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The Battle Hymn of The Tiger Mother - Webchat with author, Amy Chua - Today 1 - 2pm.

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RachelMumsnet · 04/05/2011 14:26

The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother was met with an avalanche of debate on its publication in January. We're delighted Amy Chua will be joining us at MNHQ on Tuesday 7 June, 1-2pm, to discuss the book and even more that Bloomsbury have agreed to give away 200 copies of The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother to Mumsnetters in advance of the discussion.

Amy Chua's daughters, Sophia and Louisa (Lulu) were polite, interesting and helpful, they were two years ahead of their classmates in maths and had exceptional musical abilities. But Sophia and Lulu were never allowed to attend a sleepover, be in a school play, choose their own extracurricular activities, get any grade less than an A, and not be the #1 student in every subject (except gym and drama). And they had to practise their instruments for hours every day, as well as in school breaks and on family holidays.

The Chinese-parenting model certainly seemed to produce results. But what happens when you do not tolerate disobedience and are confronted by a screaming child who would sooner freeze outside in the cold than be forced to play the piano?

In The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, Amy Chua relates her experiences raising her children the 'Chinese way', and how dutiful, patient Sophia flourished under the regime and how tenacious, hot-tempered Lulu rebelled. It was supposed to be a story of how Chinese parents are better at raising kids than Western ones. But instead, it's about a bitter clash of cultures, a fleeting taste of glory, and how you can be humbled by a 13-year-old.

Put the date in your diary to join Amy at lunchtime on 7 June.

For more information about Amy Chua and The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother please click here.

housemum · 12/05/2011 11:27

Perhaps it should be DD2's bedtime story? When she next wants to call me "the meanest mummy in the world" she might realise I'm actually pretty lenient?

Dunlurking · 12/05/2011 11:52

Got mine this morning and felt I should finally join the site Blush Excuse the maiden posting - may not have the hang of smilies on here yet. And how do you do the crossing out, but can still read it, stuff?

I can totally see where Amy Chua is coming from - I grew up in SE Asia but not Asian myself) and all the upper/middle class educated Chinese Mums had similar characteristics, from what I have heard of the book. Really looking forward to the read and the webchat :)

housemum · 12/05/2011 12:00

Welcome dunlurking, like the name! If you scroll down to where the smiley faces are, it tells you how to do striking out, italics and bold

I'm looking forward to the book, just hope it doesn't reinforce a racial stereotype - I'm sure we've all heard that "they all" push their children "over there" (usually said by my mum after reading the Express, same way that all Indian children have to be doctors and accountants)

Dunlurking · 12/05/2011 12:21

Thanks for the welcome and help housemum.
[Sets off to pay attention to mumsnet instructions instead of winging it]

Hmmm well I'm married to an asian man who couldn't care less if his children fail an exam is the last person to push his children Hmm so think the racial steotypes got confused in this house anyway :o

SpringHeeledJack · 12/05/2011 12:43

Yay! got mine too

I will be reading it for tips attentively (my home ed children have kicked up a fuss today about learning to tell the time- for the fifteenth go Wink)

and I am glad to see the word "funny" cropping up three times on the blurb on the cover. I skimmed an excerpt in the Guardian and heard a bit on the radio and thought it was hilarious- then I read a bit of tutting, so thought I ought to be vaguely cross about it instead

now I have permish (from India Knight, even) to be amused, I shall enjoy reading it. In fact am going to select highlights to read to the dcs as well, as a comprehension exercise...

megapixels · 12/05/2011 13:05

Got mine today and so pleased about it. I keep taking peeks at it and have actually already started even though I keep stopping myself because I want to read it in one long session tonight undisturbed. I soooo get where Amy Chua is coming from, I've seen loads of what she describes.

ReshapeWhileDamp · 12/05/2011 13:06

Hooray! Free book in post this morning! I promise to have read it by the live bookchat. Which is going to be, um, interesting, something tells me... Wink

ArfurBrain · 12/05/2011 14:12

Gosh, got my free copy this morning. Am I STILL allowed to be Hmm about it? {ingrate}

lionheart · 12/05/2011 15:09

Just got mine. This could be interesting!

elkiedee · 12/05/2011 16:35

I think the book's very funny, borrowed it from the library and was lucky enough to put the first reservation on a new copy. I emailed on Friday and there were still copies on Monday, so am hoping to have got lucky - won't see post till tonight.

DuchessEm · 12/05/2011 16:42

Got mine today, too! Just need to wait until the DCs are in bed so I can get started on it!

southofthethames · 12/05/2011 16:56

Have started reading the book now and what a disappointment (lol), she's not actually as dire as the newspaper articles make her out to be (but that wouldn't sell newspapers now, would it?). Even pokes fun at herself...."daughter could do set theory.....husband translates that to mean she draws two overlapping circles".

She's quite entertaining, the book is a good laugh in some places, heck, a lot of it sounds almost like Mumsnet discussions!!!

If people are recommending Gina Ford and believing nonsense like "during breastfeeding, mothers who eat the following list of foods may cause problems for the baby..." (and Ford goes on to list just about every fruit and vegetable under the sun which leads you to reckon she wants mums to eat only potato and carrots) you could do worse than have a read of Chua's book and laugh off the extreme episodes and try some of the other (tame) methods which she mentions worked. There's a funny story of a child whose parents only expected her to practise the piano for seven minutes a day.

I still hate the term "Chinese mother" which sounds a bit bigoted even if she does spend a whole paragraph explaining that it's not everyone whose Chinese, dads can be Chinese mothers too, and that Russian, Irish, Jewish, AfroCarribean, Indian, etc parents can be "Chinese Mothers " too. Fine, then why not call it "Tiger Parent"?? (but the term is my only gripe about her book). In Chua's case, it sounds like her dad was more of the "Chinese mother" and you can understand why they didn't allow tv - when her parents arrived in Boston, they had no money to pay for heating for 2 years, so you can understand they weren't going to fork out for an expensive device (at the time) that guzzled almost as much electricity as a small radiator.

I think I might go off and Google those Suzuki books now......might help me learn how to play the violin.....

Blatherskite · 12/05/2011 17:33

I got one! Grin

It came in a plastic bag from Royal mail with an apology about the state of the parcel but it's here and it's read-able.

Just got to finish my other book first but as DH is "treating" me to 3 days in a static caravan soon, I should have plenty of time :)

Meglet · 12/05/2011 17:43

Thank you, mine arrived today.

Will be getting some tips from it Grin.

Cat2405 · 12/05/2011 18:22

Thank you; got mine today too. Having seen some interviews with the author and read the reviews am keen to read the book to see what I think.

superoz · 12/05/2011 21:48

Yay! Mine arrived today. Going to start reading it.

steffibabes · 12/05/2011 22:46

Thanks Mumsnet. My 2nd book freebee :)

elkiedee · 13/05/2011 08:45

Mine arrived yesterday too, thanks Mumsnet and Bloomsbury.

sakura · 14/05/2011 06:11

i LOVED this book. She's laugh-a-minute

pinkthechaffinch · 14/05/2011 07:42

Yes, it's much funnier than it came across in the newspaper extracts I'd read.

but where does she get the time to oversee her daughters and write books?

janx · 14/05/2011 07:53

Got mine yesterday - looking forward to reading it on the tube today!

SpringHeeledJack · 14/05/2011 11:16

I was saving mine till I'd finished Ian McEwan page-a-night yawnfest

however have found it irresistible, and keep dipping in

...it is already having an effect. I booed yesterday when cack handed ds was thumping out "Canon" on the keyboard as I was trying to update my facebook status completing some important work on the pc

Wink
jgbmum · 14/05/2011 13:35

I've been sent a copy too, thank you! Will start reading it this weekend.

Bookswapper · 14/05/2011 19:58

Thank you...will start reading asap!

Springheeledjack made me laugh already! Good work!

Dunlurking · 16/05/2011 08:11

Finished it, and had a family debate over tea yesterday with dh refusing to read it but basically being horrified and dcs volunteering to do longer music practice (but not 6 hours!)

Where can we discuss the book? Is this thread essentially for posting the questions for Amy Chua?