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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

OP posts:
Cabrinha · 10/03/2016 20:22

Oooooooh, Somerville you know what that mentioning you formally is all about, don't you?

He's got MENTIONITIS!!!! That's good 😀

TheFormidableMrsC · 10/03/2016 22:50

Just stopped by to wish you loads of luck for your not-a-date tomorrow Somerville...I remain very excited for you Smile Flowers

Somerville · 10/03/2016 23:19

Sorry to post and run earlier. DS upset this evening after stupid thing said by rugby coach about every child's dad needing to sign up to come to training either Thursday evenings or Sundays because he needs more help. He needs a brain and some sensitivity, more like.

Dungandbother - I hope he notices you soon. Maybe he already has but isn't good at showing it?

Cabrinha - Ooh I got all excited reading that. Maybe he does have mentionitis. Or maybe he's just never heard of fedex. Grin

Right, I need beauty sleep.

OP posts:
amarmai · 11/03/2016 00:15

have an affair and get him out of your head. Keep him away from your kids and hang on to your inheritance.

girlinacoma · 11/03/2016 00:18

Any updates OP? Hope it went well x

TheFormidableMrsC · 11/03/2016 01:09

amarmai, that's helpful Hmm. OP is very gently stepping out on one date which has taken a lot of courage for her to do. What an odd comment.

girlinacoma...date is tomorrow Friday evening. We'll all be here waiting with baited fingertips...Smile

DancingDinosaur · 11/03/2016 01:23

Are you widowed amarmai? Or just doling out advice on what you think widows should do? Hmm

notonyurjellybellynelly · 11/03/2016 03:58

That phone call he made a few pages ago Smile

Does anyone else wish they'd been on the receiving end of it Smile Smile

MaryRobinson · 11/03/2016 04:46

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Goingtobeawesome · 11/03/2016 06:02

Good luck today

I've reported the horrible comment.

GColdtimer · 11/03/2016 06:58

There is always one who likes to try and spoil a lovely, supportive thread Hmm

Good luck today, talked to my wedding friend last night and she said good luck too!!

PestilentialCat · 11/03/2016 07:17

Armarmai "hang on to your inheritance" - what's that supposed to mean? She's going on a date, not throwing herself into an unsuitable second marriage and even if she were WTF has it to do with you?

diggerdigsdogs · 11/03/2016 07:50

What a lovely thread :)

Good luck Somerville.

Somerville · 11/03/2016 10:04

Peace and love everyone. Flowers

Wouldn't have re-joined mn if I wasn't pretty sure I'd be able to remember that it ultimately it's just words on a screen. And I was expecting a flaming when I wrote my post.

Best friend has just texted to say she'll take over babysitting duties from my parents, rather then sending her AP round, so that I don't need to worry about stuff at home. V nice of her - im sure it's just a coincidence that she'll be perfectly placed to pump me for all the details, right Wink Grin

Train just getting in. Will update tonight.

OP posts:
TheFormidableMrsC · 11/03/2016 11:28

Good luck Somerville...have a truly wonderful time Smile

I also vote classics

notonyurjellybellynelly · 11/03/2016 11:58

Here's to a really nice evening Wine

AnotherEmma · 11/03/2016 12:01

Have a lovely time! Can't wait to hear how it went Smile

BeautyQueenFromMars · 11/03/2016 12:14

I've just read this whole thread and I'm all emotional now! In a good way, obviously.

Somerville, I hope you have a really lovely non-date this evening. You sound lovely, he sounds lovely, it's all lovely Grin.

doceodocere · 11/03/2016 13:09

Ooh, it's Friday! have a lovely time, Somerville

Somerville · 11/03/2016 14:31

You are all lovely, too Grin

Anotheremma thanks for what you said yesterday about telling friend/colleague. It made me think, and I've now arranged to have lunch with her next week to tell her what's going on. Hopefully by then I'll have some idea of what's going on...

Lovely man text asking which train home I'm booked on. Told him I can get on any. Him: what's the latest one you could get? I told him last one goes at 11ish, by we're meeting at 5 and afaik, first not-a-dates don't last 6 hours! Him: I hate to break it to you Somer, but I've checked Debretts and they definitely do. It's one of the most important not-a-date conventions.
Isn't he lovely? Smile
God I need to figure out his flaws and concentrate really, really hard on them.

And also, I'm very very nervous and finding it hard to concentrate in these bloody boring meetings.

OP posts:
AnotherEmma · 11/03/2016 14:38

You're welcome, glad you're meeting her for lunch Smile

And yes he is totally lovely! Grin

Deep breaths. You've met him before and it went brilliantly. All will be fine. More than fine!

Cabrinha · 11/03/2016 14:49

Oh not-a-dates last ages, because you can't end them. Seriously. It's the not-a-date drawback.

My lovely widower and I sat on my sofa watching a not-a-date DVD.
I couldn't ask him to stay - because it wasn't a date!
I couldn't ask him to leave - because I didn't want him to.

I sat with his arm round me, my head on his shoulder, pretending to be asleep as it was the only way I could keep him there without asking him to stay. Because it was not-a-date.

We drifted in and out of sleep until 08:00 when I did a big fake "OMG!"
(I've since admitted to the fake sleep!)

Sorry to be all about me on the tenuous connection that he was a widower... Grin

But at some point in the early hours, he kissed my "sleeping" head, lightly. I really thought he might say "I love you" (he didn't). But I felt loved.

This all only happened because it was not-a-date so we couldn't just shag Grin. I'm really pleased it happened that way, it was an amazing sleepless night.

Not-a-dates are the best.

And you know, I'm worried a bit that we're putting pressure on this / you, with out hat talk. But we're just rooting for you, and getting to this point is positive wherever it goes Flowers

Hope he likes his future step dog Wink I'm off to see mine tonight!

AnotherEmma · 11/03/2016 14:59

Cabrinha you've just said in the same breath that you don't want to put too much pressure on and you hope he likes his future step dog Grin LOL

AnotherEmma · 11/03/2016 15:00

Oops missed a word.
"in the same breath post"

Slowtrain2dawn · 11/03/2016 15:01

Have a wonderful not-a-date.
You both sound lovely ( not overused at all) and really well matched. He knows his MBTI, Impressive!