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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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Somerville · 09/03/2016 15:27

Not-a-date in October and engaged now?October '15 or October'14? Fast work either way, Cab, impressive!

Though, all these marriage anecdotes are not helping me manage my expectations for my not-a-date Grin

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Flossiesmummy · 09/03/2016 15:48

He sounds lovely! I'm sure your DH would want you to be happy too.

If something happened to me, I'd want my husband to date again at some point.

Good luck on your not-a-date. Thanks

NisekoWhistler · 09/03/2016 16:13

What a lovely thread. Sending you good luck for Friday. Thanks

Cabrinha · 09/03/2016 16:22

Yeah, um, that'd be Oct 2015 Blush
If it sounds less nuts, we've set a wedding date that's mid 2018 Grin

As a widower from a loving, long and successful marriage - he's every positive about relationships.

I'm the cynical divorcée Wink

It's OK to just go on a not-a-date though Flowers

IpreferToblerone · 09/03/2016 16:31

Another poster sending good wishes to you Somerville on your not-a-date 💐

Potterwolfie · 09/03/2016 16:45

Can't wait for an update on the not-a-date on Friday Grin, wishing you lots of fun! Just as there's no time limit on grief, neither should there be any restrictions on when you're ready to not-date again.

Your DDs comment about the black dress brought tears to my eyes, what a sweet soul she is. Star

Somerville · 09/03/2016 17:35

Awww thank you everyone Smile

Of course I will update on Fri. I don't think we'd have got our acts together for aaaages if this pit of hopeless romantics vipers hadn't urged me to email him.

He followed me on twitter this afternoon, which is all work stuff, apart from a pic of my dog from a few weeks ago. He texted to say she is gorgeous. She's really not, so I'm pretending he really means that I'm gorgeous Grin God, I hope he really is a doggy person.

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Goingtobeawesome · 09/03/2016 18:07

Don't mind about the burnt hand. It's all worth it for a lovely thread all about love.....hopefully.

Cabrinha · 09/03/2016 18:09

I would say I'm not a doggy person. Smelly mutts, the lot of 'em.

My boyfriend's wife had a dog, but when she became really ill the dog went to her parents. Dog comes back when they go on hols. I met my step dog last week. And then offered to have her for the day - boyfriend was working, she's OK alone, but loves company. Then I popped in to walk her next day for him. And right now, I'm curled up with the smelly lovely thing about to head out in the rain voluntarily with her again.

All I'm saying is... sometimes even non dog lovers come good 🐶Grin

I think it's like kids - you can't help but like them, as an extension of someone you like / love.

He'll like the dog, trust me 😉

Somerville · 09/03/2016 18:50

Cabrinha Grin Step dog - cute!
I thought I liked dogs, until I was responsible for one on my own. I should have done like your DP and given her to extended family; several people offered. And my parents have her a lot of weekends, as she doesn't like being left alone for long. But ostensibly she's Ds's, and they're very attached, though not when it comes to feeding her, training her or picking up her shit; all those pleasures are left for me. I do like running with her. And that she barks when anyone comes up the drive.

And, I love your whirlwind romance. When you know, you know. Or so was my experience with DH (met in March and got engaged in August, and only waited that long so I could meet his family at his DB’s wedding at end of July! Looonng engagement while we finished our degrees and got jobs though.) Glad it’s happened like that for you your DP after your respective earlier traumas. Have fun planning the wedding.

Goingtobeawesome - Hope your hand is okay today? Not sure about love - that's even scarier than date. Definitely some lust going on though, on my side at least. I actually felt flushed whilst typing doggy whilst thinking about Lovely Man. Shock Blush Grin

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Goingtobeawesome · 09/03/2016 19:03

Pah! I've burnt myself twice since so can't even remember which part of my hand it was..

Horsemad · 09/03/2016 19:43

Oh this thread has made me smile Smile Have a lovely time on Friday OP, we'll all be thinking of you!!

And don't forget to update please! Grin

DownInFraggleRock · 09/03/2016 22:28

This is such a lovely thread! And just for more encouragement from the other side of things.... My dad died when I was young, my mum remarried when I was 5..... I love that my mum found love again, and she now says that if my second dad (can't call him stepdad) died, she would definitely marry again, having had two happy marriages! So have a lovely time on your not a date, and I'll join the crowds going out to buy a hat! Grin

grobagsforever · 09/03/2016 23:27

Hi Somerville - sorry not read whole thread as it's late and I'm tired...I was widowed in June 2014 at the age of 33, I was pregnant with my second daughter.

My children are now 5 and 20 monthes. I work in a demanding job - and yet, for the right man I have found a way to make it work. He's so respectful of my boundaries and needs, whilst being funny, smart and sexy ;-) He's not threatened by late DH and I know DH would approve. The relationship is very different but so wonderful in its own right. So..GO FOT IT!

Somerville · 10/03/2016 17:02

Grobags - I'm so sorry for your loss. Can't imagine any harder time than whilst pg. Flowers Your DP sounds extraordinary and your story is so uplifting. Thank you.

DowninFraggle - Love it that you call him second dad. Especially as he's been part of your life for probably almost as long as you remember.

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RupertPupkin · 10/03/2016 17:17

OP you sound lovely and your posts are really heartfelt. I think you ARE feely, sod the MFPI or whatever it is! I hope tomorrow goes well.

Lovemylittlebears · 10/03/2016 17:20

I hope tomo goes really well for you :) you sound just my cup of tea. Loads of fun and deserve a nice night out. Fingers crossed for you xxx

PestilentialCat · 10/03/2016 17:29

He sounds lovely (you said it!) - hope tomorrow goes well :-)

Somerville · 10/03/2016 17:31

Oh, and I have a rather-dull-but-exciting-to-me update on today's contact with Lovely Man Smile

He sent me an email update on the meeting, and added he was so glad I emailed him on Monday, because he'd have been flummoxed when I wasn't there, about what to do next.

And then my friend (who told him I'm not dating) phoned to say "WTF - you're working with Lovely Man on another project too?"
Apparently at the meeting someone realised they needed to get my eyes on something urgently. Lovely man said "I'll give it to Ms Ville tomorrow, I'm seeing her about something else at x (the name of the company of my last meeting)" - we've agreed to meet there afterwards as he'll be nearby anyway and apparently the restaurant is hard to find).
I think he handled that very nicely - didn't let on that we're seeing each other for a not-a-date, while not lying. Though I think referring to me so formally was him being a bit too clever for his own good - my friend was confused by it. But I like it that he didn't go shooting his mouth off.

Thankfully I was driving when she called and connection was rubbish, so she didn't grill me. Need to think what to tell her. Probably just the truth, or it'll get more awkward later on. If Lovely Man and I have a wonderful time and are going out again I would tell her anyway. And if we decide we're better as friends it won't especially matter if she knows we tried a not-a-date. And if he breaks my heart, well then I won't want to work with him on any future projects, so would want her to have a heads up. But would rather tell her face to face, which can't happen until next week.
God, dilemmas like this are when I really miss having DH as a sounding board. /he stopped me overthinking too much. Though, of course I wouldn't have this dilemma if he were still here. Confused

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AnotherEmma · 10/03/2016 17:43

I think you should tell her the truth. You don't need to go into loads of detail if you don't feel comfortable doing that. But if she is a friend (and was friends with your DH) I think she might feel a bit silly/hurt if you hid it from her. You've got nothing to be embarrassed about!

Oh and he sounds even more lovely every day, btw Grin

Somerville · 10/03/2016 17:44

x-post with lots of you. Thank you for all the good wishes! I'm counting down the hours until I spend enough time with him to work out if Lovely man truly is lovely.

Rupert - MFPI made me laugh. MBTI Not that I'm not at all feely, but he's an intuitive feeler, which really mean all the feels. You know that kind of person whose eyes and whole face is very expressive of their emotions? And who are not embarrassed by expressing them? He told me completely unashamedly on the phone yesterday that he doesn't just cry when he's sad, but also when he's scared. Awww Grin Whereas its hard to tell what I'm feeling from my expression. Some would call it resting bitch face; I call it enigmatic Wink

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kpreenien · 10/03/2016 18:05

Good luck on Friday, I've just spent a good 15 minutes reading your thread and it really made me smile. You deserve to go out and have fun, spend some time with someone new that gives you that feeling.
Looking forward to the update from Friday. X

Avebury · 10/03/2016 18:14

Possibly one of my favourite ever threads on MN - so full of lovely wise ladies and so much hope and optimism. Wishing you a wonderful Friday OP.

Dungandbother · 10/03/2016 18:23

I put the thread in watching early on. But now I am joining because I would really like to know how you get on.

And also because I'm keen on a widow but it's way way too early. And he doesn't know I exist! Barely. Anyway.

Yay to Friday.

PamDooveOrangeJoof · 10/03/2016 18:45

Just read this whole lovely thread. Keeping everything crossed that you have a wonderful time tomorrow night op!

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