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The Battle Hymn of The Tiger Mother - Webchat with author, Amy Chua - Today 1 - 2pm.

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RachelMumsnet · 04/05/2011 14:26

The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother was met with an avalanche of debate on its publication in January. We're delighted Amy Chua will be joining us at MNHQ on Tuesday 7 June, 1-2pm, to discuss the book and even more that Bloomsbury have agreed to give away 200 copies of The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother to Mumsnetters in advance of the discussion.

Amy Chua's daughters, Sophia and Louisa (Lulu) were polite, interesting and helpful, they were two years ahead of their classmates in maths and had exceptional musical abilities. But Sophia and Lulu were never allowed to attend a sleepover, be in a school play, choose their own extracurricular activities, get any grade less than an A, and not be the #1 student in every subject (except gym and drama). And they had to practise their instruments for hours every day, as well as in school breaks and on family holidays.

The Chinese-parenting model certainly seemed to produce results. But what happens when you do not tolerate disobedience and are confronted by a screaming child who would sooner freeze outside in the cold than be forced to play the piano?

In The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, Amy Chua relates her experiences raising her children the 'Chinese way', and how dutiful, patient Sophia flourished under the regime and how tenacious, hot-tempered Lulu rebelled. It was supposed to be a story of how Chinese parents are better at raising kids than Western ones. But instead, it's about a bitter clash of cultures, a fleeting taste of glory, and how you can be humbled by a 13-year-old.

Put the date in your diary to join Amy at lunchtime on 7 June.

For more information about Amy Chua and The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother please click here.

JustineMumsnet · 07/06/2011 14:09

Thanks everyone and Amy for rattling through and for some really great answers. (We had a sneaking suspicion you'd have done some thorough preparation Grin). We're off now to source some choc chip macademia nut biscuits...

megapixels · 07/06/2011 14:10

Loved reading your book and getting to "know" your family. I was so pleased to hear about Sophia and Harvard. Will be rooting for your girls and hope they have every success in their futures.

AmyChua · 07/06/2011 14:10

Thank you so much everyone for giving me a chance and being so friendly! There have been some tough moments in the last six months, but I have learned a lot from the firestorm as well.

Our family plans for the summer are to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Goodbye.

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Momshapesworld · 07/06/2011 14:13

That is very kind of you Amy and thank you. I will bring along your book with me just in case I can get your autograph on it! You are a very good writer and look forward to be reading more such stuff on cultures and parenting and everything in between!

southofthethames · 07/06/2011 14:13

Slight deviation from Amy's answers here - sorry to hijack the webchat - but I feel I have to respond to CrapolaDeVille's comments about Chinese culture here. Cruelty to animals, women and children, and harsh treatment of prisoners are NOT unique to Chinese culture, neither are they specifically Chinese. The practices you describe are as shocking to a Chinese person as they are a non-Chinese person. I suspect lots of them came about as a result of a vast, vast country trying to adjust from rule by emperors to invasion by foreign countries, to war, then civil war, then communist totalitarianism, then liberal capitalism (and there are many cities in China more capitalist and a total free market than any part of Britain, despite the communist government). You will find equally shocking practices in large Western and African countries going through these changes too - some worse. I was doing some research on the Industrial Revolution recently and was horrified to find that routine cruelty to women and children in the workplace in those days amounted to little more than daily sexual abuse and brutalisation - for very little pay. And this was in Britain.

Sorry, Amy. Back to biscuits and violins, much nicer.

strandednomore · 07/06/2011 14:14

Thanks Amy (although you didn't answer my question Sad) - I don't believe for a moment that your family will be doing absolutely NOTHING this summer Grin

HelenMumsnet · 07/06/2011 14:16

Hello. Justine's far too shy to mention it but both she and Amy Chua will be discussing parenting on Newsnight tonight. Do tune in!

southofthethames · 07/06/2011 14:18

Thanks HelenMumsnet!

JemimaMop · 07/06/2011 14:58

How did the discussion at Hay go?

Dunlurking · 07/06/2011 15:58

Thank you so much for some wonderfully amusing, as well as thoughtful, answers and thank you for answering my question.

Have really enjoyed reading your book and this webchat thread. I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip over. And thank you for the free book. I had been waiting for it to come out in a cheaper paperback edition but I will still be buying a copy - for my mother - as mine is too precious to lend out Grin

lionheart · 07/06/2011 16:54

Thanks Amy.

southofthethames · 07/06/2011 22:16

Thanks for organising this, everyone at Mumsnet.

superoz · 07/06/2011 22:27

Hear, hear southofthethames! Smile

southofthethames · 07/06/2011 22:37

:-) Superoz, if you want to hear a bit more about the parenting discussion, Amy and Justine are on BBC2's Newsnight at the moment, after the (probably depresssing) discussion about the NHS I think.

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ByThePowerOfGreyskull · 08/06/2011 08:27

Thank you for great discussion.
Saw you on newsnight last night and was really interested that the producers had obviously wanted a bun fight and the thing is that anyone who just wants the best for their kids have more in common than the differences they have in actual techniques.

Cortina · 08/06/2011 11:38

Is there a thread on the programme last night? Thanks

OhBuggerandArse · 09/06/2011 11:28

An interesting article which touches on the book, but also on Asian/western parenting and cultural disjunctions in general here.

Dunlurking · 09/06/2011 17:23

That article was fascinating. Thank you for posting the link Grin

southofthethames · 09/06/2011 18:42

Actually, if you read Lee Iacocca's biography, his dad sounds a lot like a Tiger Mum. (He's the guy who helped develop the Ford Mustang, then joined Chrysler and pulled them back from the brink to become a successful corporation).

vanimal · 09/06/2011 18:45

Gutted to have missed the webchat, I read Amy's book this weekend and loved it.

southofthethames · 09/06/2011 20:28

Vanimal: all the stuff from the webchat is on this thread. Was there anything vastly different you were hoping to ask? There are quite a lot of interviews with her on the web - including her own website. Did you see the Newsnight slot?

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