D'ya ever wonder how life still carried on like this?

[Kelly1978]

A new thread!
Especially for throckenholt

I was hoping the original one would go to 1000, but it was gettign a but annoying scrolling all the way done, so come over here instead.

How is everyone coping with the school holidays?

I'm fed up with the rubbish weather, as we're stuck in the house too much. I daren't take them to soft play as it packed during the hols and then I can't watch all four of them. Plus it costs a fortune.
Mine are changing so much. Rav is becoming a right wuss, scared of new places. I suppose it shows awareness, but it is annoying when I've driven miles for a nice day out and he just wants to sit and whine because he is too scared to go on anything! Shay is developing his houdini skills, and now has a tendancy to bolt out of parks so I have to watch him like a hawk. I must dig out the reins before we go on holiday.

FG that sounds really crap. Have you tried raspberry leaf tea? It can help. Tastes nicer if you put mint in with it as well. Agnus Castus can help too (take it as a supplement). I'll get DH to have a quick look in the bible at the shop to see if there's anything else that can help. Could try staying off refined foods before your period too as they can make you feel bloated and depressed. Whole grains can work better, and also oily fish to get some of the Omega oils - they help with the down feelings. And of course a good glass of wine does too! (I'm so looking forward to being able to drink something again! I do drink a little in pregnancy but haven't been able to face it this time - along with coffee and oats???!) Actually oats are quite good for period stuff too - morning porridge?

And hey, I don't even have twins yet, but I have things on my to do list from 4 months ago (anything older than that just kind of gets left behind as unimportant...).

Anyway, thank you both for your thoughts. I actually agree wholeheartedly and it's exactly what I'd say to someone else! Always so different when it's yourself. The midwife didn't even mention induction to me today, so the question didn't even come up - phew! I'm going to have another scan next week to keep the mw happy, and having heard heartbeats today I'm feeling much more comfortable again and back to normal. I didn't even have to wave my Egyptian research! You're both absolutely right about feeds too - thank you for being voices of reason yet again!!

By the way, Kelly, how are things going?

Hi,
Just catching up with you all, the tone is def a down one, come on cheer up! Just think of me, mine were delivered at 32 weeks, one was 4lb 3oz, one was 4lb7oz and one 2lb 15oz! They stayed in scuba for just over 3 weeks then all came home together. I expressed milk around the clock, decided not to attemp to actually breast feed for many reasons, had enough milk to fill 27 small bottles a day, yep, they had an average of 9 feeds each a day. After three months I couldnt keep up so it was over to formula, we ended up buying a small camping fridge just to keep their bottles in. We also kept a record book on each baby and filled it in daily, how much they had taken, pooed etc, which may seem extreme but often when we literally couldnt keep our eyes open we would forget who was due a feed! Someone said to me tonight it must have been hell, but I honestly loved it, this is the hard part, three times eight yr olds, stress stress stress!!! But also joy joy joy! xxx

Oh, and we actually kept their record books going every day for their first year, nice now to look back on.

Once again I BOW before you triplets. And again I say RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are my true hero!

Well done... I'll be buggered if I can even remember where the DTs red books are, never mind keeping any journals etc. Respect!

Mars

Get back to your books.

OH Marslady please stand up! I am not worthy of all this adoration and praise, it was the 2 pints of Guiness a aday that kept me going

and she drank Guiness! I drank Guiness!

Oh Marslady, we are kindred spirits......hic! Still love a drop of the stuff now, in fact I meet my mum in the pub on Frid mornings ,everyone sits there with their coffee and I have my half, my Dad would be proud of me!

I used to get awful looks and comments as I downed my Guiness in the smoky pub whilst pregnant lol.

Did you know that Gwyneth Paltrow was castigated in N America recently for drinking Guiness in a Sushi Bar before her son was born?

Night night everyone xxx

No I didn`t know that, shame on her! Nighty night xx

Nighty night babe (though her people denied she ate any sushi... but said yes to the Guiness.... Good girl!)

Hiya! Just catching up. (Hey. I drank Guinness too-hmmm,maybe its a multiple thing )
Yesterday was MY day. Twins at pre-school & dh working,bliss . Pre-school today too but dh off so not quite so good (don't tell him I said that though )
FG unfortunately dd4's heart condition isn't "fixable". Her main problem is that she has small lung arteries. She's had 3 ops so far to help increase the blood flow but they are still small & nothing more can be done surgically at the mo . Despite this though she looks pretty good & there is always a possibility of something being done in the future. I can post a picture later if you like?

hi triplets.

I expressed for my twins too (35 weekers 3,15 and 5,5 - so not quite as small as yours). I had to write down how much each had had and when as well - there was no way I could remember ! Have to say I wasn't organised enough to do it in a book - usually on the back of a cereal packet . And I only did it for the first few months, until I was confident they were ok - then we just winged it. I mixed fed (EBM/formula) for 9 months - and pretty much just fed on demand as I would have done if I was breast feeding. Looking back I have no idea how I actually did it .

I guess every age has it's challenges. Mine are at the constant talking stage - making this house altogether TOO noisy.

How can i keep up with oyu all when you go to bed so late !

FG - hope you are feeling better today.

Guinness, mmmm, could definitely do with some of that, only seen it in pubs here though and would much prefer to be at home at the moment than in some smelly pub.... how times change! The whole feeding thing just sounds a nightmare to me! Found it really boring sitting for hours feeding ds when he was small, got fed up with daytime tv and didn't have a brain to read a book then. I did master feeding him while tidying up, catching up on mn though, but how the hell can you do that while feeding 2 of them! Can't even work out how you can feed 2 at a time anyway except when they are really tiny.... oh well, all will become clear!
17+2 weeks pregnant now !

leogaela... you don't do the house with newborn twins. You either get help (I got a cleaner and now refuse to be without one) or you adopt a laid back attitude... (which is what I do on the 6 days that the cleaner doesn't come - though if it got too much I'd get her to come a second day).

Just plan to do nothing. Now who was it said to put a box of postcards at the door with jobs on each one? Then when your visitors come they can rifle through (the postcards not your knicker drawer) and choose the job that they like and do it! Wonderful... why did no-one ever tell me?

Right... time to get the DTs ready for playgroup and then off to revising in a greasy spoon. I'm getting a huge liking for bacon and toast sandwiches with builders tea! Yum Sadly no Guinness.

My exMIl tried to get me to drink guiness when pg with dd - vile stuff!

leogala, re feeding two - you use lots and lots of cushions! I got loads of cheap pillows to help prop them up. It isn't so bad once you get going.

I'm worried about dt2. He is really quiet and withdrawn. He seems very confused about everythign that is going on, and he has always been a daddy's boy and I think he is missing him. I got an unexpected call from the cm this morning to arrange pick up (useless social worker who told me no mroe cming!). Shay was distraught when he had to go. He only seems happy at Daddy's and I hate seeing him like this.

Keeping records I didn't have a clue, esp when still feedign them on the breast. Once I started expressing it was easier. In fact at one point in a mastitis induced haze I got them totally mixed up and had to wait for dp to come home to decide which baby was which! Those early days were jsut a whirl, but we all get through them.

aww - Kelly - poor little DT2 - can he talk to DP in the phone ? Maybe you could think of setting up webcams so that they can see each other when using the computer ?

Triplets - we did the record keeping with our DTS. I found some of it the other day and it made really heartwarming reading, they're nearly 6 now, and also made me wonder how the hell I'd done it, they were feeding at different times and every 2 hours! Remembering "2.15am - pooh HURRAH!" after a 2 day constipation!!! LOL.

I would love more twins, love, love, love.

I love hearing about the other twin mums. It makes me feel normal.

Congratulations to all the twinmums to be!

, I am partial to a little thimblefull as well. Couldn't manage a pint but a half ....... deeeeelicious.

I too did the record keeping. It was just to hard to remember where we were with it all (I mixed breast and bottle and wanted to keep it fair). I kept my sheets too and love looking over them. It meant whoever happened to be in the house knew what was required as well and I was known to bark "that one needs a feed but could you change this one first and pop her into the swing while I fetch DD from playgroup after I've done a wee and shoved on some clothes" before I even said "hi, how are you, hows life" . Sigh, it was love/hate for me but I do miss it in a funny way.....

DD is off school sick and the DTs aren't well and I feel crap having been up round the clock (dd stopped vomitting at 3am) and alone again. I think maybe I'm getting THE BUG and thats why I was a bit down yesterday. I'm on survival mode now so thats taken my mind off me. Washing machine is going like the clappers and Calpol shares have rocketed. Going to try to grab 40winks before the DTs get up from the nap they are, noisily, not having.

Do post a pic CATJ, that'd be nice.

Doris, thanks for the suggestions. I have been attending a herbalist for a while but not yet found a mix that has hit the spot. She has moved out of town as well and I'm considering whether to have a consultation by phone or maybe try a homeopath. I tried one a long time back and had quite good results.

I'm warbling.....feel brain dead.....just normal .

Triplets - YIKES - did you automatically grow an extra boob? . Where do you keep it now?

Kelly, thats a shame, he must be all confused. Any word on when DP can come back? Is it up to you?

Mars......Mars...... there used to be someone called Mars on here but she's studying and revising like mad......

Kelly, that's so rotten for the poor child. Don't know if it's any help but can you make sure he telephones Daddy every evening before bed? We've done that ever since DD was born (obviously she wasn't talking back quite that early on) and especially now it means such a lot to her to at least tell him about her day and what she's done. The conversation is often a little bizarre but it does help her with missing Daddy during the week. I hate it when she tells me that she misses him.

Liked your exploding cauliflower on the other thread, by the way. I did a sack of cement on the kitchen floor just after DD was born. Left it for DH to clear up too... Memories, memories...

Leogala - my SIL has sent me an inflatable feeding cushion for twins - I'll give you the verdict shortly! It's square and clips round the back of you and you can use it hands free. You can have a look at it on 2became4.co.uk. Multiple Birth Foundation have info on feeding twins, but the best info and pictures that I've come across so far in a theoretical kind of way is in the Elizabeth Noble book. (Obviously anything I say should be taken with a pinch of salt because I've only read, not actually experienced it yet! )

As you've probably realised I haven't given birth yet! Tried the curry on Monday (yummy fish one), did some gardening on Tuesday, I've just cleaned the kitchen floor (first time since January), walked to the midwife appointment yesterday where she didn't even mention induction (hurrah!) but did ask that I do a scan next week which is fine, but sex ... what's that? If it's what I think it is, it's only happened twice in the last 4 years... And forget the knees, FG, the belly will be grazing the bed and getting sore! Anyway, I've read that oral's better because the prostaglandins are much better absorbed through the gut (so why do they rub gel on the cervix to induce I wonder??), BUT with the reflux I've got?? I don't think I can face going there either!

Have to go build a marble run. And find a book to write down feeding times.

Ooops - meant to say CATJ - pic would be fab. Hope they come up with some kind of fix in the near future. Thinking of you.

Picture here

Hello everyone,
What a gorgeous sweet girl, I just adore babies and whilst everyone used to look on me with pity, always saying, "I don`t envy you", I thought and knew I was the luckiest mum alive. Mind you eight years later I can add, also the poorest, oldest, and more knackered mum alive! Frumpgrumpy, in answer to your question about my anatomy, the third was last seen heading south with the other two!!!