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largeginandtonic · 16/01/2007 16:19

How are the pox today HM???

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frumpygrumpy · 22/02/2007 16:36

Its not you guys I have a problem with - HELL NO!!! Its the purging my soul to DP who will then have easy access to all my secret ramblings about the MIL (another post to request for deletion when I finally tell him). I mean, two lines from any of my threads and he'd recognise me. I am transparent

Kelly, I find playdates stressful too. Find myself constantly tailed by the friend who seems to want to play in the kitchen with the DTs and not with DD. Then I end up with every man and his wife there while I'm cooking One girl lately made trips up and down stairs filling her pockets with things . All insignificant stuff but nonethless!!

So Mars, tell us how the pixi clan is?

Marscentio · 22/02/2007 22:17

Stop making crappy excuses and prepare the rooms and the lovely repast.

The wee pixies are gorgeous. So so lovely. Pixi is doing very well. She's doing well. Tired... as is to be expected, but doing very well. She even made me something to eat and a gorgeous lemon drizzle cake. She's got it going on. She's amazing. She can't wait to do the meet up at yours FG.

Tonight I'm off salsa dancing! I have an essay to finish by tomorrow evening. Shall we take bets on whether or not I get it done? (The little clue being.... I haven't even written the question on the top of the page... I have, however, written my name!)

Overrun · 23/02/2007 10:39

Hi every one. Wow, such exciting news about the little leos. Can't wait to hear all the details.
FG - you stick to your guns honey
Kelly - Sorry that SS are still on your case, roll on May. As for play dates, mega stressfull I agree. I think that as Mars says, you can decide who you have in your home, but I would be careful about hints. DCs pick up on these things so quickly, and then she might even end up being even more friendly with this girl For what its worth, I also think that sometimes children go for friends who are different from them, so if they are pretty well behaved they are attracted like bees to honey to the naughty ones. Ds1 is a bit like that, he likes to live vicariously YOu may find that your dd's behaviour settles down after the a while, when the novelty has worn off

Overrun · 23/02/2007 10:40

Ah yes, and sympathies Rosmerrin, sounds awful. I really hope that you and your family get well soon

lilbunnybabe · 23/02/2007 11:23

Hi gals, thanks to Marscentio I've found this thread.........I'm a 24yr old mum of gorgeous twin girls (nearly 8mths).......a member of Tamba, and quite regular poster on there, but thought I'd give 'Mumsnet' a go.

Loving being a Mummy so much, especially a multiple mummy, we're extra special!

Anyway, we're just off out to take the girls shopping, but would love to chat to you all sometime!

Em x

Marscentio · 23/02/2007 12:27

lilbunny... my actual MN name is MarsLady but I'm currently sharing a Shakespearean moment with Beetroot (current Beetrooccio or something like that) lol.

Welcome. Have some lemon drizzle cake. Now has FG pulled out her hospitality skills yet?

Have text Leo to demand she post the birth announcement. Honestly... these people. They give birth to twins and act like they are all busy and stuff! lol

Overrun · 23/02/2007 13:17

HI lillybunny, nice to have you with us. Hello Mars, how ya doing?

charleymouse · 23/02/2007 13:49

Hi Ladies, hope you are well.

Congratulations Leo. Sorry I have not been around recently, (bows head in shame and mutters repentance) I have almost felt as though I was tempting fate to be part of a multiples forum. I have managed to catch up with all the posts whilst lurking and have got so much inspiration from you guys. I have now decided that whatever the outcome with these babes I will always consider myself to be the mother of twins. I am currently 26 weeks so they have a fighting chance now don't they?

Budge up as my DD is fond of saying when we are all in bed together; make room on the sofa for a large little one. I am even bringing my own offering of coffee and walnut cake to apologise for lurking. Anyway are you sitting comfortable? Good, well I will begin the saga which is my multiple pregnancy.

We just seem to have been jumping out of the Frying-pan into the fire then back in the pan again. Talk about a rollercoaster of a pregnancy. At the 24 week scan, Twin 1 (exomphalos) was diagnosed with a rotated heart, hole in the heart, dual outlet right ventricle, and a large feeding vein going into the heart that the consultant radiologist had never seen before. DH and I went into meltdown. We tried to be normal over the weekend for DD but it was so hard.

We were referred to a cardiac specialist who we saw on the 12 Feb who said she is 98% sure the heart is fine. It just looks funny as it twisted out of its normal position due to the weight of the liver and bowel being on the outside and pulling it down a little. The large vein is just out of the normal position as it has to go outside the chest/abdominal cavity to get to the exomphalos. This is apparently usual with exomphalos babies. We are back to see her on the 6 March for a further check to assess any change due to babes growth.

We now have the letter from the heart surgeon and she basically plays hell with my consultant for putting me through such a trauma as well as reassuring us all is well (relatively speaking). We were taken to a private consultation room last week and apologised to by the top bods within minutes of arriving. We also met the surgeon who will do T1s op and he seems lovely, we had another scan whilst he was there and the exomphalos is larger than we had initially thought but it is still manageable, he also hasn't ruled out a normal birth either he says we will just keep monitoring things. Unfortunately we were back again yesterday for another scan as they think there is small patch of fluid on T1s chest but they just want to make sure and keep an eye on things there wasn't any development on this so we are now being scanned weekly to monitor.

I made the mistake of getting weighed the other day amidst DH saying "no don't do it". I have put on 12 kg I am not converting it to proper money as it sounds horrendous enough in Kg which I don't understand. I was on a bit of a downer after this but checked in my twins book which said it is good to put on 11Kg by week 24 as this means the two babes should be a good size when they do pop out. They were measured yesterday and they are about 1lb 13oz so hoping they continue to clap the weight on. Obviously I had to have 4 pancakes for dinner on Pancake Day just to keep on target .

On a positive note the barn we have been trying to buy for ages is now actually ours. The solicitor rang this week and we have now completed/exchanged contracts and monies. It has been a lot of a worry as we have paid the builder doing the renovation more than we had paid the vendor up until this point. (The vendor allowed us to start work last summer thinking the exchange would only be a few weeks) If the vendor had pulled out we would have been left in a right pickle and financially screwed. We have maxed our mortgage on our current house to be able to do this and we did not know obviously at the time that I was expecting or that it would be twins, so we are moving to a house which will be bigger than our current one downstairs but smaller upstairs, (we are losing a bedroom) and has no garage. Not sure if this going to work out now there will be 5 of us but will have to make a judgement when we can actually walk round the place and get a proper feel for it. It has been demolished and is now being rebuilt, we should be up to roof level in the next few weeks. Hoorah! Hopefully it will all be ready by the time all of us are out of hospital and due to be back home so we can sell our current house as we won't be able to afford the extra mortgage payments when I'm on my maternity leave.

We also now have a new car, we picked it up at the weekend it is a great big VW thing that will hopefully hold all of us and associated luggage. DH is going to be sat in the middle in the back and we have gone as big as we can without getting a 7 seater. Bless DH, he hasn't really driven since late 1980s after a couple of bumps and he confessed this week he has booked a course of refresher lessons as he is worried about me doing all the driving whilst heavily pregnant/after a possible C section. What a sweetie. I know he is really nervous about it but he is going to have a go. He has had his second lesson this morning, he was trying to keep it a secret but had to ask me where his driving licence was plus he can never keep a secret. I am really proud of him as driving is a real phobia with him. [proud smiley]

I've been sorting out items for my maternity bag as well, regular trips to Boots for various bits and bobs, I'm stocked up with Rescue Remedy, Arnica tablets, various pads for absorbing bodily leakage, bought a new dressing gown and put my flip flops in there to shower in. Not fully prepped yet though. I have cribbed my list (see below) from a fellow MNetter and added a few bits of my own. They also suggested packing your case into subsections labelled with name and contents to avoid DH/MWs having to route through everything to find stuff.

A thin dressing gown, Antibacterial wipes, Arnica, baby wipes, Babygros, Bachs Rescue Remedy, BFing pillow, Book, Breast feeding wrist band, Breast pads, Camera, change for parking and phone, cotton wool balls, Decaff coffee/tea, Drinks, Ear plugs, Eye mask, Flip flops, Hats, large mug, Lots of baby clothes, Maternity Pads, mittens, mobile phone, My Notes, nappy bags, newborn nappies, nighties, nursing bra/s, Old pants/disposables, picture of DD, raspberry leaf tea/tablets, Snacks, sweets, TENS machine, Toothbrush/toiletries/comb, Towels, vaseline/blisteze, Vests.

Can any of you ladies recommend anything that I might need due to this being a multiple birth/possible c section and will definitely mean a stay in intensive care for at least one of the babes and probably a short stay for me? This is going to be a far cry from my booked in homebirth.

I will have to get my life organised now as I feel like I have been in limbo for most of this pregnancy. I've almost been too scared to buy anything; I haven't bought anything new for either babe and only some maternity clothes for myself. I will have to check out DDs stuff and work out what we need and get shopping. I have decided to defer on the double pushchair for a while as so many things are up in the air and T1 is likely to be in hospital for at least a month if they arrive at 37 weeks (predicted date).

We have been through the mill the last few weeks and I feel exhausted but so relieved that things seem to be back on track again. DH says definitely no more kids after this as he can't face the worry again. I think 3 will be plenty though!

Gosh just realised this is an essay so will sign off for the time being. Sorry for going off on one. . PS does anyone want their cake warming up and serving with extra thick double cream? [licking lips smiley]

Marscentio · 23/02/2007 13:59

Charley!!!!!!!!!!!!! So good to hear from you and to hear such good news.

Now where are you based. What you need is me to come be your doula lol

I think a large living space is far more important than lots of bedrooms. You will really enjoy the space to move about it. We have so much more living space here than we've ever had and with the kids growing at the rate that they are it is wonderful.

Don't lurk any longer. We may forgive you esp if the cream is extra thick luxury double cream

Overrun... currently I'm feeling a wee bit like you. Overrun! lol

The DTs are being taken out by DT1's godmother this afternoon. DS1 is in school, DD2 is in France and DD1 and the lovely french girl staying with us are going out around 2-2.30pm. I really need to watch a DVD for my course and write an assignment for tonight. I had planned to do a load last weekend but one of my ladies went into labour. I have another one brewing so I need to pull my finger out. I sat at the computer to watch said DVD (don't think the kids would be too keen on The Cherry Orchard by Chekov lol) but it won't work. So once they've all gone I'll watch it. I just hope I don't fall asleep again like last time.

Went to visit Piximon yesterday. That was lovely. She's so so gorgeous! I'm going to a concert tonight (I know... I should study), but Los Van Van are my favourite salsa band and I'm gonna see them all up close and personal and dance the night away.

Went out to salsa last night... wore a short dress. Normally go in my jeans. Lots of extra dances Amazing what a short dress will do.

DTs.... are ..... well..... DTs. Still cheeky and naughty, but so so gorgeous.

Overrun · 23/02/2007 14:09

Hi Charleey, thanks so much for the update, gosh you really have been through the ringer. I have every thing crossed for you and the dts (do you know what sex they are?)
I agree with Mars, that living space is more important than bedrooms, esp at this stage. Thats very sweet of your dh. My dh learned to drive finally to help with the dcs, he didn't manage to learn in time for the dts birth, but its really helpful having him able now

Overrun · 23/02/2007 14:10

Oh and Mars, yep, thats how I feel every day

throckenholt · 23/02/2007 14:13

Hi Charley - you really are going through the whole gamut of emotions ! What do they do about the exomphalos after birth ? Is that all (as if that was not enough !) that is wrong or are there other associated problems ? Is it related to being a twin ? Is the other twin fine ?

And just being nosey - what do you research ? (I do computer support for university research scientists).

Kelly1978 · 23/02/2007 14:20

It's wonderful to hear from you charleymouse, and I'm so pleased everything is going well for you now. It msut have been such a rollercoaster, and it sounds like you are doing amazingly well - 26 weeks already!!!
You really should be making the most of this time to rest and not be worrying about barns, but it sounds lovely.

Hi lilbunny, welcome to mn. Whereabouts are you located?

cricket · 23/02/2007 14:25

Can't think of anything else to add to your bag Charley - you seem to have covered everything (and reminded me about a few things I have left to get. Arnica - must do it asap!). Glad to hear that you are feeling positive after an awful time of it. You must've been stressed beyond belief. Big hugs coming over the virtual airwaves (or whatever they are).

I am now 36+4 and have had painful period pain-like pains since Weds on and off. Could this be the babies getting ready to go I wonder????

How are you Leo?????

throckenholt · 23/02/2007 14:31

finger crossed cricket.

Lots of new baby twins recently

charleymouse · 23/02/2007 16:04

Hi guys

Mars, thanks for the offer, it sounds lovely especially the looking after/support once the babes have arrived. I'm afraid I might be a bit out of reach though as I live in Nottinghamshire. I had such lovely homebirth plans until the exomphalos rose its head (not really confused by biology honest, but even I don't think liver and bowel can have a head). At least I had my dream home birth with DD1, this one looks as though it will be the complete opposite. I am carefully gathering all the info I can to encourage a VB and 2/3 consultants have said no reason why not it just depends on the size of the abdomen. If that is bigger than the head then they will recommend a section if it is same or smaller they will encourage a VB but probably induced as we are 45 mile from hospital. Definitely extra thick luxury cream, grab a spoon.

Overrun, I eventually asked yesterday whether it is 2 boys, I don't actually want to know but decided I could clear out 2 years worth of DDs stuff if there is no girl in there. I was told to check at the reception for my amnio results but the MW couldn't find them, she said she would look them out so would I remind her next week. I'm not sure whether I will have the bottle to ask next week though.

Throck I have derived a lot of comfort from these little ones all the ones with an E next to their names have had an exomphalos. geeps website
This explains things far better than I could - my explanation is they pop everything back inside and then zip you up. There are associated chromosome problems (1/3 chance of nasty things), heart problems and higher chance of lung problems and more chance of reflux. We had an amnio and that has ruled out the chromosome problems. We have had a paediatric heart surgeon check the heart out who we will be seeing again in a fortnight (all is well at the moment although heart slightly in wrong place and veins having to take convoluted route around the body inside and out to accommodate exomphalos). Most of the examples I have seen have been singletons but one lady has contacted me who has twins one with and one without. The chances of having twins and then one having an exomphalos surely puts me in the minority I would have preferred a lottery win though. T2 looks just fine, everything seems to be okay with him/her. They are measuring exactly the same BPD and only 0.5mm different in femur length. Basically I research anything as we are a full cost centre in a Uni, it is more social research I don't do scientific stuff. I am currently managing a team of fieldworkers across the country working on a project funded by NICE on how the NHS makes decisions - it is really interesting, this is the final year of a 3 year project.

Kelly I can't believe I am 26 weeks already this pregnancy seems to have been going on forever and at the same time it has flown by. I have decided we will worry about the barn when our other priorities don't need worrying about (I guess that will be never then) it is the least of my concerns, it is just a niggle at the back of my mind. I am trying to be more excited than worried. There is a pic of the barn before demolition on my profile page it looks nothing like it now he he.

Cricket, thanks for the hugs, hope those pains go away or turn into productive contractions I was told 37 weeks is classed as term for twins does that sound right? Do you know what you are having? Sorry if you have already posted this pregnancy brain strikes again.

Thanks for all your replies.

tkband3 · 23/02/2007 18:31

Hi all

Sorry for long absence...have had the mother and father of all colds this week - don't think I've felt as bad since before the DTs were born, so there's been a lot of cbeebies and dvds . DD1 has been to a friend's for lunch 2 days, so I have been able to rest whilst the DTs nap which has been a godsend. Just starting to feel human again, but have family this w/e, so thought I'd squeeze in a quick post before I disappear again.

Charleymouse, what a time you have been through! You sound amazingly strong. You're right - 37 weeks is considered term for twins. The only thing I'd add to your hospital bag is something for you to wear to go home in!

Hi lilbunnybabe - it's tracykb from tamba...you've found my hiding place!

HM - sorry haven't replied to your mail, reasons above apply...will do so now!

Rosmerrin, hope flu is better...it's a nasty bug this one.

Hello everyone else...now where is Leo and that birth announcement?

frumpygrumpy · 23/02/2007 18:31

Hi lilbunny, jump aboard, grab a glass of this and a banana and chococlate chip muffin (freshly baked by my own fair hooves) and settle in where the candles are. We always have room for more .

charleymouse, WOW!!! The award for longest post on this thread goes to you . I'm very happy for you and, y'know' I sometimes feel that the more life throws at you, the more relaxed you become because you are forced to be open to many more options and alternatives. Its lovely to hear your update and I have my boobs crossed that things continue to develop well. Lovely to update us x.

Mars, short skirts!!! W-O-W and, I don't do this very often, if ever......... Please post a picture of your legs so I can wish. I haven't worn a short skirt since I was an age that stood alone when you wrote it down.

Fill your glasses girls. Its FRIDAY

frumpygrumpy · 23/02/2007 18:34

oh, and just wanted to add, that I'm glad you have a pic of your DD in your bag. I had mine and put it in the labour room. It got me through, it gave me focus when I struggled, and I just kept thinking how much I love her and how much I was happy to be having 2 more .

Marscentio · 23/02/2007 19:28

Charley... when are you due? If having a doula is an option you can afford then I think you should go for one. Doula UK in case you decide you want one But honestly... if I could get to you I would. I'd get to all of the twin births we're having here if I could. Sigh..............

FG..... photos? Photos? Don't be daft woman! I'll wear a short skirt to the meetup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leo has text again. She's happy and all is well. She's waiting to get home to make the announcement. She says to say that she misses you all.

So.... FG started the betting that it was girls. She put down £2.50. Any one else want to make some bets? And I think you should include weights. That would make me smile whilst I wait for her to put you all out of your misery.

Overrun · 23/02/2007 20:21

Mars, I'm not going to play your game no guessing for me, although I have my suspisions , btw, hope you didn't feel too got at on the other thread

estar · 23/02/2007 20:29

HUGE respect to you charleymouse for handling the anxious situation life has put you in - hard enough to face the prospect of two healthy noisy children at once, but must be so hard when you have complications too. Will definately send some prayers your way!

Just finished reading 'And God created the Au Pair'today - light-hearted chick-lit book about two sisters who e-mail each other everyday with various stories about their crazy children. No twins in it, but one of those books that I love to read and think 'yes, it's not just my life that is manic'. Recommended for travel or hospital visiting etc, as not too heavy for brain to cope with!

dingdongjustforyoufg · 23/02/2007 20:42

Evening all! Back from the deep dark wilderness that is gloucestershire in feb... it will take me a while to catch up properly but have had a quick skim ...charleymouse you are amazing! Far more level headed than I ever was and I had nothing to deal with in comparison rosmerrin hope you are all feeling better, HM sorry to hear work are still being awkward, FG I'm all talk and far too shy to actually talk to real people welcome lilbunny, Mars, am full of awe at wearing of short skirt, I am currently psyching myself up to maybe wear a longish one at my bro's wedding in april kelly sorry you are having a crap time again, the traybake sounds gorgeous though! sorry if I've missed anyone, will re-read properly as I sip my wine - sauvignon blanc anyone?

lilbunnybabe · 23/02/2007 21:31

TraceyKB - sorry alias tkband3, hahahaha have found you......I've been thinking about coming on here for ages, but have never got round to it! Is it possible to divide my time up even more (babas, tamba, mumsnet...ARGH!!!!) Hope you're well anyway!

Kelly1978 - Im in Newcastle...wonderful wonderful Geordieland!!!!

dingdongjustforyoufg · 23/02/2007 21:47

FG we will organise a northern raid - HM can pick me and lilbunny up on her way to bonnie scotland

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