D'ya ever wonder how life still carried on like this?

[Kelly1978]

A new thread!
Especially for throckenholt

I was hoping the original one would go to 1000, but it was gettign a but annoying scrolling all the way done, so come over here instead.

How is everyone coping with the school holidays?

I'm fed up with the rubbish weather, as we're stuck in the house too much. I daren't take them to soft play as it packed during the hols and then I can't watch all four of them. Plus it costs a fortune.
Mine are changing so much. Rav is becoming a right wuss, scared of new places. I suppose it shows awareness, but it is annoying when I've driven miles for a nice day out and he just wants to sit and whine because he is too scared to go on anything! Shay is developing his houdini skills, and now has a tendancy to bolt out of parks so I have to watch him like a hawk. I must dig out the reins before we go on holiday.

overrun - yours are nearly 2 and nearly 3.5 ? That is when things started to ease off a bit for us - the twins were more independent and more fun, and DS1 was at playgroup sometimes !

Dts have started school (separate classes, bad mummy) and from next week my nest will be empty for most of the day!

What will I do? Was thinking of being a parent helper in class but that may just be the lack of sleep talking.

Oh thank you for saying that throkenholt, that is just what I need to hear today. It has been horrendous. I end up feeling guilty at the amount of time they all spend in the lounge which has a gate on it and most of their toys. Obviously I am in with them a lot, and they get to go in the garden etc, but as soon as I let them loose, all hell breaks loose.
They managed to break the lock and get into the wine cupboard today, there are other things stored in there as well
I caught them rolling wine bottles down the hall. As soon as I take my eyes off them to start tea or something equally important, it just goes to pot.
They end up both crying and fighting at the gate, and I have to take them out one by one for cuddles, how crap is that?

sounds very familiar. I remember getting tea time was the worst. It was then I resorted to videos of Aunty Mable in Come Outside - they hardly watched TV - so it was a treat and something all 3 were happy to watch. I think that is a time of day when everyone is tired and grumpy so some quiet passive activity suited well.

And it was about that age that they started to get the idea that certain places and things were out of bounds. Which then means you can start removing stairgates - which is wonderful . Hang in there - it will start easing off over the next few months.

Helloooo, I'm baaaack!

I don't want to be back though. I have a gorgeous tan, and I'm shivering in jeans and jumpers. The boys didnt want to come back neither, they screamed blue murder when we got back home. They were pretty ill at first til we put them on formula and baby food and then they settled. They loved the swimming and beach, animal parks etc. Theyve grown up loads in a fortnight, their warmer clothes don't fit now and they are talking loads. Shay keeps shouting (w)'anker' . Daddy was shouting at spanish drivers! Rav loves shouting 'bugger' and 'batman'.

suddenly I am back to looking after 4 on my own and feelign slightly shell shocked. the boys are both poorly too which doesn't help. It's so having to get back to routine.

ds has also been pretty bad the past few days. I think he needs to get back into his routine. He isn't talking and I had to put him in nappies again. He did enjoy most of the hol, only the last day or two got too much for him. I think I am really goin to have to push for a dx when he has his review tho. I have some film of him on the beach in hysterics over sand. he kept runnign back and forth into the sea to wash it off, getting really worked up. Hopefully once he returns to school he will settle more again. He was very lucky tho, he got to meet dolphins at a show and be pulled around in a boat by them. I couldn't believe it when they chose him! I was worried about how he would react, but he loved it.

I've tried to catch up on the thread. Welcoem to the new psoters!
Interesting about the different coloured twins. Mine are quite different, and I've always thought that is prob why I get so many people asking if they are twins. rav is very indian looking, but shay could prob pass for white when he doesnt have a suntan! I'm envious of their colour, they both have beautiful skin tones.

a quik question for mums of mixed race children, does anyone know what could cause white patches? I thought shay maybe had excema to start with, but it jsut looks white, and not itchy or dry. he has a few on his face and around his knees, little patches around the size of a 50p coin.

Hiya Kelly... welcome back.

The white patches.. they should just go. I just put some almond oil on them. They are kinda like ezcema and kinda not.

Glad you had a good holiday. Sorry that the kids are out of sorts. I would imagine that you are a little as well. I hope it all settles quickly.

Looking forward to meeting you in November. Tried to persuade FG...but she made up some pathetic excuse lol
How are your studies? I'm 2 TMAs (well 1.5 now) and an exam away from the end of this year. I've chosen next year's courses. Bon Depart (French) and 19th Century Novel. So that's 90points I'll be doing next year. Mad huh?

Can't wait for the destruction phase to end. My DTs are 2.6ys now and I can't wait for playgroup to restart in September. Their sleeping is a bit rubbish at the moment and I'm seconds away from popping them in jiffy bags and posting them to Antartica. sigh...........

One of my clients is at 2cm and so could give birth any second and I'm due to go on a study day in Croydon on Saturday. Here's hoping she gives birth today (or tomorrow would be great as I'm out with 2 of my favourite friends tonight).

Have a lovely day ladies. I need to find some white trainers for DD1. The joys..........

crazy lady! I'm planning another 60pt course next year and that will be my degree completed. Luckily I got ahead before I went away, so I have two weeks work, a tma and then the exam left to do. Will be so glad when it finished for the year.

antartica sounds tempting. all rav wants to do atm is sit on the desk and yank my braids and giggle! I had them done in spain, so much easier for hol, what with being in and out of the water, but they are itching like mad now and I am getting very tempted to take them out. Or rav will do that for me!

I'm really looking forward to nov too do you think fg might be a hairy handed trucker ?!

hmm 2cms, is it her first? I was 2cms for days with dd.

oh and thanks for the tip, will try almond oil.

It's her second! So I'm hoping baby is born before I go study.... (esp as I have a night pass... could do with escaping my wee terrors for a night of unadulterated alcohol lol)

I still have 3 years OU to go which is why I thought I'd do 90points so that then I only have 2 to go. Of course I also want to do a breastfeeding counselling course as well... and that is another major study block. Ah yes.... crazy's my name!

ooh a night pass, I haven't done that in two years - roll on November!

I managed 120 for my first two years, but I didn't have other stuff as well, just kids, pg and babies!

I am curious though, why the degee and the doula stuff at the same time? what will you do with the degree?

if she isn't, my other theory is that she is soemone famous, who is keepign a low profile. Gorden ramsey is scottish and has twins, maybe she is married to him!

Oh girls, I'm having such a bad bad, horrid day. Everything and I mean everything has gone tits up today and I was going to say I'm ready to scream but I've actually been screaming silently inside for the past two hours. I don't need to go into details its the usual, DTs causing major distruction of my home, I am trying to do waaaaay too much and getting my pants in a tangle, fed up doing it on my own day and night, rain and roadworks made the school run hell, cleaning woman let me down 2 weeks in a row, had two very very unhelpful people on the phone, shiny new PC not been working and man came today to repair it and I ended up smiling and saying "would you like a cup of tea" then made it and took it upstairs with my best "I'm fine" smile on and a twix finger. Why can I be so bloody nice even when I'm on the edge and others find it so easy to be rude????

aaaaahhhhhh, Better now, had to get it out.

KKKKkkkkkkeeeelllllllyyyyyy!! Show us your white bits, I know you want to.

HAIRY HANDED TRUCKER , L M A O. That made my day, and its the first thing to make me smile. Look! I'm showing you my pants! Hairy handed truckers could never wear them!! Gordon Ramsay would maybe do for a quick "howsyourfather" up a dark alley but he's not got anything deep enough for me in his head department. He has 4 kids so is definitely nothing to do with me .

HM I'm sorry if my last post sounded a bit short. I was typing fast and had to run in a hurry and then the PC stopped working. Keep going, reassurance and as little attention as you can get away with. Have you changed anything with the day sleep? My DT2 slept marvellously until the holiday and now is going through a dodgy phase. Luckily DT1, who doesn't sleep as well, is going through a good phase but it still means I'm up at night. I'll send yours sleepy vibes when I'm up

FWIW, I think Pippin and Aunty Mabel are family and there should be no limit to seeing them

my white bits are not a pretty sight! I got lobstered (acciudently) laying on a beach by the mar del menor and so have nice vivid bikini shaped white bits Its great that flabby thighs look so much slimmer with a tan though

glad you not married to gordon ramsey - the man is repulsive. It would have to be pitch balck for me to go newhere near him! Bleugh!

for some reason the only thing my dts will watch on tv is big cook, little cook. I have no idea why! shay gets transfixed by it.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH

I cant take the sleep deprivation anymore!!

Yesterday DH went into hospital for a septoplasty (played a lot of rugby in younger days and has not been able to breathe through his nose for about 15 years) so my parents came over to "help" with the twins due to the sleep issues.

DT2 woke up at 9.30 screaming so I put him in the travel cot in another room and then we all went to bed. At 11.15 he woke up, I went and dealt with it. At 1.45am he woke up, I went and dealt with it. My parents SLEPT THROUGH EVERYTHING. AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

Anyway last night was night 2 of the not getting them out of bed, not giving them any milk, just lying them down regime. How long is it supposed to take?

And now that I have emerged from my self-obsessed cocoon - hello everyone and welcome back Kelly! I am going on hols to Cornwall in a week, that will be fun if the DTs are still having sleep issues!

Hi all, I am having a crap time today as well, perhaps its just a matter of running out of patience towards the end of the holiday. My three year old could whinge for Wales.
Yep teatime is certainly the worse. We were all eating as a family once dh got in a ten past six, I have given up on that. I just cannot stand another day of the screaming and crying while I try and cook something. So it is back to nursery teas and dinner in the middle of the day. It's just not worth it.
My really annoying problem today, is that the suitcase belt that we secured around the telly/dvd cabinet has drooped and got caught under the cabinet, so it no longer prevents them from opening the glass door and fiddling with the equipment.
A little thing, but it means that I cannot leave them for a second, and meanwhile I have to find time to pack for the weekend and cook two dishes to take to the family get together.

will read and post shortly. 1b1b is in labour on another thread. It's too too too exciting!

Oh ladies... I'm sorry it's all going tits up for you all.

Wish I could help.

The DTs sleeping will come honey... takes about a week. You should be sorted in time for the holiday. (Everything crossed for you)

Big hugs and kisses to you all. And FG???????????? Please....honey.....keep your pants to yourself.

Damn, a live birth!!! I've got to leave in 15 minutes. I'm popping over to that thread to stick my oar in , I mean offer my best wishes.

HM, some help eh! Will they cook dinner, wash up and entertain? Yeah, I'd keep repeating for at least a week. My kids sleep paterns hav always been thrown out with holidays so you might need to start all over again when you return. But thats just me, it might be fine, and personally, I'd continue with the same stuff on holiday. Good luck honey.

Hi overrun. What is in the air today? Repeat after me, tomorrow will be better, tomorrow will be better (in my case it won't, next week will maybe).

Right I'm getting towels and hot water....

maybe move the travel cot in with your parents? Seriously it sounds a nightmare, I really do hope you get sorted soon. Mine have been out of sorts since the first few days of the hol when they were sick, and it is a bit of a fight to get them back in routine. I'm doing the same as you and I think it is slowly gettign there.

they are such hard work arent they. I'm finally eatin g bfast cereal at 2.12 in the afternoon as mine have now gone bed!

Mine are asleep as well, the little darlings and I am in no hurry to get them up

Hi - just thought I would say hello through the fog of sleeplessness that is my life now. My DTs are nine weeks old. Can someone please tell me that this gets easier?? Reading some of your messages, I have a sneaking suspicion it doesn't.
I'm feeling particularly pathetic today. I had roughly an hours sleep last night but needed to take babies to the baby clinic. It all sounds so simple in theory, but it was hell. Both screamed for the entire two hours it took me to get them ready. I did full bath/feed/dressing extravaganza, reckoning that I need to show health visitor I was coping. Ha! Then I realised there were no bottles made up to take with me and DH had left buggy in the boot of the car. Oh and DT1 threw up everywhere and needed changing AGAIN. By the time I left the house I was almost in tears - but the final straw was when I actually got there to be told the baby clinic was so busy that they weren't seeing anyone else. So I've got to go through the same rigmarole next week.
It seems ludicrous that such a small trip (the surgery is only 15 minutes down the road) can cause me such aggro, and I'm feeling completely disillusioned about my ability to do this. Am I normal, or just supremely crap at getting organised?

yikes, insommniamum, no wonder you are stressed! Don't bath them unless absolutely necessary and tll the HV clinic to send soemone out to you. Or, unless there isd a compellign reason for them to go to baby clinic don't bother at all! My dts haven't been weighed since they were two months, at their vaccination. They have nbever been to baby clinic. As long as they look healthy and are growing there is really no need to worry.

one newborn is hard enought and twins is bloody hard work, don't put pressure on yourself to run like clockword, it's best to relax and go with the flow. 1 hour is crap, can you sleep when they do during the day? This bit is really hard, and then it gets easier for a bit, then they sudennly start moving, and it gets harder again! but it is all much easier to cope with if you aren't sleep deprived.

oh and don't dress them nether! babies love snuggly sleepsuits. they throw up or leak poo often enough that they get a change at least every 24 hours, so leave it at that.