D'ya ever wonder how life still carried on like this?

[Kelly1978]

A new thread!
Especially for throckenholt

I was hoping the original one would go to 1000, but it was gettign a but annoying scrolling all the way done, so come over here instead.

How is everyone coping with the school holidays?

I'm fed up with the rubbish weather, as we're stuck in the house too much. I daren't take them to soft play as it packed during the hols and then I can't watch all four of them. Plus it costs a fortune.
Mine are changing so much. Rav is becoming a right wuss, scared of new places. I suppose it shows awareness, but it is annoying when I've driven miles for a nice day out and he just wants to sit and whine because he is too scared to go on anything! Shay is developing his houdini skills, and now has a tendancy to bolt out of parks so I have to watch him like a hawk. I must dig out the reins before we go on holiday.

Piximon - thanks for passing that info back, I didn't know that.

just popping in to say hi - I keep losing track of this thread - it moves so quickly .

Will try and wade through it and catch up today.

Hello all, yesterday was bad, when i picked up DD from school her teacher ran out to talk to me. I wasnt worried she has never been in trouble and loves school. Her teacher said that phin was still very behind with everything and they didnt feel that she would be ready to move up to the juniors in sept next year. She suggested i start thinking about a 'special' school. I knew she was struggling and gets lots of extra help but had no idea that it had got so extreme, she is only 6, and only been at school for 18months!

Anyway i phoned my sister who is a special needs teacher and asked her what she thought, she said not to worry phin would be assessed by an educational Psychologist (she is in Jan) and would get a diagnosis, then to take it from there. Phin does not fit in to any pattern though, she is bright, sociable, knows the words to every Madonna and suga babes song. Her language is great and she is empathic with others. Apparantly children with learning disabilities usually lack in another area than purely academic, even if they are aggressive and disruptive as they get frustrated at not being able to grasp the tasks in school. She is none of those, she is quite distracted and dreamy but does try hard. Aaaaaagh, i was very worried, but came to the conclusion that if the school get difficult and refuse to take her i will home school or look in to private education for her.

So today i feel better, it was just a shock i think. I dont know anything about the situation really as i have never come across it before. The dts went to school reading and writing their name, and are above average in everything. Its hard not to compare but i cant help it sometimes.

Anyone know anything about it? Kelly what happened with you? Did it get that far?

Think they do a double phil and teds now, saw it on their website. I have a phil and teds and love it, i would have been distraught if this baby had been twins and i couldnt use it. I would probably have crammed them in to the lie flat bit while they were tiny, but i am kinda mean....

Sorry for long post

Hello every one.
Frumpy, I really really know where you are coming from. It is so hard sometimes, and I too start to question myself. It's reassuring to know that other children fight a lot. My dts still do, dt1 had three bite marks on him when I got him ready for the bath. DT2 has taken to pushing dt1 off the breast when I am feeding them, so hard it make dt2 head snap back. Needless to say, I don't let him have anymore milk after that.
I think ds1 wants to be a baby because, its a way of coping with them. he is clearly overwhelmed sometimes.
It is all so hard sometimes, hang in there. It must get better. Surely if we deal with these problems well (like you are clearly doing) then it could ultimately strengthen our childrens relationships. Better than cold indifference is yswim
Largegin, what a terrible shock for you. Surely you should have been given more warning that this was going to be recommended. Your daughter sounds lovely, I thought that children with recogonised disabilies were schooled in the mainstream these days, so why are they trying to exclude your daughter, who doesn't really fit into that catergory from what you say.
Sorry to anyone I have missed out.

Hi girls. Thanks for all your lovely words of support. DT2 had an awful night and seems a tiny bit better today.

Tracy I do have medised, thanks for the pointer though, but had given him calpol at 10pm so couldn't give him any until 2am. Then we finally got some sleep around 2.30am. He was nearly hysterical at points . He is my one good sleeper (normally) and I think being awake throught the night really unsettles him, combined with the itch and DP (he came home late last night) trying to take a turn it all got horrid. Anyway, I'm trying to be more upbeat today. DT1 was in nursery today which quietened things a little and what a difference that made. Tonight cannot be any worse and I'm doing a medised dose before bed!

You girls are amazing you know, always so kind and supportive and it really, really helps when the shit hits the fan.

Overrun what age is your DS1?

largegin I'm sad the school didn't talk to you about this a little earlier .

Hi HM, how's your belly for lovebites?

Leo, we have a cleaner (reluctantly as I like doing it myself but without DP here I just wasn't getting through what I wanted to, my problem is I don't clean I clean, tidy and reorganise and get little done in doing so!!!). I find mine is better if I leave a specific note each week. The problem is that the note is the same each week.....

Pixi "just a few bits to dig out from the garage" pmsl at the thought of what on earth you are taking to hospital .

Kelly, what's up? We're still here for you even if your issue isn't specifically DT related.......

Must practice one liners......

"Hi all, better today, thanks for that"

calling Triplets, we need you....

positive thought for the day...I did a link first time, yabloodyhooo

hello everyone,

I've had a hectic week. Vaccinations yeserday - I'm a total wuss when it comes to baby jabs and after a bad experience with the first ones in Croydon I kept putting htem off. But the boys were so good and so far no side effects

dd had her opthamologist appointment today. Her eyesight is very good and her squint is so slight that it isn't worth worrying about. They're going to have her back in a few months jsut to check that she doesn't need glasses and isn't straining but she could read the whole chart and passed so it looks good. With that and her hearing both checking out fine it turns out that I'm not such a bad mummy for not getting to the appointments sooner, so that will be a big plus when it comes to the review.

the dts are little terrors as usual. I forgot to lock their cupboard earlier, and when I walked in shay goes 'Look...bad baba!' He knows so why does he pull everyhting out!! Rav's favourite word atm is bugger. (he couldn't say buggy and we laughed and so encouraged him . Blame it on the boogie was on the radio today and he got all excited and started shouter booger, booger, booger!

My only down point is that I am really not sleeping well. I never did finish the sleeping tablets and I am tempted to take them again. I'm exhausted from lack of sleep but when I do get an early night I end up awake by 3 or 4 and lay awake for hours. SS are still putting a lot of pressure on, had another core group meeting tuesday and sw is visitng today to review dp with the older kids in the hope that the supervision agreement will be lifted. . We have a fortnight until the case conference review, but it is a month early because of other comitments by the chair so it isn't likely they willg et off this time.

sorry to hear abotu the difficulties you've been having largeginandtonic. My dd struggled but we've been lucky taht the school have provided a lot of help. Why did she only start school 18 mnths ago? Did she attend a pre-school? I wonder if they are expecting too much from her. dd was behind because of a crap reception year where she really learned nothing. She was given support through remedial literacy and numuracy classes in small groups. I wonder if you shoudl see a developmental paediatrician? It might be askign your GP to refer her. You haven't really said what she is struggling with in particular at school, but if she is bright special school seems a bit extreme. I do hope you get somewhere, have you tried posting on special educational needs for more ideas?

Hi, just a quick one. FG, he is three and a half.
kelly - sounds tough. YOu never know they might be taken off the register this time. Hope it works out for you, one day you will look back on all this as in the past and just a bad set of memories.

hello everyone, what a week we're all having!

G&T I'm really sorry to hear how badly the school have mishandled your dd's situation, don't let them get away with it! Teachers are pretty bad for making off the cuff comments that they haven't really thought through properly IME (as one of them!)

FG hope the medised does its stuff tonight, I think I will doing the same for DT2 who has an on/off vaguely asthmatic but not really so we won't diagnose anything sort of a cough and its just started up again this pm. Also, if its any consolation, I am a complete control freak too, won't let dh do anything cos he'd only make a complete pigs ear of it

Kelly glad you have some more positive news

DTs have been little madams today again, after I spent 3 days getting them back in line they spent about 7 hours in company of PILs yesterday whilst I had to work but on bright note they won't be back there this year unless we're with them

We took them to see the gruffalo on weds, it was fab - they were great at growling (although DT1 did it out of sync with all the others, a lone growl in the theatre

Hi everyone - it does sound like everyone is having a nightmare few days, my heart goes out to all of you!

I took the DTs to a friends for lunch today as it was her birthday. They had a sort of kids party first and then we sat down for lunch. One of the ladies left their glass of Bucks Fizz on a low table in the lounge and DT2 came in stinking of orange and with liquid all down his front. He has since been acting loopy all afternoon so I think he may have helped himself to the bit that was left!

Still no sign of baby no.3......

LOL hm, hopefully no hangover tomorrow

hope no 3 arrives soon, you must be getting well and truly fed up with the wait poor thing

lol at alchy baby! Maybe it will lead to a good nights sleep Poor you HM still the baby must be very happy where it is, keep planning nice days and its bound to come when you dont want it to!

Everyone is having a rough time, naughty fighting twins seem to be everywhere. My two fight still but not usually the wrestling to the floor and trying to bite each other any more. We have moved on to ignoring each other (drives each other mad) hiding fave toys, copying each other (quite funny till they start doing it to you), finishing each others sentances and the one to cause most arguments, telling me something they have done, got, found before the other has a chance. It is a sure fire way to send each other in to a frenzy.

Despite all that they do play together very nicely most of the time even though they have quite different interests. Dt1 likes reading and spends hours devouring new books whereas dt2 would rather be playing doctor who and zapping everything with the sonic screwdriver. Ds #3 locked himself in the bathroom yesterday and dt2 zapped the lock with his scewdriver! It was very funny despite a hysterical 4 year old on the other side of the door....

Sorry for long post, and i hope you are not too scared by the fact at 8 they are still fighting, it does get more entertaining though. They dont raid the toilet duck any more or squeeze the toothpaste out in my shoes

HM thanks for sharing the bucks fizz story, that is hilarious!!

LOL at the drunk DT!! Bit concerned to hear the fighting hasn't stopped by 8 but at least you can reason with them at that age....

Well my day has been ok, but think tonight's going to be pants. OH went up to the midlands to see his dad and he's going to spend the night with his mum, hopefully back tomorrow, but haven't spoken to him yet so don't know. DT1 has chosen tonight to be ill - so far has been sick twice, once while getting ready for bed, once in her cot. She hasn't eaten much today, so has obviously been feeling a bit crap. She did have a couple of pieces of sausage for tea though - hope they didn't make her ill, cos guess who finished them off ...will not be happy if I'm ill as well.

Kelly - hope your meet with SS goes ok next week...you are so strong and deal with so much that I feel bad for moaning about my trivial woes.

FG - hope the pox is improved and the medised works tonight.

LG&T - sorry to hear about your DD's probs...no experience of this as mine are all too young for school, but hope you get something sorted soon.

Piximon - I had a nipper double to start with which I LOVED, still do really. V. v. v. light and easy to steer (probably even easier if you get the new one with swivel wheel) and the hood is strong enough for my (light) 3 y.o. to sit on when she gets tired! Suitable from birth, only thing is you need quite a big boot to fit it in without taking the wheels off, and the shopping basket (which is extra) is crap!

Leo - lovely to hear from you. I also have a cleaner - tried to do it all myself but just ended up more stressed and with a dirty house as well. I get v. frustrated if something isn't done right as well, but have now found a new girl who is fab. I'm the same as you though - have previously fumed quietly without saying anything as found it too awkward.

Hello to everyone else!

How are you all this evening, fg, how is it shaping up, has the medised done the trick?

Off to bed now to try and sleep while I can. DT1 has been sick 3 times now but nothing for an hour or so so fingers crossed. DD1 is playing up and won't sleep in her bed, so am taking the line of least resistance and letting her sleep with me - I know I'll regret it tomorrow but haven't got the strength to start arguing with her.

Have just stuffed my face with a bag of crisps, a twix and some sweets and feel sick now - hope it's just the junk food and not me coming down with the bug...last thing I need.

Here's hoping for a better day for all tomorrow.

xx

you poor thing tracykb, hope you are feeling ok and got some sleep

when DT2 fell asleep on my lap at teatime yesterday I thought I was in for a rough night, but she slept until 3am, got up for a wee then slept again til 7.30, bless her, she must have been exhausted!

hope everyone else is ok and has a better weekend than the past week

Ooh that Mars has now lured my DH over with the promise of a home cooked meal. It's been so long since I cooked properly he was drooling and looking very smug when he left. I hope that's what the gleam in his eye was all about...

{shock] piximon!!! She has a new pink negligee

Thanks overrun, he's not improving as fast as the girls did but he did sleep all night (I think probably major exhaustion from the night before). I didn't even need the medised. He does usually sleep through illness so when he's up I know its bad. DT1 however, slept dreadfully again so I was still up with her 3 times and once for DD to have a wee! Does anyone else (apart from Mars who can juggle fire) feel that a social life would just be an inconvenience!!?

Tracy, how is the illness in your house? May the bug pass quickly and not spread.....

Maarrsss! Thats not polite at this time of day!

MrPiximon is a delicious young man. He fixed all my PC woes and I love love love love love him!

I gave him a large bowl of homemade soup and wiggled my pink tassles in his face. HD would understand... he's seen my turquoise negligee!

Have had a very busy few days. I went to a birth workshop with one of my clients last night. It was brilliant! I'm currently on call for 2 mums and I need them to come separately. Both lovely women. Really hoping they have good (short) births!

DT2 currently has a horrid cold.. though it seems to be vanishing. DT1 is currently terrorising him! DD2 is on a TV ban for playing up for the babysitters. DD1 is lounging about trying to find out why we don't all think she is as fabulous as she thinks she is. DS1 is in Reading playing Rugby for school and won't be back till late.

I'm catching up on all my email and my doula paperwork. Planning a wee spot of salsa tonight after the meetup!

Enjoying my french course and am currently green with envy cos my BF has gotten a bright red scooter! I've always wanted a scooter! Sigh.......

Now FG you asked me a question: let's see

What was the age difference between your 3 before the DTs? 11, 9 and 5.
Did they bicker and argue and complain about one getting and the others not? Yes, yes and yes
And, most importantly, did they come through that to a plateau where they still fell out but in a more reasonable way?

Hope that helps babe. DS1 is about to be 14 and it's amazing how he can fight and argue with the others. They are all the same... wee beasts the lot of them.

Sorry for those of you that thought it got better. The warfare just becomes more sophisticated that's all!

Well last night wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Managed to get DD1 back in her own bed and only went into DTs 2x to settle them, but no more sickness...till this evening - DT2's turn tonight. She hasn't eaten much today so obviously has been feeling off-colour. So am just hoping we don't have a re-run of last night. Still OH is back for support, although is understandably stressed and out of sorts. FIL still in hospital - scans showed a large mass in his pancreas, so discussions to be held on Monday/Tuesday with all the medics to see what should be done...

FG - sorry to hear you still didn't get a decent night last night. Know what you mean about social life - what's one of them then? I have a social life one night a week at slimming world .

Mars and anyone else who's going - have a fab time this evening (although you've probably already left, so hope you had a good time last night

sob, perhaps we can have our own virtual meet-up on here for those of us that arent in the big smoke.

Anyone want to share a can of orange, mango and peach crush with me?

Would love to HM, cant believe it is another sat night and im home alone. Am very disappointed with my life choices at the moment, for example had the opportunity to buy a huge box of all gold dark in the coop on friday, on a bogof, i thought 1 for me and a box for a pressie. Did i get it....no, so am furious with self for such reckless abandonment of my own happiness.

Also have stinking head cold, it is so bad i had to take a childs sachet of lemsip as i could not see to make the 5 mini beasts their tea, not sure if the tiny 16 week baby im carrying will ever forgive me.

Pants... anyone got a choccie spare?