D'y ever wanna stop the world and get off?

[MarsLady]

Nah!!!!!!!!!!!!! Loving it too much at the moment.

Those stereo moments with the DTs though..... they make me want to put the world on pause occasionally.

Had a fab night out dancing. Saw that IAMF filled the thread and didn't even start a new one

So here it is and if you don't like the title.... well it's almost 3 in the morning. What's a Mars to do?

Awww Pixi hope you are ok. You can always email me for a chat if you like and i wil give you my phone number. Hope you get it sorted

The inlaws arrived with French goodies last night We have lots of Vino and tempting nibbles. They have been in France all week on their hols. Oh i wish i lived there.

How is everyone else?

Pixi............. don't stay away long. Call if you want to.

Hello multiple ladies. Back from two weeks in Portugal and have the post holiday blues as it was so lovely and DS had such a great time, and now it is back to "reality".

Have not had time to catch up on thread yet but hope everyone is ok.

I have a question for you girls that has surely been asked before, but would like opinions / advice / experiences from the ladies who I "know" rather than from the archives... I always intended to push for a natural birth for the DTs, but am now starting to have second thoughts and am really not sure what the best option is. I had a quick (4 hour) labour with DS, which was very easy compared to many. DH works approx 2 hours away from the hospital / our house, my parents and his are also minimum two hours away, we have only lived here 8 weeks and do not know anyone well enough to thrust DS on them in the middle of the day, let alone night, etc etc etc.

How many of you have achieved a natural birth with twins, does anyone know statistics of having one twin naturally and then needing c-section for second? Have any of you had c-section for twins and had an older child (DS will be 22-23 months), and is it impossible to get them in and out of bath / cot etc after section?

Sorry, just looking to hear your experiences, and I realise that the decision may be out of my hands depending on DTs positions / size / gestation etc etc.

hello egg, glad you had a good holiday - coming back is the worst bit isn't it? Reality hits you all too soon...anyway, enough gloom and doom from me, onto your birth question. I had an assisted delivery with my 2, my first and only experience of the whole process! Labour went on a bit and DT1 wasn't keen on coming out (now that we know them properly, this is true to character, DT2 probably kicked her out) she had forceps and was whisked away pretty quickly but ok, DT2 was breech and almost dragged out by her feet but I did get immediate contact with her. They were 5 weeks prem but not in SCBU thankfully. I very cleverly decided to go into labour in the early hours of Sunday morning so DH was around.

Thanks fuddle, I think that if I have a chance of a natural labour I should go for it, as I am sure I will be glad afterwards, just seems so much "easier" to have a date and plan everything. If I didn't have DS already, I wouldn't consider elective c-section unless for medical reasons. Good to hear though, that you had a natural labour despite them not being that keen to come out and not in the right position. I think my consultant (who I have yet to really meet properly) is very keen on c-sections. His understudy, who I met before hols, hinted that he would try to push me towards one, and stressed how surely an elective one is preferable to pushing one twin out, going through all the pain and STILL having a c-section.

How did you feel after DT1 had come out, and you still had to go through it again to get DT2 out? Because DS was pretty easy I think it wouldn't be too bad, but I seem to remember after pushing him out that i was damn glad I didn't have another one in there!

I think that not having immediate contact with DT1 was a shame, DH held her and he gets on with her brilliantly, she is a real daddy's girl, whilst DT2 who came straight to me for a feed is mummy's girl - now this may be in their personality (to be fair, DT1 is the image of DH and DT2 is my double) but I can't help feeling the minutes after birth had something to do with it. DT2 as easier to get out than DT1, but I was pretty knackerd by then and quite glad they were long and skinny, due to being early, rather than full term fatties

Hi everyone!!

Just to say roast dinner is off today

dx3 have just been to a party and are stuffed to the brim,so I am not spending all that time in the kitchen cooking for them to say "Mummy I'm too full"

Anyone else feel like cooking,cos' I'm starving!!!!!

got some leftovers here for you trip my love!

Gotta go to church.... will check back to see if you've picked up the key under the third flower pot to the right of the ninth elf!

"Third pot,ninth elf....third pot,ninth elf. What was that DH? Oh I'm just popping out for a second,sandwiches in fridge"

Egg - I was induced with mine at 39.5 weeks so it was all very much planned but did deliver naturally with lots of people watching!

Egg

www.homebirth.org.uk/marycronk/marytwins.htm
(about twin pregnancy in general)
(covers both vaginal and c-section twin births).

Now you should find some help there!

Thanks girls, I think I am looking for reassurance that I should push for natural delivery if poss, rather than just doing what Mr Consultant says I should, want to be prepared / armed with info before I meet him on 8 Nov. Will see what position the little ones are in at next scan (also 8 Nov) anyway.

Don't worry Momma, you definitely don't come across as patronising, I would NEVER consider a c-section for a single birth unless it was for medical reasons so really I ought to just think of this the same way. I am 24 weeks now (just added a pic of meeeeeeeee to my profile), so still got three or more months to go hopefully.

Em hope you enjoyed Mars's leftovers... I have eaten cereal, microwave rice and two ham and cheese baps today, with chocolate in between meals, so I am definitely not worth visiting for leftovers. Will get back on track tomorrow with healthy options, honest...

Ooops . Mars, just opened your first link (thank you) and have found that Mary Cronk recommends keeping a food diary to ensure adequate nutrition. Shite.

Egg - I was induce at 38 weeks and you could say it was medical reasons as the asthma attack was the last straw and I could hardly breathe and walk nevermind look after ds1.

I was advised to have an epidural (just incase of complications with twin 2) so I had it and it was great - didn't feel a thing. Once dt1 was out the consultant held dt2 so he couldn't turn then guided him to the birth canal (external via my tummy) so I had a very easy painless quick natural birth (ds1 was a nightmare birth).

My parents live 5 mins away so they came to look after ds1.

My fear was dt1 natural dt2 c section - thankfully that didn't happen

I need some bedtime advice (not me, the dts) the routine has gone to pot and I am really struggling

Erin is trying to sleep and is getting upset cos Jack is screaming and she can't. Then James also can't get to sleep.

So this is what I did this evening - after a screaming fit from them, I picked Jack up and he carried on screaming so I put him back in cot. Picked up Erin and she stopped - she was so tired. I then left Jack in his cot and took Erin into James' room and sat in there until James fell asleep, so did Erin on my shoulder. By this time Jack has screamed so much he has fallen asleep. So I then put Erin back in her cot and they are currently all asleep.

They share a room but not cots anymore and I am on my own. Any advice please?

Don't worry about the food diary darling. I kept nothing done the entire 8+ months. I say nothing but actually Guinness, Red wine and Brie stayed down nicely indeed!

Oooggs I remember you saying you had a nightmare pregnancy but an easy birth. I have so far (touch wood) had an easy pregnancy, so hope I don't get unlucky with the birth! With DS I had an easy pregnancy, easy birth, but nightmare first six months. Reading about your sleep issues with DTs now scares me! I am intending on putting them in same cot for first six months like (I think) you did, but am worried that they will just start sleeping ok and then I will split them.

Having watched two episodes of Bringing Up Baby today that I Sky+ whilst away, I can't wait for the babies to arrive so I can attempt to prove that hideous woman wrong... those poor babies.

Mars, fair play to you on your pregnancy diet! I used to love Guinness before getting pg with DS, but went right off it and never liked it since. Could easily eat a lot of brie though.

DS's new bed arrived while we were away. I am excited but veeeeery nervous about transferring him from the cot. It is a car shaped one. I think he will be impressed.

doesn't follow too much egg - with ds1 it was terrible pregnacy, awful birth and dreadful 12 months but we survived. Yes you were right to remember still a terrible pregnacy but easy birth and still even with hard bedtimes they are easier than ds1. (devil child )

we put them in seperate cots at just over 5 months cos they were too big (see profile - their last night asleep together) up until this weekend they have been fantastic at bedtime. No idea what has happened or why. Jack is a nightmare on going to sleep day or night full stop.

I think we learnt so much from our 1st child and made so many mistakes, which is making the twins more managable.

Just remembered I was going to email you about possibly purchasing those lovely little outfits your DTs are wearing! Must get on and do that... sorry I am a bit forgetful. They are very very cute.

Before i knew I was having DTs, and thought it was just one, I was so smug knowing that I couldn't possibly make the same mistakes as I had with DS (also devil child ) (going in every time he cried even when he was much too old to need me 6 times a night, always letting him fall asleep on me before putting him in cot, always feeding him to sleep etc etc). Now I feel slightly less smug but kind of feel safe in the knowledge that these two just wont get the same treatment as DS did as I wont have the time...

Mars just read more of those articles. They are really helpful thank you. Once again you have come up trumps [boot licking emoticon].

BTW Oooggs, meant your DTs are very very cute, not the outfits, although clothes are lovely, but DTs are better .

I'm lucky that I have a pool of doulas to call on. We just put our stuff together to make sure we get as much info as possible!

Egg I have a few bits like that - the same but different - IYSWIM all girl/boy 0-6 mths and fantastic summer sets which would suit your due date - Don't want to see them go - but not having anymore.

Sure you don't want to hang onto them in case another set of DTs comes along .

I am already planning to flog my maternity stuff I got for hols, it has all only been worn a few times, and I never never never intend to be pregnant again...

NO CHANCE too old & too tired

have already got rid of maternity & newborn. 0-3 3-6 & bouncy chairs next