"D'y ever wonder what Paolo would look like in my shower?" <<because I do>> For FG xxx

[largeginandtonic]

How are the pox today HM???

You have to feel a very long way up to find the cord and then its only a tiny bit you can feel.

Hello Rosmerrin - sorry, didn't mean to ignore you earlier! Just to fill you in on me, I have an almost 2 year old DS and am 33+ weeks pregnant with twins so not quite a fully fledged member yet. They are all still hiding the lemon drizzle cake away as soon as I appear as I am not yet worthy!

I have been so focused on the logistics of getting 2 babies and a 2 year old around that I hadn't thought how it would work if I had twins first and then one. Different problems but still as challenging! Reins for ds are going on my shopping list. I got him very well trained at staying close to me when we are near roads but haven't been out enough with him walking recently (usually push him on his tricycle) and I noticed the other day that he has started running off in all directions again .

Hi Leo - thanks for the welcome. Where are you based? Did i read earlier that you are not in the UK. On reins - I found the wrist ones more helpful than the ones that attach at the back, but that may be because I was hanging onto two toddlers. Even then it could be a bit tricky as they would swop sides and you end up all tied up in the middle, or alternatively I felt like i should be wearing roller skates and just let them charge off pulling me along.

We stayed at Pollaughan Farm Cottages in Portscatho.

Anyone who is reading - they were FAB but booked up over a year in advance!

Right ladies, am off to bed...........

DH came home as a surprise tonight and I may test out the condoms for a second time (haha, tell me if TMI!!!)

See y'all tomorrow!

HM
xxxx

Large G&T (humdadadumdada....that was my mantra to you), surely you have the best contraception of them all - maybe we should all try the navy?

lol @ hm.

I could never actually find the threads on my coil.

I woke up to find dt2 covered in poo, and it was everywhere! He had stripped off, and ran around his bedroom so it was all over the carpet and the bedding. I'm seriously tempted to put a padlock on his sleepsuit 2n! Just a little suitcase padlock

It still reeks up there, but luckily dp is in charge of dressing the boys in the mornings so I escaped the cleaning up.

rosmerrin, I'll have to pick your brains, I'm studying law with the OU.

Profile, hmmm, If I must.

Hi Kelly,

Do you use sleeping bags for your DTs. I still have mine in them now, and when they were at the nappy removing stage we put a clip on the zip to stop them taking the bags or nappies off.

Brain picking awaited, but I think mine is now full of nappies etc - im sure once i eventually get back to work I will be useless!

Off to town - chat later

Hi Kelly, you know I know what you are talking about on the pooh front I wonder if I can get sleeping bags for my two year olds, as some one else suggested this another time, but it might help with settling them.
As you know I try all your ideas when it comes to settling my darlings. We left them in their room last night, door closed, no furniture. DT2 fell and some how hit his head, which is of course what I have been anxious about, sorry think I will not try that one again
I am so low about the state of the house, it is a pigsty, becasue a) I don't have time to clear up as they do horrible things behind my back while I try to, b) I am too tired and pissed off to do it anyway and c) the house is chocker with all their bedroom furniture, we don't have enough space anyway, and this problem of their furniture has made me feel there is no point doing anything as the house looks so dreadful now anyway, iyswim
Needless to say we had a crap night again, and I am ashamed to say that I caved and allowed dt2 into our bed, he isn't well and I just couldn't stand having to sit by his bed in the freezing cold to get him to settle.This was fine until dt1 woke up, and then all hell broke loose.
My headache is back, and I have thrush, due to being completely run down I suspect.
So I face another day of hell.........

Hi Overrun - you can get sleeping bags to fit them up to 4 years old - mine are in them and they work a treat!

waving hello (still way behind on this thread - you all post when my back is turned ).

Overrun - sympathy - it does improve I promise (I think I am about a year ahead of you). Go for the sleeping bags - they are a godsend - especially if you put them on back to front and they can't get out of them ! And just concentrate on the thing that bugs you most in the house - do that and the rest seems better (for me clearing the floor and hoovering make it all look so much more managed - even if everything else is a mess (which it usually is)).

Hey ladies, Mars was still in the shower when I dragged my sorry body away

the dream ends abruptly as the mini frumps decide to play a game of "lets pack every toy we own into the same room as mummy"

Well hi all. Estar, well done for keeping up! Welcome rosemerrin (Kelly, I'll whip up some banana and chocolate chip muffins and hoover and I might get a second chance at making my first impression on her, whatdyathink? I'm sure I have an apron and a high collared blouse somewhere)

Its been a busy old week in my household, 2 parties, one lunch for my friend whose husband died at Christmas (yeah, I cooked!), DD has a temp and cough, DTs have coughs and colds, I have the cold and no-one is sleeping.

Overrun, when does your lady start? You are making slow progress honey so keep focussed. I know exactly how you feel, its hard to see the wood for the trees some days isn't it.

Leo, 33 weeks! Wow, you're doing well my love, what help have you got planned when your bundles arrive.

Pixi, this bit is the bit I found hell on earth. Its wonderful and awful all together. How do you take care of the new bundles and the existing ones and find a little space to breathe?!!! The only thing I can offer you is that if you keep your head down, keep pushing, keep reminding yourself its not forever, keep telling yourself that you are coping very very well, realise that it can't be perfect, you can't keep everyone happy all the time then you will slowly come through it. Try to post on here as much as you can find time for, we really do understand and it does so help to shout and rant a bit. Don't give a toss about how you get through, not many people are faced with what you are faced with. Remember that. Love to you xxx.

dingdong, I saw Lesley Phillips on telly the other night and I thought of you

HM, Doris, throck, largegin.......g'day me lovelies.

Mars, get your mules on and get in here will you, we need a large fish pie honey, we have a full house!

Hello all

Sorry not had much time to catch up lately! had a slight mouse problem - all gone now I think - but as the computer is a bit close to where they had been hiding out - there was not much chance of me sitting and catching up.

My babies are one next week - I cannot believe it as a year since I had 2 tiny helpless bundles and now I have 2 cheeky monsters who are so fantastic. They are at such a cute age crawling over each other, pullling toys off each other and chewing each others fingers.

Hi all, hope all is well and will send sleeping vibes to all the non sleeping children! (As long as some one sends some to mine! dd1 was up at 5am this morning!)

Mars - when are you in Blackpool - it is just up the road from me!

Leo, I've had a text from Marsy - she said she's read your birth plan and it's excellent. She'll email you some info, but she has a client in labour and it may be a long one. She asked me to post for you

Evening ladies, how goes it?

DH has had his draft changed, wahooooo! Dont know what to yet but am hopeful it must be better than sending him away for another 4 months. Phew....

DD saw educational psychologist today and she has been diagnosed with severe dyslexia and the number dyslexia (cant remember the name for it, doh!) Good news as they were threatening special schools as she was lagging behind. I knew she was ok really, no one who recites soooo many history facts and has a room that tidy is a muppet. Hopefully they will change their teaching methods to suit her and give her some coping skills to catch up.

Kids all in bed, ds #4 is even asleep! Am so pleased as it's been such a long day. Errands in town, shopping then straight to school for meeting with psyc. No time to unpack shopping so all kids with lunchboxes and shopping in the car after school. I hate that, forgot i had a friend over with her 2 for tea! Am looking forward to bed.

Overrun the twins sound like mine were, it is such hard work. Clearing the room and sleeping bags are the best ideas.

Kelly i used to safety pin the dts babygros together with their vests to stop them undoing them and poo spreading. Why oh why do they that????

FG did you hear Paolo on the radio? He was soooo delish

Hello everyone else, >

Hi every one, really good news Lgandt about the draft, fingers crossed for yout, that it all works out time wise.
I feel hopeful that this sleeping bag thing might just work, so feel more upbeat tonight. Am leaving them to run around their cleared room again, as although there was slight accident last night, I think it might be the way to go.
Planning a lazy evening, bit of Mn and some telly maybe. A glass of rose sounds lovely, ta very much

Just a quick one before I go to bed.

Thank you Hunkermunker !

Rosmerrin - I live just outside Zurich. Came over here to escape London and get some fresh air a few years ago and love it !

FG, help - my sister is coming for 2 weeks after the babies are born.
I get help from a homestart thing here, they will do anything I need, it works out to be about half an hour a day for 30 days.
DS is in nursery 3 days a week.
We have a cleaner 3 hours a week which is enough to do the basics, but we asked her to come and do some extra hours (help with washing) if she can.
SIL is on call to help with DS on the days he is with me and will also help with the babies if she can(she has 4 children of her own though and works 2 days a week).
Neighbour who has 2 teenage boys has also offered to help regularly when I need it and when ds is at home (help me take him to the playground etc).
DH can use his holiday flexibly and then take extra unpaid time when I need him home.
I am planning to ask the girl next door to come and help out with bedtime once a week so dh can play ice hockey.
I feel really spoilt, but still not sure how it will all work and how I will cope! Actually reading through this makes me feel much better, less afraid and I am really looking forward to the babies arriving!

LG&T, good news about the draft and great that you have a proper diagnosis for DDs problems.

Overrun - wishing you a good night...!

Hello to everyone else !

Ah, poo spreading. One of the first things we heard dt1 saying was (through the baby monitors) 'my eyeees! my eyeees!' and we ran in to find dt2 smearing poo on his face (thankfully not actually in his eyes).
Also had to throw away numerous books and things on several occasions and test the durability of many toys in the washing machine. Yet ds1 has never spread poo - is it just a twin thing??

Leo - well done, you sound like a well organised lady who keeps people close. Methinks you will cope well

I reckon poo spreading must be a territorial thing and, since twins have to share so much of their lives, they use it as a tagging system . Dettol is such a clean smell but it ain't nice on the fingertips when you're trying to enjoy your satay sticks

god I feel left out now, mine have never spread poo

estar you just made my evening with your poo spreading story, me and DH are in hysterics on the sofa!!!!!

dingdong, my DTs haven't spread poo either but I do remember DD1 spreading hers all over our hall carpet as I ran her bath. And her darling little sweet kissable mouth all covered in it too.

HM, you are sitting on the couch with your DH???!! Why can't I ever get to that point? How's your sweet baaayby?

I need to do an online shop, shower and sleep. DT1 has been up and down like a yo-yo with her cough though...........

largegin, btw I didn't hear my darling boy on the radio [peeved]. Good news for the health of all other road drivers I guess

I know I shouldn't laugh but the poo spreading has also had me in hysterics. Having said that if any of mine did it I would completely freak out - hence pinning them into the sleeping bags as soon as nappy removal first occured. Unfortunately DT1, now 3.5 (is that 3 and a half or 3 years 5 months, please clarify someone) refuses to poo on the loo and waits either for a nappy at night or his pants when I'm not watching, which is really driving me crazy. I have been told its very common and just to ignore it and that one day he will miraculously go on the loo but I'm not so sure - anyone had to deal with this? DT2 was potty trained at the same time and in the same way so it cant be me (or can it?!)

LG&T - so pleased to hear about your DH - I dont know how you manage - I will never complain about my DH again.

Just remembered on nappy removal that we spent one whole summer with both DTs in dungarees with child proof fastening trying to keep their bots covered - DS3 must be coming up to that stage soon, luckily we still have the dungarees, in fact more pairs that I think DS3 will be able to wriggle out of.

I've not had to deal with poo spreading yet, but after all these stories, I'm rather less impressed than I was this morning that DT1 can now undo her sleeping bag on her own. Both DTs can undo their nappies, but haven't yet managed to work out the poppers on their vests, so hopefully those will keep the poo in the nappies for now.

rosmerrin - my DD1 refused point blank to poo anywhere except a nappy as well. She would simply ask for a nappy when she needed to go and then just do it - crouching on the floor on all fours like she was in labour! Even in front of friends . OH and I both hated it, but we were told to relax - all our efforts to get her to poo on the potty or the loo failed miserably especially when we tried to force her when she would just get hysterical. Then one day she decided she wanted to go without a nappy at night and 2 days later decided she wanted to poo on the potty. She tried to revert to nappies the next day, but I did force the issue then, refusing to give her one till I could tell she was absolutely busting then sitting her on the potty so she had no choice...since then we've had no problems and she's even been at nursery with one of her teachers. Sorry - bit of a ramble, but it is as common as you think it is and there are all sorts of suggestions to deal with it, but going at your child's pace seems to be the best way.

LG&T, glad your DH got things sorted.

Overrun, I have my DTs in sleeping bags for 18-36 months. They're from John Lewis, but I'm sure they do big sizes elsewhere as well. Hope you find some and they help.

hello to everyone else. off to bed now.

rosmerrin, I think its 3 and a half but I'll happily stand corrected........