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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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tragicomicadherent · 08/03/2016 13:41

Love this thread, thanks for the in depth update OP and please keep us posted!

gruffaloshmuffalo · 08/03/2016 13:52

OP that's lovely! I hope you have a wonderful time on Friday

TwoTwentyGowerRoad · 08/03/2016 13:54

Just want to say it's lovely to read a positive thread. Not place marking at all, nooooooooo Grin

Jenijena · 08/03/2016 14:10

Your post about your chat made me all smiley :) have a lovely time on Friday.

LarkDescending · 08/03/2016 14:10

Just read the whole thread and so excited for you OP.

I met my lovely man through a shared activity a year or so after his wife had died. I knew he was special early on, but he was clearly nowhere near ready to think about anything other than friendship (which was fine with me and entirely understandable). We gradually got to know each other as part of our activity group and then, in time, started seeing one another outside the group. We have taken things slowly and gently and it's been great. There are still sad days and bumps in the road, but for the most part he has a rediscovered spring in his step, and a smile on his face, which all around him (including his adult daughter) are delighted to see.

I can't for the life of me see why anyone should judge you for being open to moving forward. I think it's wonderful and hope you have a brilliant time on Friday. Looking forward to updates!

Somerville · 08/03/2016 14:27

Your responses are all so lovely [happy] ... I hope he doesn't turn out to be a dick, and this remains a happy thread. Couldn't cope with any serious drama in my life at this stage tbh, so I think I'll go off him quickly if he's not as lovely and sorted as he seems.

Cabrinha, it's lovely that you're planning on inviting your Fiance's PIL's to the wedding. I'm sure that will mean a lot to them, whether or not they end up attending.

I've had a gutting email from DD2's teacher- 'concerns about her (academic) progress'. Sad Best friend called straight afterwards, so telling her about lovely man a bit derailed by discussing DD2 and me getting het up about this is why kids need 2 parents. Anyway, told her eventually and she burst into tears, then sobbed that this was very bittersweet. Bless. She's an INFJ like the lovely man. He cries easily too, I reckon (judging that from the content of his creative work). Then she asked if she could help with any logistics Smile

I've written the rest of the day off in terms of getting any work done, and am going between reading articles on how to help DD2 and day-to-evening fashion tips. Confused

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LotsofDots · 08/03/2016 14:40

Good luck on Friday, what a nice thread to read x

AnotherEmma · 08/03/2016 14:49

How old is DD2?

GColdtimer · 08/03/2016 15:41

So glad to hear your dating update, that all sounds very promising and exciting.

It's not uncommon for bereaved children to fall behind a bit. Try not to worry too much until you get a bit more information.

I am so glad your friend was happy for you, bittersweet is a term I can relate to and have felt it a lot over the years.

Somerville · 08/03/2016 17:20

DD2 is 9 and in year 4. I thought she was through the bereavement-dip, that happened after she missed a lot of time from school. But apparently she's scored lowest in the year in a maths test. (It's a high achieving school, so that doesn't necessarily mean she's very far behind where she should be.) I've replied to say that I'm more interested in her raw scores than a comparison with the others, particularly given the circumstances. Awaiting those.

Good news is she's come out fairly happy, despite hearing the result of the test in class. Distracted her now with asking her to pick out an outfit from my wardrobe that will look nice for both work meetings and 'dinner with friends' on Friday. She picked out the dress I wore to the launch last week, and that seemed to have a bloody miraculous effect, so she can remain my stylist! (It was a navy dress that I hadn't worn in ages. I'd been planning on an lbd but she said that I shouldn't wear black or people might think I was feeling sad about Daddy; how insightful is that? I don't think I have anything to worry about with that one, she's stuffed to the gills with compassion and creativity. Ultimately much more important than times tables!)

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Goingtobeawesome · 08/03/2016 17:32

So engrossed in this thread I forgot to put the cheese on the lasagne and then burnt myself when I checked it on.

Hope all goes well [flowersWine.

springydaffs · 08/03/2016 19:06

Can't seem to post on this thread! Says ' message invalid'. Testing!

springydaffs · 08/03/2016 19:10

Right, well sorry about that! My nugget of wisdom was thank goodness it's not him asking for your star sign so he can do a chart! Just let the thing unfold..

Sounds absolutely lovely Somer

springydaffs · 08/03/2016 19:11

Just happened again, had to cut that post down before it would send.

AnotherEmma · 08/03/2016 19:23

Your DD sounds amazing! I know it's important for her to do well in school but I think I would find it hard to give a fuck stuff about her maths test in the circumstances. Especially given that she is only 9 FFS! (If they were mock GCSEs it would be different!) I totally agree with you that compassion and creativity are much more important than maths Wink

It's probably a bit early for this, given that you haven't even been on the date yet, but have you thought about when and how you're going to tell the girls that you're dating? I'm guessing you'll keep it quiet to begin with, but I'd hate you to worry about telling them or feel it's something you have to hide for too long.

BeachysFlipFlops · 08/03/2016 19:48

Love the fact that your Friday date is responsible for Going's lasagna being cheese less Grin

This is a lovely thread, good luck.

Goingtobeawesome · 08/03/2016 19:55

The lasagne did have cheese. I chucked it on and burnt myself in the process!!

GColdtimer · 08/03/2016 20:53

Your dd sounds lovely. And my once "gifted" dd is now only "average" under the new crazy curriculum so you are right to look at the actual tests.

Somerville · 08/03/2016 20:53

DSis turned up for a chat Smile. All good.

Emma, I wrote the who gives a stuff about maths thing with a wry smile, as DH was a mathematician. He'd be freaking about this. Freaking. It's funny that the thought of this can now make me smile.

I haven't thought about when to tell the DC anything. (I have a DS (11) as well as the DD's.) You're right that it feels way too early. Lovely guy might not stand up to closer inspection. Or I might not! But I did make a deal with DD1 that she'd tell me about anyone she liked and I'd do the same. So if (huge if) it turns into something then I'd need to tell her sharpish. Would discuss it with her grief counsellor first. At the moment, aside from this maths crapola, they're all doing pretty good. So I don't want to bring in another variable.

Going - Erm, sorry?! I fear this thread will be very dull until Friday, so everyone's dinners and hands should be safe. I'm just flailing about what to wear and trying to catch up with prep for the meetings on Friday. But I promise I will update if any news - vague hope of another phone call. Not brave enough to call him, though I should have good excuse for a project-related email tomorrow. (My life is so exotic, I could be a rockstar. Counting down the hours til I can send a work email Hmm. )

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HelenaDove · 09/03/2016 01:59

A while ago Good Housekeeping interviewed four widows about how they were coping One of them had remarried.....one was engaged.

One of them said "it has taught me that its possible for sadness and happiness to exist together in the heart at the same time."

Somerville your DD sounds great. Enjoy yourself on Friday Thanks

Somerville · 09/03/2016 10:31

That's a nice way of thinking about it, Helena, thanks.

And, re Friday; I hope I will!

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Somerville · 09/03/2016 14:13

He just phoned again. Smile Lovely chat. We agreed that the word date is scary and Friday is not-a-date in the same way that George R R Martin has a not-a-blog. (It is a blog!) And he asked me to recommend him something to read, since I'm already reading something he recommended. Lovely (and clever) man, setting up easy conversation for Friday.
And I'm officially using the word lovely too often. But he's lovely!

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Cabrinha · 09/03/2016 14:22

Hmmmmm.
I had a first not-a-date with my widower last October.
We're engaged now.
Just sayin' Grin
I'm a big fan of the not-a-date Wink

Enjoy!

AnotherEmma · 09/03/2016 14:40

😍❤️

GColdtimer · 09/03/2016 15:00

You know we are all going to be waiting for an update on Friday don't you. Grin

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