"D'y ever wonder what Paolo would look like in my shower?" <<because I do>> For FG xxx

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How are the pox today HM???

Overrun - any anyone else - if you are planning to buy sleeping bags I got my last lot from ebay - previously have always bought Grobags but with 3 boys now in them it was getting a bit pricey - I found brand new ones from a shop on ebay called sleepythings.co.uk for about half the price of Grobags and the quality is just as good - I think they do them up to 36 months size - my boys will be 4 in June and they still have masses of room to spare - let me know if you want to follow it up but cant find them and i'll try to find the proper links or whatever.

Off to bed now - take care all, sleep well!

Sorry - that should have been - or anyone else. Night night

Night ros.

Peaceful nights all x.

Morning all - sleeping bag seller was timeless-nursery-by-sleepythingstm on ebay

Morning all,
Leo _ God you sound really organised, wish I had planned that well for my dts, but we had just moved to a different city just before they were born.
Ah the pooh spreading, yes thats a very funny story, and I can laugh at others despite going through my personal hell a couple of months ago I might try and do a link later for newcomers
Fg, its so horrible when they eat it or put it near their mouths. Normally toddlers breath unless they are ill, is so pure and perfect, but the smell of pooh on their breath is the most disgusting thing and lingers long after you have cleaned their bodies up.
I am going to have lots of fun, NOT, with my two who I am just starting to introduce to potties with the aim of getting them trained before they start nursery in April.
I remember one of my problems when potty training ds1 (who was a complete nightmare), was that the dts would circle him on his potty and if he got off they would pounce on the contents
As for the sleeping bags, I rushed off and bought them from Gro bag, but if they work I will need two pairs for each boy so will look up the cheaper company.
One last thing, last night was better for several reasons.
We persevered with just shutting them their room, one accident, but then we closed the door again. They were making loads of noise as usual. I suddenly realised that I couldn't hear anything, and the best bit was they had got themselves into bed.
So they obviously can do it.
Then dt1 woke in the night, and although he cried he didn't cry in such a way as to wake up dt2, i,e no pounding on the door. We just left him and that was that until 6.30am.
We are now resolute and are going to use Dr Greens controlled crying technique, as enough is enough

Morning everyone

Hope you all had a good sleep last night. I plan to have a very quiet day today, MN, sending some emails and baking Hugs birthday cake (he is 2 tomorrow) he would like a fireman sam one....easy then...

See you all later

Overrun, thats fantastic, clever boys!! Once you get a chink of light it makes you feel inspired. Great news and I hope the bags make a difference too.

Ooooh, potty training........I've been putting off that one , taking the path of least resistance and waiting for sunny days. I am inclined to wait until they beg me for pants . Will nursery only take them when they are trained?

Largegin, a quiet day emailing, MNing, baking a Fireman Sam cake????? Happy Birthday to your young man, hope he has a giggle and enjoys his day. Give him a big lipsticky kiss from me (I don't wear lipstick he'll be glad to know)

Right, I'm not on this thread really, I just popped in to pick the brains of the MN clan. I can't find those coloured storage boxes with lids that I bought about 2 years ago from GLTC.......I need MORE!

Leo, I should have said good luck with your cake making, I am impressed that you make yours, even though I enjoy cooking, I tend to buy birthday cakes. Ds1 has asked for a thomas the tank engine one, have you seen them from Tesco?
Fg, as you say a glimmer of hope has sprung up, lets see how tonight goes.
Got my nanny again today, so am going to go into town to meet my dh, really looking forward to it

FG - yes we were sat on the sofa together! But DD was between us snoring gently, she is fine, just gorgeous but her nightly routine goes something like this;

whinge until around 11pm then fall asleep after a feed. Wake up around 1.30am for another feed, go back to sleep at about 2.30am. Wake at about 5.30am for another feed, then have a really long sleep until about 9 but Mummy has to get up at 6.45am as the twins get up then.....so tiring but hopefully only another month or so before she maybe settles into just once a night feed and maybe by 4 months she will sleep through, fingers crossed........

DT2 has just been hitting DT1 over the head with a plastic steering wheel, think I had better go.......

Overrun can you help fillyjonk out or give her some advice? organic childcare in Cardiff

and of course hello everyone! I'm about to take the DTs clothes shopping...is this something I will regret

lol at all the poo stories, thanks for sharing them. tkband1, mine can't do the poppers on the vest neither, but they yank them downwards and get them off that way. They are so stretched now they would prob go over a baby elephant's head.
safety pins are a great idea, thanks lgt. Added that to my evergrowing list for mtohercare tomorrow.

dt2 had a scary accident yesterday afternoon . Followign the poo inccident, I opened the window to his room, and I forgot to lock it again when I put him up for his nap. ten minutes later a neighbour knocked at the door with a screaming dt2 thinking he had been locked out of the house. He had jumped out the bedroom window. Drove like a maniac to the nearest A&E, and we've been really lucky that he has gotten away with cuts and brusies. He wasn't weight bearing, so they xrayed his legs, but as soon as we got back from xray he decided his legs were working and toddled off looking for more mischief. He is limping and has one very swollen foot and a badly bruised knee, but is so lucky that he landed feet first and not head first.
The windows are locked now, and I've asked the landlady for permission to bolt on window safety catches. SS were not impressed, and I feel awful. His room is bare because he is such a little monkey, I had to everything is out of it. I even made a door out of MDF to stop him climbing up the shelves int he cupboard, then forget to lock the window.
Doesn't even seem to have put him off, when I picked him up out of his cot he launched himself at the window and was trying to turn it to open with his finger on the button!

Hi ladies

Very quick hello. Just nipped home for a shower, change and nap. Back off to hospital just now. Please pray my lady delivers tonight.

Hello newbie... will say hello properly when I'm back. Missing you all.

Oh Kelly, I'm glad he's ok but it did make me smile - it really is unbelieveable the things that they get up to in the millisecond your back is turned. I remember when DT2 was just walking he managed to reach onto the kitchen counter and pull a hot cup of tea over, spilling on his arm - after 5 mins under a cold tap, which caused more screaming than the tea, we went to A&E where I had at least 3 different doctors and 2 nurses ask me "exactly how high are your kitchen worksurfaces" - for goodness sake, normal height, how high is that!!! Higher than he should have been able to reach thats for sure! Any way there was no lasting damage, just a slight sunburn mark for a few weeks, but they do make you feel guilty/an idiot. If only they could have seen the number of safety catches, stair gates, play pens, cuboard locks, video covers, plug covers etc I had around the place.

We are having a trying day here - yesterday DTs were supposed to be at preschool all day - what a treat. I got a call at 11am, DT2 throwing up - went to get him and of course DT1 doesnt want to stay on his own so the staff distracted him whilst I bolted with DT2 under my arm (what a bad mummy). I called to check on DT1 when I got home and guess what, yup, he is about to chuck up too, so back I got get him. Collect him, he is pale but hasnt actually thrown up. As soon as we get home he wants his lunch and spends the afternoon running amok with DT2 who has also had a miraculous recovery. I dont mind having them at home if they really are feeling ill because its about the only time a get a long cuddle from them, but when they are charging about its a diffent matter!

So today they are supposed to be at preschool for the afternoon but I cant take DT2 as they have a 48hour vomiting rule (which I must admit I tend to ignore if they have been sick at home and are okay in the morning). So DT1 goes alone and cries that he wants to be at home, tells me he will say he is sick so I can come and get him. He's only 3.5, where do they learn to be so devious? DT2 is at home and crying because he wants to go to school - you just cant win. Luckily MIL is staying so I havent had to cart DS3 around for all of this as well. Ho hum.

Sorry - moaning mode over - I really am truly blessed and my boys are gorgeous.

Hi Marsy. Kelly Its one of those things that is awful to think about and I bet you feel crap.......................

...............but it will be HILARIOUS in aout 10years

Am I helping?

Oh Kelly, what a nightmare for you, so glad he is ok though

Well, I survived shopping (I did take milky bar buttons with me though, not totally stupid) but DT2 had a mega strop when we got back, decided she hates our house and wants to go to a different one please I was quite tempted to take her round to the neighbours and leave her there

Anyway, its Friday night, I'm about to start the tea, glass of white anyone?

Poor you Kelly, they do such awful things to us dont they. I bet you feel terrible, at least he is ok. You will laugh at this in years to come though.

I still cant believe how devious twins are, i have had 3 singletons since them and they are no match at all for the antics of twins. Like i have said before until i joined MN and heard about all of your stories i really thought i was the only one

The cake is awaiting decoration now but they are all going ballistick. The fights over the tv channels are just spiralling after school, its getting beyond a joke. The trouble is if there is no tv it turns in to a massacre of a diffrent kind, "she is in my room" "he is in my room" grrrrrr I am desperate for the summer when i can put them all out to play. Sometimes i wonder if this baby will ever want to come out, the shouts are at least muffled in utero.

At least it's Friday, no school run, uniform crisis, lunchbox nightmare tomorrow.

oh Kelly that sounds so scary.......I am so pleased he is ok. That kind of thing really scares me as my DTs play with their windows and I am petrified of them learning how to open them. How high up was it?

POur me a large one dingdong!

Oh Kelly how frightening for you, bet your heart was pounding as you drove to A&E. Did SS say there were not impressed or is that your assessment? ONe of the things that I think is particularly hard to take and unfair is that when you are in the system, every little thing is recorded
None of the rest of us get judged in that way. Otherwise I would have a record of Capol OD, running out of the house in their socks (some neighbour might report it in)
Me shouting, some one could report that, I am sure the whole road can hear me sometimes.
Anyway I am just glad that he is okay, was it a first floor window?

large pouilly fuissé coming your way HM

cashew nuts anyone?

Yep, I need a large one as well

here you go overrun, cheers ladies

I remember screaming at DTs in the garden one particularly awful summer afternoon and then realising to my horror that the neighbours were out in their garden as well. I was just waiting for a knock on the door - almost died of shame. It always seems horrendous at the time when these things happen, and it does happen to everyone - if anyone says it hasnt happened to them they must be fibbing.

Thanks Dingdong, just what the Doctor ordered, and I agree Rosmerrin, we all make mistakes, shout whatever.

ahhh lovely wine!

I am so pleased you ladies are here, I was just nodding my head in agreement about the shouting. We have one of the few houses on our "estate" (load of houses built in the late 70s) that doesnt have double glazing and I am very conscious that you can hear me. I am certain that the neighbours can hear me shouting at the DTs at breakfast/lunch/dinner when they wont eat whatever I have lovingly crafted for them......and I feel VERY guilty and think I must be a bad mother, sounds like I am totally normal!

DT2 often goes up to DT1 and shouts incomprehensible gobbledygook to him and I'm sure that its down to him aping my behaviour........and to make matters worse ladies, in the bath tonight, DT1 quite clearly said "Shit" when a bath foamy thing fell off the tiles onto him. I asked him what he had just said and he grinned and repeated "Shit".

AAAGGGHHH I am a "shit" mother!