d'ya every wonder how life carried on and on and on.....

[Kelly1978]

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Too much waffling, you know who you are

I jsut wanted to psot to say good luck hm, hope you can hold out, but it really sounds like things are moving. Jsut think you could be cuddled upw ith your baby by tomorrow morning!

Glad to hear dt2 is better, fg.

I could maybe pop mine on this evening, just for 5 minutes or so.........

How do you pull them off again?

You could put Andy Pandy and Looby Loo on Throck's website for mine, just until I'm properly ready to unleash them forever

I mean it, I could maybe do tonight, just for minutes y'understand....... if someone tells me how to pull the plug when I'm feeling exposed.

I was was planning to just replace the picture with something else later this evening.

All the twin pics are just so lovely, keep them coming!

ooh Throck... you can pop mine up if you like. FG... it's not that difficult (says she who gets StG to do it!) Kelly will do it for you if you like and replace it as well.

Personally I think that you should all email copies to me for my own personal DTs file!

The Mars clan are in residence again.

Frumpy - when you want to take your pics down, just find some other picture and upload it onto the thread in replacement.

I'm off out and boy do I need to go out! Have you seen there's a poor MNer whose hv has reported her to social services because her DD has a mongolian blue spot?

It has ignited such a rage in me that I daren't post again cos I will bite the head off of anyone who even vaguely suggests it's not that big of a deal! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Need to take my own advice and breathe...............

In..........................
Out...........................
In.............................
Out.............................

FG..... either pop it up in the next 10 mins or not til the morning as I'm off out and I don't want to miss them.

Remember....... I'm in charge!

Not int he next ten mins, I have a school run to do!

Did I tell you about the time my sw questioned the hives rash on ds, saying they looked like fingerprints. I wonder if some of these people have ever actually seen a bruise in their lives.

Not ready??????? Not ready???????

Right.... I want them emailed to me if I miss them!

DD1 was born by ventouse and was left with a graze just above her forehead as a result. Obviously this was in her notes, but the midwife who came out for her discharge check at 13 days said 'what's this mark? how did she get hurt? or aren't you washing her properly?' I was furious and v. upset (suffering badly from baby blues at the time). Fortunately MIL who used to be an HV was also there and replied indignantly on my behalf as I was in tears.

On a completely separate subject, just wanted to have a proud mummy moment for DD1. After her coeliac diagnosis in May she has gained 3kg (30% of her weight!) and grown 5cm!! She's also been dry for nearly a year, but would only poo in a nappy (sorry if TMI). Suddenly last week she decided to go without a nappy at night and then at the w/e said she wanted to poo in the potty. We've had one small accident first thing since and no nappies since Saturday. I'm soo pleased and proud of her - she's really growing up. She's doing her first Xmas concert on Friday and I know I'm going to need a whole box of tissues. Sorry for the self-indulgence, just had to tell

Tracy, what a lovely post, I love this sort of chat especially at this time of year! Not TMI for me, poo chat is fine .

Mars, I wouldn't dare post until we had an agreed rendezvous, worry not . StG thank you for that info, I could swap their picture for the children from The White Company catalogue afterwards!!

Without doing a search, what is a mongolian blue spot? Its terrible that some HVs make you feel like an utter fool. That is not part of the job.

Mars, what time are you home this evening? Or is that too forward a question . DP is home tomorrow night......

aww that is wonderful news tracy!

a mongolian birth spot is a type of birthmark, common in darker skinned babies. It is flat and has a blueish tinge so can look like bruising.

I read the "you must have bashed your baby" thread. Insensitive comes to mind. Poor girl.

I see. What a shame to be made to feel like this. My DT2 has a large strawberry mark on his back (raised, red and patchy). Luckily no-one has even been anything but straightforward about it. Its a shame that just because something might look like bruising you are made to feel like you have done something wrong. My god, they'll be drowning witches like me soon, innocent if you drown, guilty if you float and then off for tarring and feathering .

lovely to see pics of everyone else's twins

fab news about DD tracy

Hi dingdong, I'm indulging in a glass of white, trying to start baths.....I'm going to be kind to myself tonight and get an early one (after writing every Christmas card). If Mars comes home early enough I might even post a picture of my babes. How's your day been?

Hello fg we've had an up and down day today...DT2 is chesty AGAIN and clingy/weepy with it, DT1 is on another planet, as usual, so although we've had some fun its been hard work, always is if one's off colour and not the other don't you find? I'm off for a glass of white too now, listening to the wind howling round and attempting to book a couple of days in the lakes for DH's birthday - with DTs in tow, before you get too excited

I'm home I'm home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it early enough? Sigh................

How about tomorrow morning at about 9am? Or hmmmmmmmmm I'm out again from tomorrow afternoon until about 11pm.... um........... um........... oh bother! You're just going to have to pop them up when everyone is around (even if I'm not) then you can pop them up for a quick 5 mins when I am!

Tracy... good news about your DD

feeling sentimental today, DTs birthday (seems like its been going on all week!) and have found some pics of them newly home from hospital, have put one on to replce yesterday's pic, indulge me!

Oh FG, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend's DP. Filled when you told about the letter he wrote to his children. Makes me realise again how important family is and how lucky we are to have what we have. For past family reasons I'm extremely protective of my babies' Daddy time and Daddy fairness - but actually they're just really lucky to have him do what he does, cos the past five years of family separation have been for us all so we could live comfortably. Feeling humble. And sad for you. Big hugs.

Just remembered why I was actually here - Pixi and Mars, can we make it Wednesday? Probably ought not to shoot off immediately I arrive at PILs! Am leaving DD at PILs and just bringing boys, so DD can have non-sharing time. Very excited! You'll have to mail me your address again as it's in my Outlook on the old PC at the moment and I can't get it! Thanks, lovely!

Sorry girls, pics will need to wait, I have some mums descending on me to bring donations for DDs friend. One little boy at school came up to me today, took out his wallet, pulled out the only money in it (a £5 note) and said "this is from me, for ***'s flowers, its from my own piggy bank", .

I phoned my friend today to offer to babysit on the day of the funeral. She is so upset, said she had thought about everything (each stage of treatment, up to and including the point of him dying) but had stopped her feelings at funeral arrangements. She is struggling with this bit.

I probably shouldn't be posting all this on here but I wanted to talk to somebody before I burst and I have no desire to start a thread about it as it seems to 'glamourise' (can't think of the word I want) something that isn't my grief.

The DTs are dancing on the kitchen worktop singing twinkle twinkle so I best go and save the kitchen.