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Mackenzie2009 · 29/12/2024 12:53

Hi all
We've just found out our young daughter is expecting twins. To say this has comr as a shock is an understatement. She's only 15 nd my husband is furious. Our daughter is insistent that she wants to keep them and continue her education so I imagine that I will be the main caregiver for a few years and Imstumbling at the first hurdle. Where do I get a pram and travel system for two very tiny newborns. We really don't have a lot of money and I'm starting to get scared about the cost of everything. Any help will be immensely helpful.

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Jojobees · 29/12/2024 18:52

Hopefully now she’s told people she will have been referred to a teenage pregnancy midwife, who will hopefully be able to mobilise all sorts of support for her and you all as a family.
If you don’t want to be the main provider of childcare, now is the time to speak up. Your DD can be placed in a supported mother and baby placement. I would imagine in the new year there will be a lot of involvement from social care, and hopefully they will give you all options and lots of support.

Parker231 · 29/12/2024 18:53

GymBuffMum · 29/12/2024 18:50

She should be eligible for childcare costs paid for college. She needs to check this.

Hardest thing is going to be caring for them as newborns while finishing her GCSEs. Once you’ve all calmed down, you need to speak to her school OP about what support can be put in place for that when she returns next week. That will be a pretty big feat and she will definitely need someone to take on a lot of the load.

I can’t imagine anyone revising or sitting for exams when you’ve been up all night looking after two babies. They’ll be no time or quiet to get any studying done.

IKnowAPlace · 29/12/2024 18:53

In my city, there are buggy banks where parents in need can borrow essential equipment. It might be worth investigating this.

Parker231 · 29/12/2024 18:58

Nc546888 · 29/12/2024 17:43

I’m saddened shocked and slightly sickened that someone has suggested pushing her into a termination or adoption. The trauma and pain of these options if it’s not what the mother wants is huge.
this is not the 50s and an unmarried mother doesn’t have to give her babies up in Call the Midwife style.

also think it’s sad people saying she must do every feed and nappy change to be a responsible mother. Plenty of first time mothers in their 30s have help with feeds and nappy changes from their relatives. It’s kindness to a new mum. I would always want to help my daughter especially if she was in a tough stage of life with new baby/babies

The OP is probably still working so wouldn’t be around during the day to help and will need to sleep at night ready for work and therefore limited time to support a teenager with twins.

Rainbowsmiles82 · 29/12/2024 19:04

Your poor Daughter. Please give her a big hug, take a deep breath and make a plan for the future together.

Hopefully the Father of the babies will step up.

Orangeoranges42 · 29/12/2024 19:05

You seem to fully understand this is not ideal, sounds like you have had no choice in the matter and I commend you for making the best of a bad situation.

Do you have any other children?
Do not buy a new pram, second hand is perfectly fine but depends where you live whether you’ll be rural roads or in the city etc.

are you on Facebook?
how old are you?
are social services involved yet?

Ignore the negatives, it’s too late and won’t help.
you can do this and you and your child and grandchild CAN excel.

Please encourage her to be more than a teenage months, continue with her studies and be the best of what she can be. She can still get a good career etc

big hugs to you at a bloody tough time.

Orangeoranges42 · 29/12/2024 19:07

Sorry the reason I ask re Facebook, is there’s some great baby groups. Usually called due in June 2025 for example, they can be fit and miss but I’ve found a great group through.

Orangeoranges42 · 29/12/2024 19:09

People have been having babies at 15/16 for years, I know family members have that only recently I had worked out their ages that this was the case.

Theyre wonderful parents, people, with good jobs, happy lives.

Avatartar · 29/12/2024 19:10

As a single parent she won’t be able to continue studies until the babies are nursery age/funded as she won’t have time to do anything other than care for them. She’s deluded and needs to speak to a twin support group to get an idea of what is in store

ceallachmint · 29/12/2024 19:11

Msrachel · 29/12/2024 13:44

It’s not that unusual, I didn’t show until 6 months with my twins, by the time I had them at 7 months I was huge.

She is 15, likely very scared and purposely hid the pregnancy until she couldn’t anymore.

OP is here for advice, not judgement.

Just here to say the same, I didn't show until about 24 weeks and had them at 28 weeks, considering her age I'm not surprised she's probably been able to hide it.
The poor girl has probably been under an enormous amount of worry.

TheJackalsJackal · 29/12/2024 19:13

Wow OP.

are you happy to raise your grandchildren for the foreseeable? Because if my 15yo wanted that it would be a hard no. You are adult enough to be a mother? Then you be a mother. Not my job.

SouthLondonMum22 · 29/12/2024 19:19

Nc546888 · 29/12/2024 17:43

I’m saddened shocked and slightly sickened that someone has suggested pushing her into a termination or adoption. The trauma and pain of these options if it’s not what the mother wants is huge.
this is not the 50s and an unmarried mother doesn’t have to give her babies up in Call the Midwife style.

also think it’s sad people saying she must do every feed and nappy change to be a responsible mother. Plenty of first time mothers in their 30s have help with feeds and nappy changes from their relatives. It’s kindness to a new mum. I would always want to help my daughter especially if she was in a tough stage of life with new baby/babies

No one has said she must do every feed and every nappy but OP needs to make it clear that she isn’t going to raise these babies for her.

This is going to massively change OP’s life too, not to mention any other children OP may have. That’s without the financial pressure of where these babies are going to sleep, extra mouths to feed etc.

Haroldwilson · 29/12/2024 19:20

Fucking hell, some horrible people on here. Most teens are sexually active, it's pretty much the luck of the draw who gets pregnant. And a teen hiding a pregnancy is common, they panic and hope it will go away, or delay to avoid being talked into abortion. It's not like you routinely measure teen bellies, hiding a pregnancy in a baggy jumper is not that hard.

This is a hard thing op but survivable. Have you watched bump? It's on BBC, about an Australian girl who gives birth without realising she was pregnant. You might find it helps discussion with DD, it's a positive show but shows the difficulties.

Have you reached out to the father and his parents? It should be on them too, practically and financially. I know someone who did tons for her son's child (and the mother) after a teen pregnancy. You can probably share the load.

I'd be asking about what help is available - financially, emotionally, educational.

MoveToParis · 29/12/2024 19:28

It is so not the luck of the draw who gets pregnant. It’s the ones who are too thick to use contraception.

But have a think about the word “survivable”. That’s the environment these two babies are being brought into- what a start for their self esteem to be “survivable”, don’t they deserve to be “wanted” or even “cherished”.
The gap between those words shows the degree to which this is sub-optimal.

ceallachmint · 29/12/2024 19:32

Twin mum here. First and foremost this is certainly going to be brutally hard work, considering the shock, age of your daughter and practicality of having unexpected twins.

I think ur absolutely amazing for standing by her and accepting her decision and being prepared to help out, everything happens for a reason. Your husband will come round but I can see why he's angry and upset.

I think the no1 thing to have is a travel system pram, such as the bugaboo, if u can buy a second hand one of these with all the parts - grab it! Second hand with everything else (bar the carseat, this will also need to be compatible with the bugaboo or whichever u buy)

Get into the sales for bottles etc, ur definatly better getting more bottles than u think as well to have spare for times when u haven't had the time to clean etc.

Everyone went on at me about "routine" with my two... I did take this on board but it's very important to remember that what one baby needs might not necessarily mean the other needs the same, they are two individual babies after all. Luckily mine seemed to work in sync thank The Lord! But this might not be the case and u may need to be persistent and have lots of patience with managing this.

During the hard days after my babies feeds I found it a lot easier to put them both in the car and go for a "nap time" drive to ensure they both slept and settled, I think this helped with them being in sync. This is only ok if u feel you've had enough sleep yourself tho, as ideally u want to be sleeping when they're asleep.

Nuby RapidCool Portable Baby Bottle Maker - a God send.

A sling - for one baby whilst holding the other.

The bottom line of it is your all just going to need to be as prepared as u can be and find a way to work it out once the babies are here. It may occur to ur daughter after they're born that she can't continue with education for now, she may need to rely on benefits u til such times the babies are older and she can start again.

Where there's a will there's a way and I truly wish u all the best xx

CrispieCake · 29/12/2024 19:34

Avatartar · 29/12/2024 19:10

As a single parent she won’t be able to continue studies until the babies are nursery age/funded as she won’t have time to do anything other than care for them. She’s deluded and needs to speak to a twin support group to get an idea of what is in store

Absolutely.

It's ok for the OP to say actually, no, I'm not taking on the load for you DD. This is your home and I will support you, but you're going to have to put everything else aside and focus on parenting these babies for the time being because I have a life, job etc. that I'm going to be living and I'm not available for 24/7 childcare duties.

berksandbeyond · 29/12/2024 19:34

MoveToParis · 29/12/2024 19:28

It is so not the luck of the draw who gets pregnant. It’s the ones who are too thick to use contraception.

But have a think about the word “survivable”. That’s the environment these two babies are being brought into- what a start for their self esteem to be “survivable”, don’t they deserve to be “wanted” or even “cherished”.
The gap between those words shows the degree to which this is sub-optimal.

Yep, or not bury their head in the sand for so long when 1 tablet (morning after pill) or 2 tablets (medical termination) could have solved a lot of angst

Haroldwilson · 29/12/2024 19:35

MoveToParis · 29/12/2024 19:28

It is so not the luck of the draw who gets pregnant. It’s the ones who are too thick to use contraception.

But have a think about the word “survivable”. That’s the environment these two babies are being brought into- what a start for their self esteem to be “survivable”, don’t they deserve to be “wanted” or even “cherished”.
The gap between those words shows the degree to which this is sub-optimal.

It is the luck of the draw. No contraception is 100%, especially when used by inexperienced teens. There's no thickness about it. Condoms come off, the pill fails because you have a stomach bug, etc. I'm pretty sure if your child was in that situation you wouldn't call them thick.

By survivable I mean it's perspective of it being impossible to get through. It might be hard but do-able. DD might be able to parent independently within a few years. I don't mean the babies won't be loved, you're being facetious.

Most people who have babies in any situation find at least some phases of the first few years to be more about survival than cherishing every moment. With twins it's even more the case.

Parker231 · 29/12/2024 19:36

I think the first questions before any thoughts of travel system, bottles or cots is who is physically going to look after these babies and provide for them financially? The mother to be seems to think she will be continuing with her education.

Haroldwilson · 29/12/2024 19:38

CrispieCake · 29/12/2024 19:34

Absolutely.

It's ok for the OP to say actually, no, I'm not taking on the load for you DD. This is your home and I will support you, but you're going to have to put everything else aside and focus on parenting these babies for the time being because I have a life, job etc. that I'm going to be living and I'm not available for 24/7 childcare duties.

Her dd is 15. Yes you can say it's her responsibility, but really if dd can't cope then op is going to be first in line to pick up the pieces.

coronafiona · 29/12/2024 19:40

Join Tamba.

Haroldwilson · 29/12/2024 19:40

Parker231 · 29/12/2024 19:36

I think the first questions before any thoughts of travel system, bottles or cots is who is physically going to look after these babies and provide for them financially? The mother to be seems to think she will be continuing with her education.

This is something op needs to find out - I wouldn't say 'that's the end of school for you' but find out what the school allows and what alternatives are - home learning etc. or if DD needs a few years out of education, what is available after that in terms of college courses

Buying the stuff is an understandable step to make it tangible and it's easier than tackling the other stuff.

Gabitule · 29/12/2024 19:42

MoveToParis · 29/12/2024 16:25

Poor you, as the Mum of now 15 year old twins, I can tell you that you have no idea what’s going to hit you all. The thought of either of mine have twins is so off the wall it’s practically hilarious.

Obviously, she (teenager that she is) has shat on her family from a great height, won’t be reasoned with, and will blithely assume other people to pick up the pieces.
Because she is so young, as the magnitude starts to dawn on her, you will be left dealing with new born twins plus a teenager with PND.

Apparently there are schemes for helping very young mothers but I don’t know if 16 is the cut-off.

Are you in a position to provide childcare anyway? Can she even string a coherent plan for the first year together.

I must say the people who talk about how their teenage pregnancy turned out OK, really need to get a grip. The vastl majority were housed, fed, provided with free childcare and more for years on end, with a value of tens of thousands. They handed their parents the very shitty end of the stick and decades later still don’t get it.

I applaud your post!

When teenagers have kids it is their families or the tax payers who support them. It’s a massively selfish act who actually benefits nobody. Of course one can’t expect teenagers to make mature decisions, but the least they can do is to discuss the pregnancy with adults (parents, counsellor, etc) at an early enough stage, before the decision to terminate the pregnancy or keep the baby is taken out of their hands.

WaitingforStrike · 29/12/2024 19:42

Haroldwilson · 29/12/2024 19:20

Fucking hell, some horrible people on here. Most teens are sexually active, it's pretty much the luck of the draw who gets pregnant. And a teen hiding a pregnancy is common, they panic and hope it will go away, or delay to avoid being talked into abortion. It's not like you routinely measure teen bellies, hiding a pregnancy in a baggy jumper is not that hard.

This is a hard thing op but survivable. Have you watched bump? It's on BBC, about an Australian girl who gives birth without realising she was pregnant. You might find it helps discussion with DD, it's a positive show but shows the difficulties.

Have you reached out to the father and his parents? It should be on them too, practically and financially. I know someone who did tons for her son's child (and the mother) after a teen pregnancy. You can probably share the load.

I'd be asking about what help is available - financially, emotionally, educational.

I would be genuinely surprised if most 15 year old girls are sexually active.

Haroldwilson · 29/12/2024 19:45

WaitingforStrike · 29/12/2024 19:42

I would be genuinely surprised if most 15 year old girls are sexually active.

https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/45313-what-age-did-britons-lose-their-virginity

*New YouGov Surveys research has revealed that one in five Britons (19%) who were willing to say when they lost their virginity confess to having done so when they were under the legal age of consent of 16.

The median age at which Britons lost their virginity is 17, with half of Britons having sex for the first time between the ages of 16 and 18. One in six (17%) lost their virginity at the age of 16, with similar numbers doing so at age 17 (16%) and age 18 (17%).*

Ok so not a majority but at 15 snogs and fumbles are common and a fair few going further than that. Sex under 16 for one in five.

At what age did Britons lose their virginity? | YouGov

One in five admit to first having sex before their 16th birthday

https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/45313-what-age-did-britons-lose-their-virginity