A new Neurodiversity support thread for those with suspected or diagnosed ASD, ADHD and other NDs

[PigPigTrotters]

Yet another thread for neurodivergent mumsnetters.

Lots of links in old threads.

Anyone is welcome, it's not just about autism.

DD's NQT said 'isn't it?' In a South London sentence at parents' evening, & DD says 'h-aitch' instead of 'aitch' because she's learnt it from her TA. These are the same people insisting she starts sentences with a fronted adverbial to make her writing better isn't it?
I'm loosing the will to live.
(Pedant)

I like a nice succinct innit, personally.

'Isn't it?' is used at random to end sentences - I hear this when I speak to people in the Indian call centre at work. When I first moved to London I didn't understand why people kept responding to a statement with 'Oh is it?'. Well, yes - of course it bloody is!

Am loosing the will to live isn't it?

I'd like to declare myself an independent state of me isn't it? So I don't have to deal, y'know what I'm sayin? Coz I'm loosin it blud - y'get me? Serious tho.

As far as I remember, and please murder me if I'm wrong, but most south Asian languages tend to have an all-purpose tag question which translates to "isn't it", and doesn't change. So when speaking English as a second language, people tend to retain the all-purpose tag question, and it's become part of the MLE dialect.

Autisticrat that makes total sense! You learn something new every day.

Ooh, history of the English language, one of my obsessions

Autisticrat is quite right, many languages have a "tag question" feature (n'est-ce pas?, nicht wahr? in French and German) but they are a particular feature of south Asian languages and have made their way into the sociolect known as MLE (Multicultural London English) which has replaced Estuary which itself replaced a Cockney sociolect.

Someone did a whole thesis on it and I wish I was her gul.gu.se/public/pp/public_courses/course57247/published/1370048531604/resourceId/23419239/content/UploadedResources/WestlundA_ENC03.pdf

Faith your toy might not be too wrong - "bright" can be used as an adverb as a literary mechanism www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/bright_2

Sociolect! That's the word I was looking for. It's far too long since I obsessed over this stuff

Blud.

Yes, proofread and copy-edit and love it! Use my annoying powers for good :D

It's a lot easier to be kind to yourself with a diagnosis. I find it easier to say no, to make space for myself, and to explain things to other people. I don't beat myself up about barely managing two kids and a perfect part-time job. I have a very easy life compared to many of you, mostly due to my extraordinary husband who has been supporting me for 17 yrs in so many ways. It's still hard, and it's easier to know why it's hard, and what we can do that will be effective as support, rather than guessing all the time.

PS. Is it? is the tag question I grew up with. Had to drop that fast in the UK!

Slightly random change of direction - Polter would you mind sharing the types of adjustment that can be made? I wondered about this but other than "please make everyone leave me alone and don't hassle me about getting to work on time" which is not really reasonable I can't work out what would let me return to an employed position. I suppose not having to answer the phone would be one and also letting me flick through the etymology dictionary when I get stressed!

I've had to give up being a pedant.
I know language is about communication & Shakespeare made words up & kids are playing with language & that's great. As long as I can do it my way & not have to join in with everyone else.
Thanks for the info about MLE etc. All very interesting. But when you've got that on the one hand & Govian education policy on the other & an as yet to be diagnosed Aspie daughter who talks posh & lives on a council estate with a mother who is quite clearly from another PLANET it all gets a bit much sometimes. I don't know how I ended up here

Hi Silvery - haven't seen you around for years! Hope you're doing OK.

I think those question tags are highly regional. Even the German one. I haven't heard Nicht wahr? here but we get Oder? (Direct translation = or? Sense-making translation = Or not?)

As an ESL teacher I can tell you the function of question tags is to make it seem less like you're assuming you know better than somebody else and to invite them to agree with you which forms social bonds, apparently.

I think that deserves . Or . Or . Or all three.

Adjustments for disability is actually my area of work - I have a huge list of things if anyone would like a look?

I have a bunch for my MH diagnosis but they are mostly sensory I now realise... I work from home all week apart from one day, which leaves me knackered for 24 hours due to stressful tube journey and having to speak to people

I'd love to know what might make things easier for me at college/university - I often get asked what adjustments can be made, but other than leaving the classroom or not participating in group work when I'm not feeling up to it, and having a separate room for exams, I don't know what to ask for.

Hooray Polter! Well done

I'm thinking of asking for reasonable adjustments at home. I'm going to include silencers for the DC, a rule that nothing happens without at least two days notice, and my own little room full of cushions and chocolate.

Is it normal to take a good couple of days to recover from a meltdown? Had a particularly long drawn out one on Monday night, and still feel fragile (for want of a better word) and having to be careful that I don't slip back into it. It doesn't help that I hurt my ankle, knee and hip (not deliberately), so I'm in pain as well.