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Lily Allen - she really is an unpleasant woman isn't she?

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PavlovtheForgetfulCat · 06/07/2009 11:11

And all her music sounds the same, talky shite.

Sorry if you like her but DH was just reading her opinions on various people and she is quite ugly in her opinions. Add this to the other things i have read or seen her say in interviews.

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HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 06/07/2009 13:01

the quotes are just throwaway remarks that an unguarded young woman made without regard to the fact that they woudl be there forever, reprinted over and over again.

A bit like Facebook for the rest of us...

EffieGadsby · 06/07/2009 14:05

Aitch, Lily Allen has and does still describe herself as working class, most recently in only February this year, in an article in the New York Times.

Odd that she doesn't sing so much about the mean hockey fields of Bedales, which would be a slightly more accurate reflection of her background.

ihavenosecrets · 06/07/2009 14:15

I like her.

Kate Nash is awful.

Ewe · 06/07/2009 14:16

I LOVE Lily Allen, think she is fabulous.

I am fairly sure she lived on a council estate for a good proportion of her childhood and yes she did go to posh public schools but she did get expelled from most of them! Don't think she's ever been a jolly hockey sticks type.

AitchTwoOh · 06/07/2009 14:22

"Her Wikipedia entry, she complained, is riddled with lies. Like what? She hopped up to her computer. ?Claims to have grown up with her mother? ? Alison Owen, a film producer; her father, the actor Keith Allen, left when she was 4 ? ?in a working-class environment,? she read. ?That?s true. And attended 13 schools, that?s true.? Embarrassing and alcohol-fueled behavior? ?O.K., kind of true, I guess.? She had to drill down nearly to the bottom to find misinformation: she did not have Kawasaki disease as an infant, doesn?t have Damien Hirst paintings in her bedroom and has ?never been a size 12.?

from the article you mention. i don't really see that as much of a proclamation of salt of the earthy working classness, tbh, she's hardly saying she's loretta lynn. i think if you ask most young people nowadays what working class means, they'd say it meant that their parents worked hard and money was sometimes tight. there is no such thing as society, remember? thank you mrs thatcher.

Rhubarb · 06/07/2009 14:24

If her mum was a film producer and her dad was very famous early on, what was she doing in a council house?

AitchTwoOh · 06/07/2009 14:25

i think her mum became a film producer after the feckless dad left, didn't she? he was a grade one shit.

Ewe · 06/07/2009 14:27

Let's also remember that money doesn't change ones class necessarily. Plenty of working class people in expensive schools IME!

KingRolo · 06/07/2009 14:38

So she is "quite ugly in her opinions". So are lots of people on this thread.

I like Lily Allen. She is different and that's a good thing.

Rhubarb · 06/07/2009 14:40

Who gives a shit about class? Why pick up on someone's class? She is who she is, whether you like her or not. Fair enough.

AitchTwoOh · 06/07/2009 14:44

to be fair, it wasn't like that. pagwatch made the point that she dislikes Lily Allen posing as working class, that's fair enough. although i don't think she does, really.

Rhubarb · 06/07/2009 14:47

And working class people in expensive schools? How do you find out if they're working class, do these schools have a radar?

frankbestfriend · 06/07/2009 14:53

We love Lily in our house.

And I know who I would rather have as an inspiration to my dd- a witty, funny motivated young woman who writes her own music and has an element of individuality. God forbid she could be using Cheryl Cole or Vicky Beckham as a role model- skinny, robotic and fitted with a mouth filter so as to never reveal an actual opinion about anything

muffle · 06/07/2009 14:57

I thought that Jools Holland performance she did was brilliant! I think her music's OK, don't like it enough to buy it - but when I saw that I thought "wow she can actually sing properly live, and hold the audience in the palm of her hand and she looks like she's enjoying herself too": you cannot say that for 99.9% of pop starlets.

She's very young and mouthy - she can be rude - I forgive her for that really. I prefer it to when they are obviously submissive record company fembots who aren't allowed to have opinions.

Ewe · 06/07/2009 14:57

Rhubarb, I was actually responding to the below and pointing out that you can still be working class and go to a public school. Just because her folks had money to spend on her education doesn't instantaneously make her not working class.

"My only gripe with her is her endless pretence to be a good working class girl (all that 'street' rubbish) when she is a public school girl who really could not have been given a more silver spoon squeeze into the entertainment industry. Yet we are all supposed to belive that she is a girl made good."

frankbestfriend · 06/07/2009 14:57

And as for the 'she's not even that pretty' comments, I do hope we are keeping those sort of poisonous opinions away from your dds, hardly a healthy morality to be bestowing upon them.

Unnattractive to men=useless?
And fwiw, I bet she wouldn't touch your dh or his mates with a fecking bargepole.

preciouslillywhite · 06/07/2009 14:59

I love love LOVE Lily Allen. I think she's a great big gobbed opinionated articulate role model for little GIRLS in amongst all the shinyshinycoincoin girls aloud stylee clones...

Sorta wish she hadn't lost quite as much weight tho...

Lizzylou · 06/07/2009 15:35

I quite like her (and Kate Nash).

I find Lily quite refreshing, talented, very pretty, gobby and non-plastic. She is getting a tad too much exposure which can irritate people but she is way less annoying than her Dad.

noddyholder · 06/07/2009 15:37

I quite like the look of her image wise and the songs are 'funny'? But what I have noticed is that she is a magnet for older men.I know several solicitors doctors and the like who really find her attractive pervy old buggers.Whats that about?!?!?

Ewe · 06/07/2009 15:38

Not pretty?

Blardy hell, high standards around here.

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PavlovtheForgetfulCat · 06/07/2009 17:03

Frank - I said that a friend of DHs said she was not that pretty but if you got my Dhs response, he disagreed. And I said she was pretty. Actually.

Don't really know why you bring DD into it, this is an adult conversation between adults, and my conversation between DH and I and his friend was an adult conversation between adults .

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AitchTwoOh · 06/07/2009 18:38

did you say what your dh's response was?

borinbugger · 06/07/2009 18:56

she writes her own songs
'i am a weapon of massive consumption its not my fault it how im programmed to function '
think thats my fav lyric wiity and intellegent not her biggest fan but give her a chance.....def better than girls aloud ,pussycatdolls crap

KingRolo · 06/07/2009 18:59

I agree borninbugger.

But she's only "6/10" according to some bloke and "filthy mouthed" with it so it doesn't matter if she's a talented songwriter does it?

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PavlovtheForgetfulCat · 06/07/2009 19:02

LOL oh dear. DH's score was much much lower.

I shall run away

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