Are we sinning from what our kids do?

[babymagic2022]

Salaam all,

I live with in laws since we married and we have a lovely cat. She belongs to my BIL who moved out last year, but left her here with us. He’s now fostering two cats but I don’t think he will be taking his own.

My 5 year old and 3 year old, usually annoy the cat. They are of course, told off, each time they do this, but I feel like it’s never ending and especially with the 3 year old, she constantly follows her and even pulled her tail a few days ago. I had to punish her with naughty corner and make her apologise to the cat. She mostly doesn’t let her breathe and it’s very unfair.

My question is, when our kids harm our cat and upset her, do we get the brunt of the sin? I’ve often thought this. My BIL should really have taken her when he left. He knew there are kids in the house and that they are always after her. I just worry that we’re responsible somehow for allowing it to happen. I feel like we’re not doing enough to stop the harm being caused to our cat. How many times can we tell them off?

I think sometimes things that are written over text doesn’t always come out the way in which someone might have intended it to. The tone may sound off or rude when it’s not meant to and that can lead to the other person responding with the same tone. And then it just spirals out of hand. Also, being sleep deprived and fasting isn’t easy so it’s not always easy to keep our cool. Let’s remember it’s Ramadhan and we need to focus on having our good deeds accepted and we don’t want to do anything that can take away from that. :)

Given how disgustingly rude and obnoxious you were to the earlier respondent who gave you good advice, it was clear no matter what anyone else send, you would take umbrage with it.

Keep digging though - everyone can see who the aggressor is - you and your children on that poor cat.

May Allah have mercy on that cat, because you are your children certainly arent.

Has she got a preferred place, one of mine used to love under the bed, the other only liked high places and keep repeating to the kids that its her quiet time…like you’d do with an elderly relative. I think you are doing a good job in terms of teaching your children and it will come but be vigilant.

She said it was a ‘err no, ridiculous question.’ I asked her to be kind after pointing out that this was rude. What’s ‘disgustingly rude and obnoxious’ about that?

you had no advice and nothing nice to comment either.

Now you’re attacking my children, calling them aggressors. Know your limit and stay in your lane. Leave them out of this. They’re kids.

You can’t speak for everyone else, so don’t. You know, ive responded to other people on this post exactly how I treat the cat, so there’s zero reason for you to start making assumptions. You’re getting angrier with each response, calm down please. You’re also forgiven.

Yeah she loves it under the bed just like yours! Ours doesn’t really do high places. Maybe because it’s old, not sure.

yes! Exactly that! I remind them that she’s old and needs peace so it’s best to leave her alone and that when she wants cuddles she’ll come to us. Lucky for us, she always seems to want head strokes! Just need to make sure that my 3 year old strokes her how I showed her. My 5 year old is fine with that but he’ll definitely join in chasing her at times.

they do love her.. I know that, they start to panic and say no, if I tell them that I’m giving her back to her owner, if they’re not going to look after properly. It’s just that they need to respect her boundaries better. Thank you, insha’Allah I’m confident it will. My son massively improved over time so I expect the same from my daughter.

Now you’re attacking my children, calling them aggressors. Know your limit and stay in your lane. Leave them out of this. They’re kids.

Amazing.

In YOUR opening post - YOU said:

"our kids harm our cat"

"I feel like we’re not doing enough to stop the harm being caused to our cat."

I am merely repeating what YOU posted. I made NO claims about your children.

You posted that - not me, or anyone else.

As for angry - you dont know me, so dont claim something you dont know. Its Ramadan - you dont get blessings for lying.

So thats twice you have lied - one about your kids harming the cat and denying it and now about my "anger" - for which you have provide sod all evidence.

So yeh, keep digging. Everyone can see whats been posted on this thread and my conscience is crystal clear.

You keep flying accusations at me. First pass unwanted judgment, which was rude in itself, then call my kids aggressors and saying they’ve no mercy, bearing in mind that one of them just turned 3 this month. They’re literal kids. Also claiming I’m an aggressor and without any mercy to our cat, when I’ve explained exactly how I treat our cat in my other responses.

I could say the exact same thing to you - you don’t know me or how I’m bringing up my kids, so why pass judgment and comment on it?

You keep passing judgment, speaking for everyone else and then reminding me that it’s ramadhan.

From those two sentences you have picked, I would much rather you have offered some sound advice like everyone else, rather than blame me for apparently bringing my kids up wrong.

Not sure how you conclude that I’m lying but you did sound angry to me, especially with the remark about me being an aggressor and having no mercy to our cat. Stop twisting things, I never denied my kids did anything, I just stated you can’t call them mercliess aggressors - you don’t know them.

Again, you’re forgiven. It’s the final 10 days, I’d rather not respond or check this thread further. I don’t want to dwell on negativity just before Eid.

I wish for you a lovely ending to ramadhan and a very happy Eid, with a dua that all yours come true insha’Allah.

Not sure how you conclude that I’m lying

Thats easy. You claimed I was attacking your kids.

All I did was quote YOUR WORDS! 😂🤦‍♂️

You keep passing judgment,

Pot, meet kettle...

Again, you’re forgiven.

Forgiveness comes from God, not you. I do not require your forgiveness. You ought to ask forgiveness from Him given how YOU state YOUR kids are harming the poor cat.

You ought to ask the cat whether that defenceless creature forgives your children!

My conscious is clear.

But as said, keep digging.

It iw odd as the children have been around the car for a while now. And given their ages they can comprehend what is right and wrong at a basic level. Don't harm another living creature.
If it is a daily occurance then punishment needs to change and tactics..naughry step is not effective. If what your did was effective it would show within a week max with kids this age. A 5 year old should not better.
In the meantime ask your BIL to come take the cat and say whats happening. Drop the cat off or ask him to get it by the end if the week.
And then do some reaearch online on effective discipline. Naughty step doesn't really work for most kids and your case proves it.

Wait for the OP to tell you that you have been rude and whatnot....LOL!!!