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FrumpyGrumpy · 12/04/2005 23:06

New to MN but like what I read so far. Struggling to get by day by day at the minute and feeling isolated but not enough to make the effort to join in the 'groups' the whole world seems to think are just what I need!!!!

Have daughter of 4 and girl and boy twins of eight months. Not had time since they were born when all three kids have been well, am I just cursed? Throw in a house move that took 6 months, a partner that works away most of the week and a mother-in-law I can wait another lifetime to deal with and I've ended up the sort of person I used to look at and wonder how life got like that.

Anyone give me hope that when the babes are eighteen months I'll feel better?!! If not, anyone tell me that alternate nights of gin then chocolate is an ok passage through?

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Kelly1978 · 24/03/2006 15:46

oh go on, rub it in a bit more! Grin

I'm having trouble enough finding a nursery place for ds1, let alone 3 and 4. He's seems to be ready for nursery now but they all seem to be full. I guess I'm going to have to wait until he starts school. Only two more years until the dts can go to nursery too...

Oh and that is so good about your tma. I'm still waiting for mine back too. We're on the new electronic system and I think it is slowing it down.

MadameDeMars · 24/03/2006 17:25

when's your next tma due? Mine is due on 31st

Kelly1978 · 24/03/2006 17:30

Not til 3rd May, so I can't complain really. I only have 6 this year so they are quite well spaced, especially the first two. They are all worth at least 10% so I suppose they have given us the extra time rather than the 4% jobby I had in my other courses.

MadameDeMars · 24/03/2006 17:54

lucky you! We have 6 but they're not that well spaced (still none to do over the summer) or is it 8? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Kelly1978 · 24/03/2006 19:17

hey, do you have any tips for remember vast amounts of information? Im about 1/4 of the wayt hrough, 25 pages of notes and about 60 cases to remember so far. I have to memorize names, dates and details and I find it really hard. The exam is worth 50% of the course and so my exams are really letting me down. Sad

MadameDeMars · 25/03/2006 00:07

I don't! Have you signed up to their online services? There are a lot of tips there. I'll see what I can find out and let you know. For now I need my bed!

Kelly1978 · 27/03/2006 10:38

I'll have to have a lookt hrough. I've signed up but not seen the tips. I got my tma back today - 72%. I'm quite happy as it ismy first third year tma. Little bit dissapointed that I buggered the conclusions a bit, the word limit was so tight though!

FrumpyGrumpysatonawall · 27/03/2006 13:31

You busy little bees!! I do tma's too only in my case its Too Much Ar**about Grin.

Have sat down here to fill in 2 passport applications for the DTs and a renewal for DD - bloody hell there's enough paper to decorate the walls! Getting the photos was a laugh. It took me 3 weeks (so I could get my mum to sit with one while I took the other, not at a school time, food time, nap time etc etc).

DT2 was just brilliant, so in awe of seeing himself on the screen. DT1 clucked like a chicken, pulled her mouth into funny shapes and blinked her eyes to see if her image would do the same. DD was too short to sit on the seat, too tall to stand on it and the the seats don't spin round anymore to change height so hers was hardest - I had to get her to kneel while I held her knees since the seat was so narrow! She wasn't looking too well in hers so I might take her again.

I'm looking at the forms. I've been trying to do them for weeks. They're sitting right there, right there. My fingers however are over here. Aw, I'm gona have to do them. Here goes.....

Kelly1978 · 27/03/2006 14:38

u got them done yet????

Grin Where are going off to then?

I'm feelign rather pleased with myself, got lots of work done today. I wish I could do your version of tmas tho, sounds like much more fun!

FrumpyGrumpysatonawall · 28/03/2006 14:08

Hiya Kelly,

Well I've done all the filling in bit and looked out all the birth certificates etc. Now just to wait til Thursday when one of my friends will fill in the certification bit - so complex, like I'd volunteer to pay a small fortune to get passports for someone elses crazy DTs!!! We're off to Mallorca in July (we hire a villa and its heavenly, its just hell in the lead up and getting there, since I'm not the most relaxed of people!!!) We haven't had a holiday since before I was pregnant with the DTs (just because it seemed too much effort) and once DD had been in the hospital I had new strength and thought "what the hell".

I'm so ashamed Blush.

I had hardly any sleep last night for lots of reasons and when I woke up today the day just got worse and worse. Did the school run and came straight home and eventually I sat down and while playing with the DTs had a cry. The awful bit is that we have a guy who cuts the grass March-Dec and today was his first visit since before Christmas. He just turned up right outside the glass doors right next to where I was sitting. Blush I had to grab tissues and pretend I was choked with the cold Shock Blush Blush. I really show it when I've had as much as slightly damp eyes let alone a proper cry so I'm quite sure he can't possibly have swallowed it. Bum and tits. Blush

How's lemondrizzlemadamemarspopsomefruitonyourheadandwiggle today?

Kelly1978 · 28/03/2006 14:25

oh bugger. Does he have a handsome sholder for you to cry on? Wink

I was a bit down yesterday, got the letter back regarding ds. No mention of autism (which she said during the appointment) and instead the letter reads like they are blaming me for his behaviour. I guess I should have known it wasn't going to be this straightforward. The consolidation appointment is next so fingers crossed!

We do the villa thing too, so much easier with kids in tow. I can't wait!

FrumpyGrumpysatonawall · 28/03/2006 18:15

Aw Kelly, there's no way in hell you have anything to do with his behaviour, good or bad actually. You have 4 children, 1 of them gives you signs that you would like investigated. End of story and its wrong to place responsibility at your feet. As the song goes, don't stop til you've have enough. If you remain unconvinced......keep posting, I'm interested to hear how you and he get on. (Between you and me I have trouble believing quite a bit of what the NHS mutter and I'm sure for every gem there are a hundred fairly useless NHS 'professionals'. I've always felt the NHS are just fabulous if your legs are hanging off but anything less than that....)

No handsome shoulders with my grass cutter. More geeky, very, very lovely and chatty and cheery, but def geeky! Just part of my rollercoaster I call life and I won't stop until I have found my full and final conclusion as to why I get like this. We bought a cross trainer (OMG Shock) and have been doing a bit exercise to see if I can sweat out my stress hormones. God I'm gullible Grin Grin. But we'll see, I want to be as lovely a person as I know I'm capable of.

Ranting now frumpy, ranting girl....

Screamers bath time.

FrumpyGrumpysatonawall · 28/03/2006 21:25

I'm taking myself off to bed after a quick shower. Just one question. Why do I always feel ugly and fat? I'm not exactly gwynneth paltrow or elle macpherson or penelope cruz or or or... but I know I'm not ugly and fat but I always feel ugly and fat. When I first had my DTs (and for about 6 months) I kind of felt like I was doing something amazing and felt very proud of myself and confident. I smiled a lot and didn't care how many bits of vomit were on my shoulder because I felt like I had taken on a mountain and I was running up it.

Its all gone. I feel worthless and my self esteem is rock bottom.

In public I'm still Mrs Cheery but in private I cringe at myself and I'm embarrassed by myself.

Sorry to pull you down girls, just wanted to get that off my chest.

MadameDeMars · 29/03/2006 00:34

FG!!!!!!!!!! London to stay with me NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gotta get that self esteem working and your spirits high!

I'm fine. Still awaiting my TMA grade. Finally got hold of the film I need to watch to write my second assignment (due in 2 days gah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Kids all well. Me still feeling reasonably rested. I daren't post on the would you leave your 4 month old baby. What would they say knowing that I'd left the lot of them for my holiday of a lifetime? lol

Kelly..... don't let it get to you. It's not YOU! I promise. Smile So, will this report be your stepping stone or your stumbling block?

Much love to you ladies. I've a dvd to watch... far too bloodthirsty to watch with the kids about and I've only just caught up with 24. Grin

Kelly1978 · 29/03/2006 10:57

fg, go get a haircut, a manicure and a new outfit - it sounds like you need some serious pampering! Grin
I've got a cross trainer, it's sitting in my storeroom. Grin I think I used it twice, then got ill, and havent bothered since. If it makes you feel better, I currently weigh 15st6lbs Shock (not even dp knows that!) Once I stopped bfeeding the weight just piled on. Luckily cos I'm tall I look more curvy than blobby, but I do need to lose it. Since I'm driving everywhere I feel so unfit now.

Thanks for the support regardign ds. It's really annoys me that they cant see it. I think maybe I need to get the camcorder out and film him. We went to legoland sunday, was a great day. dd and ds went on the driving school, for 3-5 year olds. they all sit on benches where they have a dry run and are told how to drive the cars, everyone was sitting nicely, except for ds. He's off in his own little world as usual, pulling faces, squirming and making peculiar noises. He doesn't even LOOK normal. Then when he got in the car he caused a mass pile up. Grin I prob shouldn't have let him go, but he loved it. His latest obssession is now licking everything. Not very hygenic. Smile

I jsut don't know where I will turn next if these people can't give him a diagnosis. They accept that he isn't right, but are saying it might be personality, stress, not enough attention, me smokign and drinking during pg (was in a refuge - v stressful time) , etc. etc. My next step will be the school when he starts I guess. I'm dreading that. He is better equipped to deal with it now, but he is going to find it near impossible to make friends. Not that it will bother him, I suppose...

I better stop rambling! It's good to talk though Wink Smile

Kelly1978 · 29/03/2006 10:57

omg, its a long one. In the words of fg, go to the bog and get a drink first!

FrumpyGrumpysatonawall · 29/03/2006 14:15

Thanks girls, the DTs are ill AGAIN and I think its tipped the delicate balance. DT1 has had a temp since Monday but seems brighter this afternoon and DT1 just got his temp this morning!

However, I got the first 7 hour sleep in a looooooooong time last night and I feel hugely better for it. Bet I don't get another for long enough. Sleep has a big part to play with mood for me. Mars, if only I could get there. I could get there but I'd have some explaining to do!! Thanks a million for keeping my bed open, is it in an all-white haven of a room that is only disturbed by the warm summer breeze rippling at the drapes? I thought so Grin.

I saw the thread (haven't had time to read) and I thought of you - I felt sure you'd be on it!!! Go on, say "I just had enough one lunchtime and left all five and went straight to the airport looking for a bargain"!! Grin

Kelly, its funny you say you are tall as I had totally imagined you to be small. I went down in weight quite dramatically when I had the DTs (about 7.5st) and I looked like hell. I'm now somewhere under 9st but it definitely isn't what you weigh, its how much you love yourself. So you're right, I probably just need to shake up the wardrobe a bit and start wearing different stuff to flower again.

I'm sorry to hear you were in a refuge honey, how did that happen if you don't mind me asking. (If you do, I'm not insulted.) It SOOOOOO much has nothing to do with smoking, drinking or the refuge. The smoking might have connections to hearing difficulties etc but not this. Babe, you know your boy. You keep at it until you are fully satisfied (ooo-er). I'm pleased he seems happy though and I just love the thought of his pile up at Legoland! If it was you, you wouldn't have 3 other kids giving you no cause for concern whatsoever. I think bollocks to the stress stuff, personality maybe but all the others NO. Keep posting honey.

The sun is shining Shock.

FrumpyGrumpysatonawall · 29/03/2006 14:20

I can't do short messages, it isn't in my blood Grin.

Kelly1978 · 29/03/2006 16:38

I know it isn't stress, as I was pg with him when I left exh and went to the refuge, and dp has been around since he was a baby, only 6 months old. She has all the dates - she could have worked that out for herself! Plus dd is old enough to remember a lot more, she should be the one who is stressed. I used to think it was his personality, as a baby he was incredibly laid back. It's since I had the twins that I thought it has to be something more, out of four children he is so totally different from the other three.

I've always considered the possibility that it was me smoking and drinking, but there aren't any links afaik between autism and that, and she definately identified a lot of autistic traits. So although it doesn't change the fact that I do feel bad about what I did, it probably isnt the cause of his problems. I kind of wish I hadn't told them about it now, as it seems to be that they are think smoking and drinking - bingo!

The refuge, mmm, long time ago now. Funny actually it was really on my mind the other day, can't remember what it was, but something really jolted me there and brought the memories really vividly back. I did the marry young, repent at lesiure thing. I met my exh at a holiday camp that I worked at after dropping out of uni, supposed to be a temporary job, rethink my lifeplan type thing. My parents were v disspointed abt the whole uni thing and I wasn't very welcome back home. I lived on site at the camp, then moved in with this guy I hardly knew. A year later I was pg with dd, semi planned. He became violent once I was pg. I was under pressure to marry for the sake of the unborn baby, so ended up married to him. I had dd, and things slowly got worse. He wouldn't let me go on the pill and I ended up pg with ds. I eventually left him when I was abt 20 weeks pg. I was worried for ds sake, as I was risking him getting hurt. Plus dd was starting to notice things going on. I went up the council, pleaded homelessness and got put into a refuge. I got all my stuff out while exh was at work, and never went back.

The refuge was a horrible place. There was other woman coming and going. One woman was there throughout my stay, a heavy alcoholic, with 3 children, one with sn. I ended up caring for her kids a lot while she was out drinking or laid up with hangovers. More women came and went, once with OCD, another who smoked pot like cigarettes. I was the doormat who became the live in nanny! I can remember taking ten kids to the park, only one of which was my own, and one was blind and another had aspergers. Hard to believe isn't it?! Sad The little boy who was blind needed daily injections, and I had to get his bloody mother out of the pub to give it to him.

As you can imagine, it was incredibly stressful, and so I drank too mcuh, smoked too much. Managed two 3l bottles of lambrini one night. I was seriously mentally ill by this point, luckily I did have friends looking out for me through an organisation called Home start. I was desperate to get out before I had ds, and I got a flat two weeks before he was born, and things went up from there. Smile

At this rate I gonna have one hell of a life story! The experience def made me stronger though, I had to fight back from nothing. When I got my flat it was my whole new start, £500 and an empty flat, and a new baby due in two weeks. That was interesting! Grin Plus I still had exh to deal with for a few more years.

Now u got my life story, you regret asking don't u? Wink

Kelly1978 · 29/03/2006 16:38

oh bugger, feel free to ignore that essay!

MadameDeMars · 29/03/2006 17:02

wow Kelly! Lots and lots and lots more respect for you now. You've come through a lot! Well done!

Grin

FG: is it in an all-white haven of a room that is only disturbed by the warm summer breeze rippling at the drapes? But of course!!!!!!!

FrumpyGrumpysatonawall · 29/03/2006 17:24

Kelly darling, I've filled up reading that. What a time you've had and what a woman you are!

Do you still have to have contact with your ex? It is such a brave thing to head out into a refuge (but the right thing definitely) and equally brave to take up the flat with a child and one about to arrive. Wow. What can I say? What a lovely person, rounding up the kids and taking them to the park. Its sometimes all kids need, just a bit of fresh air and some space to be kids. You gave them that when their own carers were falling apart, even though I bet you felt like it sometimes too. You have a heart as big a a hill honey.

Right, I'm hooked, part two, what happened next, how'd you meet DP then?

This is so funny, normally people would do this over a few years and few nights out. I love the freedom.

I think your DS sounds fab. If, when you've gone right down the path, you feel autism is ticking your box but not theirs, could you ask them to refer you to an autism specialist for another opinion?

Sleep easy lovely girl x.

MadameDeMars · 29/03/2006 17:26

I'm so glad that you asked for part 2 FG, cos I'm gagging to know myself Grin

FrumpyGrumpysatonawall · 29/03/2006 17:36

Hey Mars, I'm so hooked I'd like to have an 8pm dinner booking for the 3 of us plus a large bottle of wine an no reason to get op the next day. You girls are fun.

My DD is wearing a snow white outfit, my DTs are wearing tiaras with wands and a temperature each. Life is peachy aint it? A glass of white I think Grin.

FrumpyGrumpysatonawall · 29/03/2006 17:38

Op the next day? Up even.