D'ya ever wonder where all the other mums of multiples are?

[bubby64]

....or have we scared them all off with our inane chatter and multple moans!

hey Sokmonsta, glad the visit went well, and Jen will get some help. My Jack has hypermobility. His is pretty bad - is in nearly all his joints except his ankles. If you want to know any more, feel free to pm me, or ask on here! The main thing is to build muscle tone to support the hypermobile joints.

Two things I wish I had known -

1. Despite what some experts say, joints can get sore for some ppl with hypermobility, and ibuprofen is a godsend.
2. It can affect inside your body as well as joints, so bowels, etc can be a bit lax. Jack isn't good at waiting for the loo, and prone to incontinence if he gets a tummy upset.

Jack needs lots of exercise to keep his muscle tone up and support his joints. In winter he tends to go downhill and get floppy and struggle more.

Do you take her swimming yet? That would be great for her.

Jack struggles with core stability too because of it, he had a special cushion in his wheelchair to compensate. He has DCD too, so a lot of his problems aren't explained by hypermobility.

trips, jsut saw your other thread, sorry to hear you aren't getting anywhere with the travel insurance, and really hope you find something soon.

I do wonder if the suggestion of insurance for anything but the cancer would be good. like you say, he has no idea until a scan shows something up, so if he scans clear he would be fine to travel surely?

Seems so unfair :(

Morning girls x

Where have you all gone?

Morning girls xx

Morning shabs!

Morning rubes, going for a run today? I'm going to attempt day 2 today. I did get my bike out yesterday though. it nearly collapsed under my weight

I used a hair dye before Christmas Rubester....the shade was called black/purple. My natural colour is grey mid brown. I know it looked fantastic because DK didn't like it. Chellester (who is always totally honest) said how brilliant it was. BUT now the greys are coming back rapidly and I have a dye in but its mid brown Thinking of using a permenant marker on my roots LOL.

I have just walked quickly to the shop and back (through the thick fog) if that counts as exercise?

I wonder if with the grey it would jsut look a lot lighter anyway and you may as well go with the blonde! Maybe blonde with some brown low lights?

I used to do that black/purple thing, but my dh would hate it too! I haven't dyed mine for years now. I got bored of blonde (which was actualyl proba mistake anyway, looking back!), went back to brunette and dh would hate anything reddish so I don't bother any more.

I actually have 9 boxes of Schwarzkopf light bown hair dye. this one If either of you would like it, or split it between you, I'd love to post it off to you!

Good luck running, rubes.

Oh I wouldn't mind some of that chopster!! Chelle uses that colour as well so we could share it out.

I have had my hair cut short again (thank God) kind of choppy and layered around the crown then a side parting and full fringe. I have the side bits behind my ears and its rather short Much prefer it like this. Chelle dared me to get the black/purple and I can never resist a dare. It looked very dark with a dark purply tinge in the daylight. Nobody said it looked horrible (except DK) and I loved it!!! There was ever such a slight touch of the Kat (Eastenders) going on

I would love to have hair the colour that Adele used to have hers...really dark ginger!! I googled it once and it gave the dye number that she used. I asked my hairdresser and she said they would have to strip the colour from my hair and then dye it with that one.....I didn't have the courage to have it done.

Chelle has a 'streak' cap thingeymebob so may get her to do my brown and then put some more gingery streaks in!! She likes injuring torturing streaking my hair!!

Oh I used to do that streak cap thing on my brother! He used to have bleached blonde hair cuts, it seemed so painful, not sure I would ever dare subject myself to it!

PM your address, will see if rubes wants any as well and then send them out later x

popped over to fb, but there no pics of the new 'do'. sounds lovely, and like it really suits you though!

happy new year all
well done on the running, sounds very healthy! ruby
i managed to go for my first post-preggers run during xmas while in-laws were helping with babies...i had forgot the route so ended up doing 4 miles instead of 2!! luckily had remembered to wear my brace, as abs are still gaping and don't think i would have made it otherwise!
hope you all had a nice new year, baking sounds nice! wish i could do it too
i am posting today really for some reassurance ppl (as usual!)
I am feeling really at sea again with the babies, I know they are thriving in weight gain and their sleep has now extended at night (8-2am then again til 5/6am)...but most days I just start worrying again from the exhaustion (I am not sleeping that well as constantly listening out for them in the nigth even though that is pointless as i will wake up anyway)..
like yesterday I managed to get them up and through to the 2nd feed of the day after that i put them on the playmat, and as usual t2 starts crying almost straight away...t1 is luckily a lovely confident laid back girl most of the time and can chill out and look around for a longtime before feeling neglected....

Now here;s the first worry 1)...i know its normal to have a needier baby somtimes...but t2 is so upset ALL time when she is not feeding and being rocked or magically asleep...
I can't help but worry that she is anxious or in pain because of coming out breech...she is smaller too...and is only comfportaBLE lying with her head on the side...she won't lie flat on her back to play or sleep during the day at all, she just screams if i try to put her down on her back
I am taking her to a specialist baby crani-osteopath today and i hope itwill make some kind of difference, as some days I just can't cope with her crying and wish she was alseep all of the time...
I wish I knew if it would get better in time..I know she is only 8 weeks old...but I don't know anything about babymilestones etc...When I tried to read up on it in a cafe she started crying so I had to leave. I just feel so low from trying to problem solve my way through the day, but never knowing what or when things might change for the better...Getting up for their early morning feed is a struggle as I dread the day ahead (as I am writing this I know i am feeling low today because of lack of sleep as yesterday I felt great up until i hit a t2 obstacle)

Anyway, worry 2) sorry for mammoth email...but I'd really appreciate your thoughts and advice...I'm not just emailing to get things off my chest I really want to know feedback...
i have taken to putting them down for their daytime naps in front of the washer dryer in their snow suits (the room is very cool), as this is the only thing that relaxes t2 instantly and makes her go to sleep. In fact it works with both of them pretty much straight away...there is no other way that I can fathom to get t2 to have a nap
But now, sods law, I am worry I will be screwed later on - what happens 2 months down the line? What are babies like at 4 months ? Will I be able to get them to take a nap without a snowsuit and a load of washing on???
I know the first 3 months with twins is supposed to be all about surviving, but I am a real worrier and I am worried that this coping mechanism I have developed will come back to haunt me!!!
I don't know what babies are like at 4 months - can they play more, in a safe playpen, and tire themselves out? or at least be more independent?

Any advice so so gratefully appreciated! thank you all

Pics of me you mean Chopster? Ohhhhhh no I hate having my picture taken - really hate it. That was the worst bit of our Dan & Ems wedding....pictures of me are mainly when I am drunk or scowling at the camera LOL

Hi sassy, very impressed that you have managed to get out running already!

Babies change so much in the first year. To start with our dt2 was laid back, and easy going, so dh took responsibility for him, and I would deal with dt1. Shortly after, he became the grumpy one and dh was lumbered! He stayed grumpy until he got moving - then he didn't stop!

It really sounds like she doesn't like being on her back, doesn't like the quiet, and all that will get easier as she gets older. Have you got an iphone/ipod/ipad? There are great apps available now which you can download for white noise to settle a baby, and it sounds like that might work for her. We used to leave a radio on static. I've def done the washing machine thing, and I promise they weren't still going to sleep in front of it at 6 months!

Having a preference for one side is also normal, and irrc you should have already had a check for their hips if they were born breach? If you are worried, ask your HV to have a look, they should be able to tell, but as far as I know, it isn't actually painful. She just sounds a bit grumpy, and your dt1 sounds very laid back in comparison, which might be making her look worse than she really is! I don't think at that age either of my dts were happy to lie awake for very long without being cuddled, rocked etc.

Once they get a bit older, you can get things like door bouncers, bumbos, stand in activity centers, and I bet dt2 wil be a lot happier!

LOL, shabs!

Right, I'm off for my run if I'm not back in half an hour call an ambulance

good luck on your run chops hope its nice and crisp outside for you. My dh goes every morning at half 6 for a 10 min one so he can be back in time to bring me a toast while I'm feeding. He coudn't live without running every day!

thanks for the advice, I guess I should try and be patient and keep using the white noise thing (we use a machine for them at nighttime)..maybe try it in the daytime...she had her hips checked yesterday and they were fine...I guess its just a personality thing for the time being...

what age can they use bouncers and things? I have got a vibrating chair which helps her for about 5 mins sometimes,,,

Just got to get through the next few months I guess..xxxx

ps. chops how did you manage to cuddle and rock both babies at once? I can seldom find a position that works for both and doesn't end up making them both cry in the end!!!

My DH was working regular nights when my boys were about 2 months old. He would come in from work in the morning and I would either be 1. Still awake, feeding them and crying myself....2. Fast asleep, sat up in the living room still pushing the pram backwards and forwards with my feet with sleeping twins in it....3. A baby over each shoulder, sat up in the living room with all 3 of us asleep!!!

Just a thought...DS4 had a traumatic birth....stopped breathing for several minutes and eventually ventouse - he was a very, very 'cloudy' baby. He cried often and would never allow me to settle him - would actually fight his way out of blankets. He was so unhappy. Midwife had a theory that his birth had caused that. He also never slept through (was 20 days overdue though and I blame that!!)

I survived

It's strange the first one started easy and got harder, this one started hard and got easier. I didn't think I was going to be able to do it at first.

Sassy, I used to have mechanical rockers, or rock one with my foot while I cuddled the other. or lay one along my lap parallel with my legs and bounce while cuddlign the other ( I have very long legs)

Rubes, I used to call that tiger on a tree! I have a delightful picture of one of the dts sleeping on dh like that with milky dribble running down his arm. Agree, it is very good for windy babies.