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Zoomchat with Helen Joyce on her new book

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JuliaMumsnet · 20/07/2021 12:24

Hello

We’re delighted to announce a Mumsnet Zoomchat with senior staff journalist at The Economist Helen Joyce about her new book 'Trans'.

To quote the book jacket: "Gender identity ideology is about more than Twitter storms and using the right pronouns. In just ten years, laws, company policies, school and university curricula, sport, medical protocols, and the media have been reshaped to privilege self-declared gender identity over biological sex."

"People are being shamed and silenced for attempting to understand the consequences of redefining ‘man’ and ‘woman’. While compassion for transgender lives is well-intentioned, it is stifling much-needed inquiry into the significance of our bodies, particularly with regard to women’s rights, fairness in sport, same sex attraction and children’s development."

Helen will be chatting with Mumsnet HQ and answering your questions on Tuesday 27 July at 8pm, and you can book your place now by registering here.

Please note We can only take questions from Zoomchat attendees on the night - please don’t ask questions in advance as we can’t promise we’ll be able to put them forwards.

Thanks
MNHQ

Zoomchat with Helen Joyce on her new book
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/07/2021 14:46

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Articus · 21/07/2021 17:37

Thanks for arranging this! A recording would be greatly appreciated as I’m not able to make the zoom.

livingwitheds1984 · 21/07/2021 19:54

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Wildgarlicpesto · 21/07/2021 20:05

Oh dear me! Is that the best you can manage @livingwitheds1984 ?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/07/2021 20:20

Apparently! How original.

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 21/07/2021 20:30

Brilliant. Thanks Helen and @mnhq!

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 22/07/2021 14:01

For anyone interested in a discussion of some reviews of Helen Joyce's book ahead of the Zoomchat:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4298023-David-Aaronovitch-Review-of-Helen-Joyces-Book

morningtoncrescent62 · 22/07/2021 14:48

Thanks for organising this, MNHQ. Looking forward to it.

MedusasButterDish · 22/07/2021 20:03

Is anyone else on yet?

MedusasButterDish · 22/07/2021 20:04

Damn. I've just seen the date change.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 23/07/2021 07:21

@MedusasButterDish

Damn. I've just seen the date change.
Date change?
EmbarrassingAdmissions · 23/07/2021 10:07

Date change?

There was an initial error (as per first few posts) - 27 July is the correct date.

MedusasButterDish · 23/07/2021 10:37

I signed up almost as soon as I saw the invitation, and put the event in my diary at that time! Too eager...

GNCQ · 24/07/2021 23:41

Ah this looks great. I'm sad to say I can't make the zoom.
Will it be uploaded /recorded so anyone can see it?

ScreamingBeans · 25/07/2021 00:03

How are you going to do the questions, do they have to be submitted beforehand? And if so, how/ where?

thanks

MidEugh · 25/07/2021 14:52

Have been reading about how Helen Joyce has shafted Jennifer Bilek over the last couple of days.

Anyone want to ask Helen about this? I know some of you here in the past have called Jennifer a conspiracy theorist, but I am always interested in the 'follow the money' and Helen has used some of Jennifer's research within her book without citing her research:

www.the11thhourblog.com/post/breaking-and-entering?postId=1dc2e2eb-a38d-4eed-9c0a-9bc3e43cfd12

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 25/07/2021 14:55

@ScreamingBeans

How are you going to do the questions, do they have to be submitted beforehand? And if so, how/ where?

thanks

Please note We can only take questions from Zoomchat attendees on the night - please don’t ask questions in advance as we can’t promise we’ll be able to put them forwards.
ScreamingBeans · 25/07/2021 18:50

Thanks EA

JuliaMumsnet · 26/07/2021 09:29

@ludothedog

Will it be recorded so we can watch later?
Hello @ludothedog - we are planning to record the session and like all our Zoomchats it will be available to watch again for our premium users.
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JuliaMumsnet · 26/07/2021 09:35

@JustcameoutGC

Good move MNHQ. Is this penance for splitting the board?

I went to another event with Helen Joyce this evening, she is incredible, makes you feel smarter just listening. I strongly advise you to sign up.

@JuliaMumsnet will MNHQ also be answering questions on the evening?

Hi @JustcameoutGC - the Zoomchat will be centred around Helen's book but if you have a burning question for Justine that is relevant feel free to ask it and we'll see if we get around to it.
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JuliaMumsnet · 26/07/2021 09:39

Hi everyone - you should have received an email asking you to make sure that you registered for this event with your Mumsnet-associated email address. If you registered with an email address that is different to the email address associated with your Mumsnet account, you must re-register and cancel your old registration, or you won't be able to attend.

Check your emails for more info. Sorry about this extra step - and thanks for your understanding!

MNHQ

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 26/07/2021 12:27

@JuliaMumsnet

Hi everyone - you should have received an email asking you to make sure that you registered for this event with your Mumsnet-associated email address. If you registered with an email address that is different to the email address associated with your Mumsnet account, you must re-register and cancel your old registration, or you won't be able to attend.

Check your emails for more info. Sorry about this extra step - and thanks for your understanding!

MNHQ

I don't have an invitation and I realise that that is because I registered with my Zoom account details rather than the MN account details.

Sorry, MNHQ

BingBongSong · 26/07/2021 18:17

Is this why I've just had an email saying my registration has been cancelled?