was building the family flow app? You sound very similar but he did say he was using AI to write his posts.

Edited to say sorry for the gif, it was an accident & I can’t remove it.

Lionel Messi GIF
Minasama · 18/07/2026 22:11

Because they don’t read Jackie magazine they do not understand the importance of using one pad per eye to remove eye makeup and sweeping from thee inner corner out rather than going backwards and forwards.

Needmorelego · 18/07/2026 22:12

davidssdt · 18/07/2026 22:06

No offence taken at all. I appreciate your honest opinion and agree that is a fair concern. The content will be researched from primary sources like gov.uk, with a financial professional reviewing the money content before it goes live. Not trying to replace gov.uk or MSE, more pulling the right bits together from a number of those reliable sources and explaining them clearly and simply. There will be a free tier when it launches, hopefully you will be convinced if you see it :) www.stuffschooldidntteach.com

But I don't see the point of going via a site/app to get information that been sourced from another site.
I just go straight to that site....🤷

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 18/07/2026 22:18

davidssdt · 18/07/2026 21:54

Sounds like we are more on the same page than I initially thought. I apologise for being short with my response but your super brief claim took me by surprise. An 11 year old knowing about compound interest, ISAs, sole trader vs LTD, dividends, renter rights act, PAYE vs self employment.... etc is certainly very impressive. But I do agree that maybe some of these lessons and mindset should be instilled much earlier in a format suitable to the younger ages. Thanks for clarifying your point, I do appreciate it.

I bought him a finance book at the start of the year which was really good. It was an adult one bit really accessible and built it up bit by bit. I’ll post the link when I figure out what it is - he’s in bed now so I can’t check

davidssdt · 18/07/2026 22:21

woodlands01 · 18/07/2026 07:36

So much of this is covered in school through PDP (personal development program) or whatever each school calls it. The issue is kids do not engage. They think they either know it all or can look it up on the internet when they need it. I have been a sixth form form tutor for years and we cover all of this. Including apprenticeship vs university, yet no matter how much we say or show getting an apprenticeship is soooooo hard, much harder than uni, it is a fall back for those who don’t want to make a decision. ‘I’ll get an apprenticeship’. My y13 this year asked me for some advice on managing money at uni (at the end of the academic year just before they left). We looked at the set of lessons presented previously. They just did not take it in at the time as it wasn’t an immediate issue for them. I am not saying this to be critical of young people at all, it is just they operate differently to how we did and think they can get information immediately when they need it. I have experienced this as a parent too and say to anyone who thinks it is easy to ‘educate’ your own that each young person is different and as a teacher and parent I would be judged as a failure by many on this thread.

This matches what I keep hearing, it's less that it's not taught, more that it doesn't sink in until it's actually relevant. Also really good point on how hard it is to get an apprenticeships, that's a useful correction for the module itself, thank you. And for what it's worth, nothing here reads as a judgement on you, you're clearly doing the job properly, this is aimed at the timing gap, not at teachers or parents failing anyone. www.stuffschooldidntteach.com

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RampantIvy · 18/07/2026 22:36

ReadingSoManyThreads · 18/07/2026 18:43

You are sceptical? As in, you think I'm a liar? My children are home educated and we teach them about the things they actually need to know about life, and not just blindly following the National Curriculum. We teach them to think for themselves, we involve them in discussions regarding our business, accounts, taxes etc. They love learning about it all and are quite business savvy.

I never said "most primary aged children know about all of those things", I was clearly talking about MY children.

Well, I guess that's me told then.
😁

BestieNo1 · 18/07/2026 23:33

Great idea and much needed.
How about percentage rates?
Geography of countries if the world
different parties politic
healthy relationships
blended families
travelling
Dealing with dodgy men
controlling boyfriends?

mustbenicetobeataxexile · 19/07/2026 11:00

I think there could be more than one course here. A money-focused one, a relationships focused one, possibly a maths-focused one. Secondary school maths isn't very useful for most people. The maths a child has to learn to take a grammar school entry exam includes all the really useful stuff. I suspect that most people leave school without knowing (or remembering) that maths and how to use it day to day. Eg to compare the cost of items in shops, to check your change, to understand interest rates.

davidssdt · 19/07/2026 17:31

EmpressaurusKitty · 18/07/2026 22:10

Just out of curiosity are you the same bloke who was building the family flow app? You sound very similar but he did say he was using AI to write his posts.

Edited to say sorry for the gif, it was an accident & I can’t remove it.

Edited

No I am not the same guy but now curious to see what he is building. Can you share a link please?

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davidssdt · 19/07/2026 17:38

BestieNo1 · 18/07/2026 23:33

Great idea and much needed.
How about percentage rates?
Geography of countries if the world
different parties politic
healthy relationships
blended families
travelling
Dealing with dodgy men
controlling boyfriends?

Really appreciate this. We already have some in the Health pillar, module 5: "Relationships: Recognising Unhealthy Patterns." and I have noted the others to research. Thank you www.stuffschooldidntteach.com

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davidssdt · 19/07/2026 17:42

mustbenicetobeataxexile · 19/07/2026 11:00

I think there could be more than one course here. A money-focused one, a relationships focused one, possibly a maths-focused one. Secondary school maths isn't very useful for most people. The maths a child has to learn to take a grammar school entry exam includes all the really useful stuff. I suspect that most people leave school without knowing (or remembering) that maths and how to use it day to day. Eg to compare the cost of items in shops, to check your change, to understand interest rates.

It's actually built as one platform with separate pillars - Money, Life Setup, Work and so on, www.stuffschooldidntteach.com so people can dip into what's relevant rather than buying separate things. The everyday maths point is a good one though, checking change, comparing unit prices, working out real interest cost, that kind of practical numeracy isn't really covered explicitly yet but maybe it should be. Good flag, thanks.

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Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 19/07/2026 17:43

Things I felt I was missing was the more practical parts of life that my dad just dealt with. Changing a tyre, blowing up a tire, how w fuse box works, how to use a drill, etc

EmpressaurusKitty · 19/07/2026 17:44

davidssdt · 19/07/2026 17:31

No I am not the same guy but now curious to see what he is building. Can you share a link please?

I can’t remember what the thread was called but it was on this board & something about family flow, I think.

bogstandardaf · 19/07/2026 18:14

"Terrestrial TV where everyone just watched whatever was on, was such a useful tool and helped so many people understand the world as a whole"

Yes this was how a few generations of people learnt about the world. Plus there was more educational programming, e.g. health and safety adverts about not swimming in reservoirs.

Now young people are only exposed to content they select and then they are fed whatever rubbish the algorithm either thinks they want to watch next or the algorithm wants to make money from.

My school made us all take a qualification in our early teens called 'Life Skills', which taught us, well, life skills. I think it was an hour a week for a term or so? Then a little exam at the end. Old school stuff like writing a cheque, but I expect they could update it for modern times.

Other countries used to have 'civics' lessons, where pupils learnt basics about their political and economic system so they could understand enough about politics to make informed decisions to vote in elections and basic economics. Also good idea, never took off in the UK though...