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Is Voldemort a virgin?

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OhShutUpThomas · 21/02/2016 21:07

And any other Harry Potter mysteries!

Can anyone answer mine?
Is Voldemort a virgin?
What happened to Rodolphus Lestrange?
Why do some spells take weeks and hours of homework to learn, yet Harry can imperious people by just saying it?

Anyone else? I've got more, can't think just now. Just finished re-reading!

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Hulababy · 22/02/2016 18:55

burin - we are looking at LA for this summer too. The WW is on soft opening there at the moment - know someone who got their first look round it last week when they were on holiday.

MrsHathaway · 22/02/2016 19:22

I was thinking the other day about how ironic and brilliant it was to have Narcissa Malfoy (because of her love of Draco) save the day. And how people always seem to overlook the fact she did save Harry who then saved everyone else

Mother's love overturning Voldemort's obsession with death, for a second time. Because love is more powerful than even death (central theme of HP). So important!

The youth of the Potters (etc) annoys me because it's simply unnecessary. Dumbledore isn't headmaster when Riddle starts at Hogwarts, so it can be fifty or more years before Harry starts. If we're believing "wizards are longer lived" then it could be eighty years.

There's no reason that Lily and James couldn't have been nearer thirty when they had Harry. Average primip then was about 26/27 I think and it would have given them a bit more time to do OotP stuff and get enough of a reputation for Voldemort to be interested. Also for Snape to be plausibly a teacher by then and trusted by Voldemort, etc etc etc.

There's just no need for them to be 21 except that it was originally a children's book and 11yos think 30 might as well be 70 Hmm

::grump::

HP has special status for me because I was a teenager when they were published and I read them to keep up with children I looked after ... and those children were called for casting and one of them got a named part (though I'd moved on by the time she started filming).

I need it to be coherent. I need it to be consistent. "My" children grew into adulthood with Harry (as will my own) and it matters to me that the messages you take away from him are positive.

SmallBee · 22/02/2016 19:41

Ooooooooo nothing gets me angrier than GoF Harry.
Get it the fuck together Harry! This is why Malfoy doesn't like you. If he stopped being such an angry teen and thought for five minutes he'd of realised about the blimming two way mirror. ( or asked Hermione what to do, like he always does.)

Does anyone else feel like Harry just let's things happen to him a lot and just relies on Hermione/ serendipity to bail him out?

Alisvolatpropiis · 22/02/2016 19:45

I never understood why the actors cast as Harry's parents and their contemporaries like Snape (as much as I loved AR's Snape) were all so much older than they were implied as being in the books.

It has annoyed me since the first film.

MrsHathaway · 22/02/2016 20:04

Alis - because they're just much more plausible.

I'm watching DH2 at the moment (Harry and Voldemort have just jumped off the tower). When he sees his parents in the forest, according to the book they'd be only three and a bit years older than him. You can ignore that in a book but it would look totally wrong on film. I think it was the right decision to cast Snape/Sirius/Lupin/James/Lily more like 40 than 30.

Trills · 22/02/2016 20:11

Harry is a summer-born, the oldest kids in the school are 18 just like in muggle sixth-form, as far as we know. (cutoff could be end of July I suppose but even then not much difference).

I think it's a bit weird that Harry's parents were 21 when they died.
I know it's canon but I am not keen.
I think maybe the films have just decided to CHANGE the ages to be more sensible (the same way that the films occur in the 2000s not the 90s).

Alan Rickman is of course too old - Alan Rickman would have been 55 when the first film came out, so 44 when Harry was born. But maybe he's playing younger than his age and we'll forgive him because he is Alan Rickman.
But Gary Oldman (Sirius) would have been 43 when the first film came out, so 32 when Harry was born.
And David Thewlis (Lupin) would have been 38 when the first film came out, so 27 when Harry was born.
Harry's parents being 27-32 when we was born just sounds more sensible, especially given that they were members of the first Order of the Phoenix

00100001 · 22/02/2016 20:12

mrsH I think the age is important - they are young, yes. But I think it is because it shows that young people are far more capable than they realise, when presented with this situation. The dark stuff forced them to grow up early. It's a little bit like WWI, when you had teenagers going out to war, lying about their age to get in, because they felt it was right and their duty. 250,00 boys (under 19) signed up when the volunteers were called for.

00100001 · 22/02/2016 20:20

The Weasley twins were fully fledged members of the Order and died when he was 20. So it's not so unbelievable really.

What I don't "get" about the young age is he amount of time it took for Lily to go from hating James Potter in the fifth year to loving him so much everyone harks on about how amazing and right they were for each other.

"Lily Potter (née Evans) is a Muggle-born witch and Harry's mother. She was born 30 January 1960 and died on 31 October 1981 at age 21. She was quite young, 19 years old, when she became pregnant with Harry, giving birth to him at 20."

So THAT is what I want to know.

How old were they when they married?

Alisvolatpropiis · 22/02/2016 20:27

That's what I don't understand, they aged up the parents generation to make it seem more plausible they were in the Order etc for the films, and still had a trio of teenagers running around killing horcruxes and Harry alone vanquishing Voldemort?

VoldysGoneMouldy · 22/02/2016 20:44

I guess in the Wizarding world, there's a different level of coming of age. Come of age at 17, finish school as a qualified wizard, into wizard work - also you may well have met your partner, and grown up with them for the last seven years, so getting married and having children not long after that would have made sense.

I think J&L had to be young, to show the destruction of war on that age group. It does make me sad when I think about it too much though - they should have had some time to just live.

What does a Hogwarts graduation look like? Do they HAVE a graduation? Or a prom?

Harry and Ron didn't go back to complete their NEWTS, so did they basically just rely on their names to get them through after the War? No judging - if I'd saved the world, I'd probably want to chill out as well. I'm a Ravenclaw, I'd have totally gone back.

Did they have to set up a kind of PTSD support group for the Battle of Hogwarts survivors?

Were there other teachers for each subject? At one point there's a mention of the Transfiguration 'department' - so this would indicate more staff and more classrooms? I understand we couldn't possibly meet every teacher but does make me curious because of the staff table. Do only the heads of department get fed? Grin

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Elledouble · 22/02/2016 20:59

There was something awful on Buzzfeed the other day about "year after the Battle Of Hogwarts and the Thestrals are confused about all the attention they are getting".

Also that maybe there would be a whole load of new ghosts at Hogwarts. Sad

Here it is...

Bazza2 · 22/02/2016 21:51

showme me too!

Rearoftheyear · 22/02/2016 21:57

Re a Hogwarts graduation, when JKR did a Pottercast interview back in the day one of the podcasters said he thought that after their graduation the students would travel away from Hogwarts on the same little boats they first arrived in. She said she liked the symbolism of travelling back over water. That would've been really cool.

As for radios the wizarding wireless played music (Celestina Warbeck) and of course became massively important.

I always wanted to know more about what the Order members were doing on their espionage missions for Dumbledore at the start of OOTP. I once wrote a whole seven chapter fic based on one line where Harry catches a glimpse of McGonagall leaving furtively BlushBlushBlush

VoldysGoneMouldy · 22/02/2016 22:07

Ah the days on fanfiction... I loved it so much... I remember writing a particularly well received one on what was the WB Harry Potter forum about ten years ago Grin

thegiddylimit · 22/02/2016 22:31

Harry and Ron didn't go back to complete their NEWTS, so did they basically just rely on their names to get them through after the War? No judging - if I'd saved the world, I'd probably want to chill out as well. I'm a Ravenclaw, I'd have totally gone back.

Read Testament of Youth by Vera Brittain (another likely Ravenclaw), she went straight back to Oxford after the war and found it very traumatic being surrounded by (younger) people whose lives hadn't been destroyed by the war. After big wars society tries to forget as quickly as possible and those who are scarred have to try and hid it as best they can.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 23/02/2016 00:30

I wonder if you could take friends from different houses into your common room - there are bound to be some inter-house friendships. Or say the Patil twins, I could imagine them wanting to borrow each other's clothes or something.

And if you know the password/can work out the Ravenclaw riddle, would you get in? Or do students 'promise' not to do that?

(As an aside, if I were Parvati I'd very much feel like the less clever town after that sorting...)

Alirocks4u · 23/02/2016 00:45

Voldemort is not a virgin... Rapest do it and they are not emotionally invested in their victims. Also did anyone forget that he seduced Rowena Ravenclaw (I know she is a ghost) and the Lady with the Hufflepuff goblet... So yeah

DrSeussRevived · 23/02/2016 01:08

"The two-way mirror. The two-way mirror. The two-way fucking mirror.

I'll just leave it in my trunk and forget about the easiest and most discreet way of contacting my Godfather, and instead holler about the castle and stick my head into a fire, fail to contact him and lead him to his death when he inevitably comes to rescue me.

Then I'll find it a year later all smashed and think "I wonder if we can chat now he's dead", rather than "what a fucking idiot I am for leaving this in my trunk, why am I trusted with magic?""

Yy to this.

Andylion · 23/02/2016 03:20

Have you seen this about the marauders map, showing a hookup?

www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/17/harry-potter-sex-scene_n_6910568.html

00100001 · 23/02/2016 05:56

With the Common Rooms, it supposedly a secret where they are. If you remember, Harry has to prove he's in Slytherin by knowing where the common tokm is, when caught bgbthe Snatchers.

Seems hugely unlikely that students wouldn't know where the other common rooms are though!

glowfrog · 23/02/2016 07:30

The common rooms are not secret - they are just password protected.

glowfrog · 23/02/2016 07:31

And yes to the 2-way mirror thing!! That always bothered me, too!!

Rearoftheyear · 23/02/2016 07:34

Andylion ShockGrin

00100001 · 23/02/2016 08:13

the locations are secret! Why else would the Snatchers ask Harry if he knew where the entrance to Slytherin was? Scabior said something along the lines of "it was funny how everyone thought that was what they wanted to hear, but nobody they had snatched could tell them where Slytherin's common room was."