Under 1s twin post-natal group? Should we have one? Who's in?!

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The antenatal group is nearly full, any graduates fancy joining forces to compare

skitoo I don't have the bugaboo but had to transfer mine from carrycots at 5 months as dtb had outgrown it and looked positively squashed in it! We have a baby jogger city select, but we don't go out much at the moment as it's too hot for me them to be outside and from 6pm it's mozzie happy hour so we keep well indoors.

We don't have a moving in date yet [panic emoticon] as there is people inside who are waiting for another house. As long as get the house!!

Poor you dream you must be shattered. Don't know what to say.. Dtb took a shile to accept a dummy but I think he did by about 4 months, dtg refuses, but I can get her to sleep feeding or rocking for hours so its not too bad. Personally I would do anything to sleep so would have dt1 in bed with me, but I know I couldn't sleep with dd1 in bed with us as a newborn so I understand! (my desperation must have changed me in the meantime)

Ooops forgot stats, I'm on the app and can't paste, can someone add me in???

Boy/girl twins born 08/02/2012, no3&4, dd1 (2001) and dd2 (2004)

Thanks!

Oh Dream sorry it's so rubbish. You might want to shoot me but have you thought about a bedtime bottle of formula? It's a bit heavier isn't it and might just help settle him to give you a bit of a break. Just an idea as it sounds like you've tried everything else. Mine are breastfed with the exception of that one bedtime feed, which we introduced to help them try and put on some weight a way back but I definitely think it helped knowing how much they'd taken and fills them up to help sleep longer.

Thanks for the carrycot advice. Think I might have a go at converting ours at the weekend and see how they fit in it.

We've had a cr*p day today which I feel is entirely my fault . So the last few weeks I've been trying to nail the daytime napping routine which we've made some good progress with. They both now have 3 naps a day at roughly predictable times, unknown durations but thats ok. First nap is only ever 40 minutes which I can tell isn't enough but don't seem to be able to extend it but hey ho. Problem now is they won't nap anywhere other than their cots, grrrr. So we go out in the car, they fall asleep fine but when we stop they wake immediately, haven't had a long enough nap and are a complete nightmare!! They won't go back to sleep in their car seats, carrycots, on blankets, play mats etc if at someone elses house. End result is 2 overtired babies which are then a complete mess for the rest of the day. Sorry for rant, especially when some of you are having tough night times, it's just I now feel a slave to the routine i created which means I can't go out with them - that's not right is it!!

Ooh stats

TwelveLeggedWalk: DCDA DD and DS 14.09.11 (PFBs)
DreamingofPeace: dcda non id boys, 4.4.12 DC 2&3 (DD Sept 2010)
Bigboobsatlast ID twin boys 30.04.12 DC #2&3 (DD Feb 2010)
ClaireMarathonFeeder: Boy/girl twins born 08/02/2012, no3&4, dd1 (2001) and dd2 (2004)
Skitoo : DCDA Non ID Boys, 01.04.12 DC 1&2

Sorry, didnt put them in right order did I - doh!

TwelveLeggedWalk: DCDA DD and DS 14.09.11 (PFBs)
ClaireMarathonFeeder: Boy/girl twins born 08/02/2012, no3&4, dd1 (2001) and dd2 (2004)
Skitoo : DCDA Non ID Boys, 01.04.12 DC 1&2
DreamingofPeace: dcda non id boys, 4.4.12 DC 2&3 (DD Sept 2010)
Bigboobsatlast ID twin boys 30.04.12 DC #2&3 (DD Feb 2010)

skitoo I know nothing about breastfeeding so was glad you suggested the formula bottle as was thinking along the same lines but didnt like to say as I really am totally unknowledgable (sp?) in this area. But I do know people who do it so maybe worth trying dream Im sure you'd try anything! DT1 has had a dummy since birth but since teething he hasn't been so bothered with it. I can totally understand why those amazing incredible awesome b/f twin mums are against it if it confuses them but do you have other reasons against them guys? Just wondering? Me I lurve dummies if only dt2 would have one grrr.

Still weaning slowly here too. Mixture of pureed and some finger foods but oh so very little amounts and its getting a bit boring! .

red good luck with the move!!!

Also skitoo I used the side by side from 3 months which is a pushchair (nowt as posh as the others on here though!) I did recline both seats as flat as they would go until 6 months though. Is that an option with the bugaboo to recline the seat for a younger baby?

Im not sure how to post stats as I am thick but could you kindly add me in.

minesapintofwine: non-id boys 02/02/2012. dcs 1&2/pfb on good days.

Dont want to miss out on the next thread in which dreaming will be getting more sleep I want us all to be here exchanging war stories when we have teenager twins. Though may have to change the thread name (and internet will have moved on a bit too much for me).

DT1 doesn't take a bottle... We tried every night for a week, a while ago, and he just can't work it out. He'll try for about 10-15 minutes, not get anything, or almost nothing (no obvious drop in milk level in bottle, and it was ebm so no taste issue) then be too cross to carry on!! Last night I managed to get him to sleep in his cot, it took a loooong time again and i feel like the walking dead today but its a start so i feel more positive I've started iykwim.

Routine wise that's exactly why I'm not doing a daytime one skitoo, I've been a slave to dds for 23 months now (though I walked her for naps til 9 months but at set times) so I'm not tying us to the house for theirs. My theory is if they nap in pushchairs they can be anywhere so that's what I'm going for. I'll always have a pushchair around even if we're in so it suits me! plus the cots and sleeping problems I have mean that routine would be a nightmare to try and start

Oh and twelve, I always used to eat breakfast and lunch with DD but not dinner. We do all eat together sometimes now but she'll never learn table manners as we're usually leaping up and down to babies, or I'm feeding one and eating one handed or something... We did a mix of puree and finger food with DD. She ate everything as a baby, chewed happily on broccoli etc. Real fussy madam now, I serve her a grand total of about 5 different meals

Fx for a moving date soon Claire . I'm thinking of you as we finally have sun here today!! Hopefully won't be as hot by half as for you though... I'd melt. And bf in the heat with babies sticking to you must be so hard.

We're thinking of a day out as its good weather and Dh off but the bickering has started already as we're so tired....

Hope things are going ok for you rednellie

Having a little problem here if anyone has any helpful tips. DT2 is trying to crawl of a fashion but theres been so much face planting and getting stuck in awkward positions the last few days. The problem is we have wood floors Im sure loads do and I put a massive blanket down but he still cries when face plants. We have a playpen but its not that big. I have a double airbed thinking of putting that down at its firmest. Anyway my question is when your older dcs started crawling did they get into as much trouble. So far he hasnt hurt himself badly (but it is a worry) but do I just let him carry on reassure him when hes bounced off his face for the umpteenth time? I dont want to hold him back Im sure he will just man up be ok eventually. Dont want to put my dt at risk but then how will he ever get about? Sorry this is a bit rushed on my way out but just wondering. Im off to a house with carpets today .

Oh as soon as I put him on changing mat on floor hes off so hes been crawling naked a lot too.

sorry minesa, I'm no help, we carpeted our ex-wooden floored lounge when we moved in when DD was 5 weeks old to make it more baby/family friendly and collect filth plus she didn't crawl, went straight to walking at 10.5 months. other than as you say, putting down blankets I don't think there's much you can do and he does have to learn- he'll get it soon enough (says the mother of the non-crawler!!)

We survived our day out today. DH and I both find we feel on edge quite a lot- anticiating baby kick offs etc but it was still nice to get out- went up to the Lake District, forest walk in sunshine, lunch, ice cream, playground. Nice. I am so tired I'm off to bed now. I'm just dreading nights. I don't want him in with me bigboobs, he wriggles round too much, I'm worried about another night like the one where I pulled the duvet up to his neck- thank god it wasn't over his head, and its just another habit to break later. I have friends whose 3 year olds are still in their eds and I don't want that to be me! But most of all, I can't relax and sleep well with him there so its not a great option. But the hours of settling in the night are soul destroying. Plus, 18 weeks now. Even twelves titchy tiny little 30 weekers got bedtime by now FFS boys!!!!!!

Do you have your three mostly by yourslef now then bigboobs? I can't quite imagine a whole day out without dh...Hooray for good friends who step into the breach and who you don't mind finding you in your pajamas!!

oh, and bb3, fighting you say?! . Twins don't fight. They get on fabulously all the time . And older siblings too, because they're just so damn happy we put ourselves through all this to give them siblings so soon.

Oh me me!

TwelveLeggedWalk: DCDA DD and DS 14.09.11 (PFBs)
ClaireMarathonFeeder: Boy/girl twins born 08/02/2012, no3&4, dd1 (2001) and dd2 (2004)
Skitoo : DCDA Non ID Boys, 01.04.12 DC 1&2
DreamingofPeace: dcda non id boys, 4.4.12 DC 2&3 (DD Sept 2010)
beyoglu: dcda non id girls 21.4.12
Bigboobsatlast ID twin boys 30.04.12 DC #2&3 (DD Feb 2010)

I'm wondering about naps too... these guys have almost consolidated their naps now, early morning, mid morning, early afternoon and late afternoon. As the day progresses it's more of a fight to get them off to sleep (although they need it) and I'm wondering if it would be worth sticking them upstairs in the dark to get them off. Means I'd be chained to the house like Dream says but hey it's almost autumn anyway and I have about 30 hours of stuff recorded on the Sky+ box! But then also their nighttime sleep is so good I don't want to confuse them. I dunno. The current situation - napping in carricots downstairs/on the buggy when we're out - will have to change soon as they're outgrowing the carricots. So do I switch to the buggy seats and have them nap in them, or just nap in them when we're out, and get travel cots for in here? I'm thinking buggy outside/travel cots inside or upstairs in cots but with window open as have to leave the buggy in the hall where it's light and noisy... but can't stop them napping while we're out, they just love to nap on the move! Just like their dad - whenever we go on the District line (very shoogly) he falls asleep in like 2 minutes.
Oh god, and I have to not let them nap in the kitchen once they're big enough to move on their own... complicated!

Morning all. Mine nap wherever and whenever - in the pushchair, in travel cot downstairs, on the floow or in their bouncy chairs!! I guess I need to start thinking about some sort of routine....

Dream - I defnitely do NOT have all three on my own most days!!! My parents usually come up one day a week to help when I have all three (they are not here unil lunch time though so I 'spose I do have them all morning usually not dressed when parents arrive and Peppa Pig gets played a lot, then I do have them all on my own one day a week and always make sure I have got something to do with them - either friends with LOs come over, I got to friends, or I meet friends out. A day in with all three on my own is a very very looooong day! The rest of the week DD is at nursery (have kept this going on the days I usually work, for my sanity, to keep her routine and place at nursery - and she loves it. This is hard financially but worth it for all our sakes I think. Then weekend DH is of course around. So usually only a day and a half on my own with all three - very full on day they are too!

My two have noth got colds and coughs at the mo and DD is not herself either :( I felt rubbish last night - any one else feel like they are juggling plates? I feel I can cope with things when everything is going well (no illness) but as soon as something comes along (even just a minor thing) I feel that it tips me over the edge and I only just manage to hold everything together to get everyone fed, bathed, dressed, in bed etc.... a knife edge!

Also feel that I really need to get the boys in to bed at a reasonable hour - 7pm like DD rather than 9pm at present - but just know I am going to be spending HOURS in their room convincing them to sleep (and failing). Any tips? When did you all start a 'bedtime'?

Minesa, no advice re wooden floors I am afraid, but I would say let him get on with it - he will soon learn and be stronger.

Hey all
Minesa, we have wooden floors and although I tried to keep Ds on playmats while he was learning there were a lot of faceplants! Bigger problem is that he used to get up in all fours in his cot and rock, bashing his forehead into the wooden bars! We eventually moved him into the travel cot as we needed to split them anyhow, but there were a lot of bruises. Now he's pulling up and trying to stand unaided optimistic boy! there are even more.

Re naps, ours have mostly had a short morning nap (usually at home) and a longer afternoon nap (often in buggy). When they were too big for their cocoons in the buggy we let them sleep in the seats reclined, my worry now is thar Ds can get pretty close to escaping so I have to keep popping into the utility room (only place buggy fits!) to check. He normally cries as soon as he wakes to give me some warning.

Re putting them down inside I'm quite ruthless, as soon as the eye rubbing and grizzling starts they go into cots, curtains closed, door shut. Works around 90 pre cent of the time. This morning they're napping in a playpen/cot downstairs where it's much lighter, so we'll see if that works!

Gorgeous sunshine here today, trying to figure out best way to enjoy it with a baby who doesn't really like the outdoors!(dd)

twelve thanks for the reassurance. He does bash his head on cot bars but doesnt seem to bother him .

Regarding these nap routine thingys. I just dont bother really theyre too much like hard work! Im lazy if were home I just put them down when theyre tired that usually works out to be roughly the same time anyway. Otherwise they kip on and off all day whenever wherever. They are good night time sleepers though. Im on maternity leave and the weather is nice for once. I ain't spending any time figuring out routines till I go back to work. They change em all the time anyway. Babies...always one step ahead! O my god I sound so bad! beyou I watch all my sky plus on granny days or in the evening when I have put the dts to bed- if dh lets me or doesn't talk over it.

How do I post my stats? Can someone add me in (from previous post).

mines I'm happy when mine actually nap, never mind a routine! No they're getting better but I still spend a lot of time sitting on my front step when they've fallen asleep in the pram and I don't want to wake them by getting them up the stairs. They used to be hideous, spent half my life with them in that bloody twin carrier but they're napping now, it's a bloody miracle.

Hoping this change of behaviour will be enough to make them manageable when I have to settle them to bed alone tomorrow and Sunday, aargh. DH and my mother are going to the Olympics and will be out of the house at baby bedtime grr. Still I used to do it fine when they were smaller and more grizzly... just have to make sure that they both get calm enough to eat... wish me luck!

Oh bloody hell, been up and down with all three crying and screaming- give me strength! and dd had just repeatedly told dh she does not like him :( :(

I can only post very quickly - as on holiday, leaning out of a window to get wifi. Please add my stats!

rednellie nonID boys 13.03.2012 + DD 03.02.10

Waves manically - packing was AWFUL. Tell you about it all once I land in the UK. xxxxxxx

TwelveLeggedWalk: DCDA DD and DS 14.09.11 (PFBs)
minesapintofwine: non-id boys 02/02/2012. dcs 1&2/pfb on good days. ClaireMarathonFeeder: Boy/girl twins born 08/02/2012, no3&4, dd1 (2001) and dd2 (2004)
rednellie nonID boys 13.03.2012 + DD 03.02.10
Skitoo : DCDA Non ID Boys, 01.04.12 DC 1&2
DreamingofPeace: dcda non id boys, 4.4.12 DC 2&3 (DD Sept 2010)
beyoglu: dcda non id girls 21.4.12 Bigboobsatlast ID twin boys 30.04.12 DC #2&3 (DD Feb 2010)

Nearly...

TwelveLeggedWalk: DCDA DD and DS 14.09.11 (PFBs)
minesapintofwine: non-id boys 02/02/2012. dcs 1&2/pfb on good days.
ClaireMarathonFeeder: Boy/girl twins born 08/02/2012, no3&4, dd1 (2001) and dd2 (2004)
rednellie nonID boys 13.03.2012 + DD 03.02.10
Skitoo : DCDA Non ID Boys, 01.04.12 DC 1&2
DreamingofPeace: dcda non id boys, 4.4.12 DC 2&3 (DD Sept 2010)
beyoglu: dcda non id girls 21.4.12 Bigboobsatlast ID twin boys 30.04.12 DC #2&3 (DD Feb 2010)

Killer night here too

My boys have gone all to pot.... now only feeding 4 hourly in the day, but back to 3 hourly at night! saw a friend yesterday and het 3 month old is sleeping 7 to 7 :(

how do people do it? I need to know!!

feeling your pain dream
good luck red x

BB3: dcda non id girls Sept 2011 (plus ds)
TwelveLeggedWalk: DCDA DD and DS 14.09.11 (PFBs)
Tiggersreturn twin boys (?!) (plus ds age 5)
Wherearemyearplugs twins (plus ds)
Ceeveebee b/g twins
minesapintofwine: non-id boys 02/02/2012. dcs 1&2/pfb on good days.
ClaireMarathonFeeder: Boy/girl twins born 08/02/2012, no3&4, dd1 (2001) and dd2 (2004)
rednellie nonID boys 13.03.2012 + DD 03.02.10
Lemele: id boys (plus ds)
Skitoo : DCDA Non ID Boys, 01.04.12 DC 1&2
DreamingofPeace: dcda non id boys, 4.4.12 DC 2&3 (DD Sept 2010)
beyoglu: dcda non id girls 21.4.12
Bigboobsatlast ID twin boys 30.04.12 DC #2&3 (DD Feb 2010)
Scollister mcda girls 3.5.12 plus DD age 4
Twin2makes4 mcda girls plus 2 ds,age 8 & 4

Don't really know where exactly, for wherearemy and ceeveebee, tiggersreturn etc for the stats but running out of time to collect them!! So if anyone can add anything or remember anyone I've forgotten please do (& sorry if I've got you wrong!)

Hi all
Sorry for lack of posting - have been run ragged with visitors - this is the 15th night in a row of various groups of people staying-the perils of living in London when Olympics are on!!!
Everything is fine here, nearly 9 months old now, cannot believe how time flies! Impressed that mines DTs already starting to crawl at 6 months - my two are swimming in circles and pushing backwards, no forward movement yet. We have wooden floors too but have a very big sheepskin rug that they play on, and have been outside on grass a lot too. Main hazard seems to be each other though, they keep clashing heads!

Weaning going well now too, DTD eating everything now, we did puréed plus finger food but now I don't purée anything and they eat off our plates, love steak, pasta, sardines on toast- nappies are interesting!

My stats are
Dcda b/g twins, 15.11.11, Pfbs

Wow ceeveebee how di you manage that, you're super woman!

We are currently "enjoying" some time in our home town with our families. The twins are totally out of any routine as a consequence but then with the move looming soon as well there's not much point in insisting.

Naps can be a bit of nightmare though, they need rocking and jiggling, I don't know how I'm going to do it when I'm on my own again, my first two just used to go to sleep on their own gggrrrr.

And dd1 was sleeping 8-8 just after three months, but I obviously havent been able to replicate that again!!

rednellie enjoy your holiday, hope the unpacking will be easier than the packing was, from what you say.

Weaning progressing well here too, eating a good amount of food at lunchtime, followed by quick feed. Dtb has discovered the joys of blowing raspberries with your mouth full , I am less impressed but have now learnt to change into not-going-out-clothes when its lunch time!

beyoglu good luck with nights on your own, I always aim to be superorganised but always fail spectacularly, and end up with two screaming babies, somehow we always survive though and I delete the memories or the guilt would kill me

And bigboobs I'm with you in that anything unexpected throws you iff big time, it's like walking on a tight rope isn't it? Sometimes all it takes is a tiny little thing and it's complete mayhem! I find it hard to relax at any time as I am always to be a few steps ahead (ine is not enough), so that in the event of something unexpected I've got everything covered!