Under 1s twin post-natal group? Should we have one? Who's in?!

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The antenatal group is nearly full, any graduates fancy joining forces to compare

very very quick from me as on my way out..... in my very unqualified opinion Dream DT2 sounds reflux-y to me (my DD had it bad, boys have it mild). I would use Gaviscon at every feed (it takes a while to build up in the system and take affect, thats what the GP told me) and if that does not work then back to GP for stronger meds. Regular Gavison for about 10 months worked wonders for my DD but I know some babes need something stronger.

Sorry to hear about your DT2 Red, hope things improve soon.

Ok, got to go - out for the day on my own with all three !!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my goodness bigboobs where are you off to? I can only imagine braving certain types of day out by myself with all three now, and it would have to involve a playgroup or meeting a friend somewhere at least to cope with feeding etc.

I was hoping it wasn't reflux but it is most likely :( . Gaviscon is really hard to give to an ebf baby- two sachets in 15ml of water. That's 3 full syringes down a miserable baby. We find it mission impossible mostly... Hmm. I don't want him to suffer though, maybe I'd best start trying more regularly.

How's your day going red? Any miracle overnight improvement?

I wonder how BB3 is getting on, and tiggers with her new Nanny and being back at work.

I think I dreamt about your dts ceevee, def twins with one rolling everywhere in it. Sign of a true mn addiction??

Quick wave.
Dreaming - reflux here turned out to be related to, and possibly was totally explainable by, lactose intolerance, it's v.v.common I think. We hit the reflux with hard drugs, then when I stopped breastfeeding moved onto lactose free milk. Combination of the above, solids, and the fact that ds spends every spare second pulling himself up to vertical seems to have eased things off.
You will get there, you will get there... promise promise promise, and they'll be throwing lactose-free houmous at you before you know it

Where - you poor thing? Are you ok?

Been in hospital ourselves for a few days with dd's bronchiolitis. She is very well in herself, unfortauntely her numbers say different, so one very bored baby and one very bored mum cooped up in the sunshine . Am reminding myself from NICU days that hospital + boring = good really .

Nothing is going right here.

Apart from the fact that they're all gorgeous and lovely and DTs have started rolling over, apart from all that I would be considering packing my bags and leaving them all to it.

This sleep thing has got me totally stumped. I thought they were supposed to get better sleep after 4 months, not worse? We're doing everything right and they just keep fucking waking up. Now I know why people say having twins is harder. I totally get it now. I am a walking zombie. I feel awful for everyone who has babies with reflux, but I almost wish ours did and then I could at least do something about it. This random return to newborn waking habits has thrown me for a loop.

On the plus side it's been a week since we've had a serious biting/hitting/maiming incident....

Waves at everyone!

Apologies fif lack of personal posts, but on my phone right now. Looks like we are all going through rough patches at the moment!

Very sorry for those of you who have had children/babies/partners in hospital, I feel stretched enough as it is, sonething like thst would definitely tip me over the edge. So lots of respect for coping with that.

Like many others, we sre slso doing sll the right things (bedtime routine-wise) but going to bed is still a very long affair.. Last week I was on my own for a few nights (without my helpfil dd1&2 as well as dg) znd it was awful! Lots and lots of crying and babies not settling fir hours! Well I say babies but it was mostly dtg, but then her crying wiuld wake her brother up and then I'd end with two upset babies and ond very distressed mother! I joined in the crying a few times too

It had been a bit better the ladt two nights (with dh coming home a bit earlier than usual), fingers crossed it will continue. We've also had cooler weather and I brlueve that is the only reason why I have survived all the crying. We are also facing a move in less than two months, dh has a new job in a town a few hrs from here, we want to be there for start if school, but havent got a house yet, and havent even told the girls. Not looking forwRd to having that conversation tbh. And more unsettledness for the babies

So I havent been at my best recently, but yesterday I had one of those heart melting moments that make you forget everything , when unable to settle either I put them on my bed in the darkness and was contrmplating suicide, when dtg started blowing raspberries, her brother started giggling and then she joined in and they were both in hysterics!

If I can enjoy these moments then its not too bad yet! (seriuosly thought I was getting depression the other day, just felt so crap)

And I still can't pluck up the courage to start weaning yet.. 24 weeks today.

Sorry for me me post, but it could have been a lit worse had I written a couple of days ago when I was feeling really down!

Not sure if any of can make sense of anything I have just written between the typos and the ramblings... Apologies

Yyy to bedtime routine, every night, to no effect. Bloody, bloody DT1 refused to sleep at all unless held last night. Poor DT2 up coughing, gulping and refluxing for two hours too. I'm barely functioning today...

So I extend my greatest sympathies Claire and rednellie, twins are such hard work...

Hello ladies :)

Just in case anyone missed on the pregnancy thread i am previously goingmadtrying and have name changed due to definitely not trying again!!!

Im so pleased to have finally found this thread, and it makes things a little easier hearing that others are finding things difficult :( sorry but I've been finding things harder and thought i was doing things wrong!!

I'll try my best to get on top what's going on with everyone but lovely to see some virtual friends bigboobs dreaming rednellie and Claire

Just a quickie - 4 month sleep regression. Looked it up - we have a classic case. And last I went in to settle DT2 and he was mid roll, with all his clothes on and his giant nappy which is damn impressive. I'm going to attempt to relax now and just feed them and get used to it and hope it passes soon...

claire it's rubbish isn't it? I thought I was going mental the other night and both DH and I have been a tad rather a lot melodramatic - me: "It's all falling apart" whilst wailing, DH: "I hate my life" whilst stomping around our darkened bedroom. Hope that makes you feel better

Hey going/twin2 - I was wondering when you'd find us. Glad to have you here - how's it going? Big hugs to you, the early days are a hard slog....And twelve so sorry to hear about DD, hope she's better soon.

Quickie from,me too

Encouraging red, so its just 'this too shall pass' and all? I'll pray DT2 doesn't go through it (only up 3am and 6:30 last night) but DT1 quite frankly has nothing to regress from... I am super impressed with his rolling though :) my two don't have enough tummy time to develop I fear

A house move you say Claire? I suppose at least its not overseas like red but the mere thought is stressful. And I assume the dds will have to change school? Good luck finding another house. I would probably have a meltdown alone for a few nights with my two btw. And when i say probably, I mean definitely :)

I hope you're home with dtd twelve, how horrible to be in hospital but at least she was bored not suffering. The mind boggles with how you cope though... Who has dts and the Big Dog? Do you have family nearby or does Dh have to be off work?

Hi twin2 lovely to see you here.much harder than I was expecting too...

Hi everyine here hope youre all making the most of the lovely hot weather! dream so sorry things not working out for you yet but they will soo Im sure of it-echo bigboobs that gaviscon to go with every feed and also I found gripe water very helpful with the colicky crying part. Ive started to wean my dts off gaviscon as they are 25 weeks now they have a docs appt tomorrow but so far they seem ok. Theyve had awful runny nappies though am not sure of the cause-teething? (they are teething like mad), lack of gaviscon?, hot weather? not sure but theyre fine otherwise so just going to mention it at appoinment.

claire tbh I found the first days of weaning hard and longed for the good old easy milk feeds but now both dts are having porridge and am aiming to start a lunch next week it takes longer to feed them but now Im finding it ok. I just found it easier to leave the house after the first feeds before! Yes I did wean a little early in the end but am not regretful of it. You do it when you are ready. With the move coming up its a lot to deal with. Have you told the girls yet? How did they take it if you did?

To everyone who does bedtime routines Im seeing that the crying is part of it for all of you. For this reason I dont particularly like doing it alone and dh hates it feels that way too but am thinking it wont be forever right? Im lucky I suppose in that they do settle after that last feed but getting there is a bit of a slog. Plus (whinge alert) have a bad back at moment so picking them up and all things baby related is a bit of a pain they want to picked up all the time too!

The dts have gone into theyre own cots (they were still in moses baskets ) in theyre own room this week its very strange. Have waited many years for a baby to be in that room but they are growing up very fast!

Welcome welcome twin2 how old are your dts? congratulations! Early days are tough but theres good support here.

Oh one last thing red dt2 (always dt2 little tinker!) went through a little sleep regression at 4 months but it went away again on its own (then came back for a few days-see previously) we didnt change anything kept to same routine etc just a gentle reminder for him ha ha!

Hi everyone else ceevee bb3 beyou and twelve and all the others I forgot!

WEll we're all home, and there's even some sun left . Pretty sure it'll have gone by the weekend here, but never mind! Took nearly 5 days to get discharged in the end, not easy with one dt at home and one in hospital, thanks to wonderful wonderful nanny and MIL we survived, but I have been haemoraging money on childcare and not working (self employed), which is a bit of a stress, but at least I can stop worrying about dd's health.

twin2, do you have another set of twins? Or were you trying for a third and got a third and fourth? Either way congrats and, er, good luck! Although if you've done it twice before it'll be a walk in the park, honest!

claire no rush on the weaning if you don't think they're ready. We did bang on 26 weeks (they were definitely not ready, but that's what the docs told us for premmies) but did it really really slowly to build up to 3 meals a day, and only a couple of days ago I was still worrying about 'stretching' them with more texture/finger food etc. Of course after a week of horrible sore throats and sickness they're now back to Stage 1 fruit mush, arrgh! But seriously, if they're taking their milk just don't stress it, it definitely impacts on your days a lot in the early stages.

Hello twelve and minesa this is dc 3&4!!! Yes was going for 3 and ended up with 4

I have 2 ds who are 8 and 4 and then my gorgeous id girls will be 4 weeks tomorrow :) :) :) :)

Somethings are a walk in the park, but its so difficult adjusting to night time feed that take so long and juggling giving attention to 2 babies!!

Last night was particularly bad dt1 decided she only needed 2 hours sleep!! And nothing was settling her, don't know whether its the heat, or worrying she may be allergic to milk, my last son was diagnosed very late when he was nearly 3??? But had it from birth, symptoms lots of poos, and very windy, I've also noticed a dry red rash behind her knee which is something my son gets if he has too much milk!!!

Thank you for the welcomes i have a feeling its going to be a long road ;)

Hi dreaming we're all good just a bit exhausted with it all. Waves to all and promises to read at some point.

Hi all and welcome to twins2
Ceeveebee here with new Olympic name change

Well my DH has excelled himself in making my life difficult. He decided it would be nice to have an Olympic party and then all go watch the cycling which comes through our hometown tomorrow. So we have 20 people staying at our 2 bedroom 1 shower house tonight and tomorrow!!! There are sleeping bags everywhere. Babies in our room tonight so no doubt will have about 4 hours sleep and then need to get up and make picnic. He is a really social guy but leaves all the work to me.

Rant over, at least I can hand DTs to all the willing helpers hee hee

Need to make the most of my last few weeks. Back at work in just over 8 weeks and not looking forward to it, I have never left DTs for more than 4 hours. Am worried abour seperation anxiety - mine not theirs! For those who've been through this before, how is it, do you find it hard or is work a break?!?

Red any sight of the light at the end of the 4 month sleep regression tunnel? How is packing going? Not long until you get some family help

Can't see other posts on my phone but hope you are all well and have a great weekend.

ceegee ha ha your dh sounds a bit like me . My poor dh....

Your post got me wondering how long Ive got left of maternity weeks and its 15 omg where has the time gone and thats including 4 weeks hols I booked at the end so officially it ends in 11 weeks and technically they could ask me to change my hols. Arrrggghhh! Tbh though 2 months is still ages and also tbh (shhh) Im quite looking forward to the adult conversation and not dressing like every days a holiday la la la.

Though will be watching the answers to this closely. What is it really like going back?

Oh my goodness ceegee (love the name change!) You must be the Hostess with the Mostess. I can't imagine coping with 20 people in our house! Hope its fun amongst the effort of feeding them etc.

minesa, nice to hear your news. I know what you mean about strange and room filling. DD went into her own room at 9 weeks but it suddenly hit home we really really did have another person come to live with us. Boys been in a cot bed in their room since 5 weeks, in desperation for a chance of better sleeping...

tiggers, the thought of going to work then coming home and working all evening with 3 small children exhausts me. Well done you.

Speaking of which, I've had a really rubbish night and day. DT1 so bad last night Dh took him out in the buggy at 3am. that bad kind of night, with both. Today DD has fallen over, grazed her knees, really scraped and grazed her nose but worst of all, broken her front tooth :( :( :( . Took her to the dentist, he just said soft diet for a few days, calpol, they might be more sensitive to hot/ cold for a bit but nothing more serious done and nothing to do but wait for the adult tooth- which bearing in mind she's still 1 will be a while. She'll be starting school etc with her broken tooth. It seems so important now, hopefully I'll have regained some perspective by the morning :( . Depends whether I get any sleep of course, DT2 was terrible last night too, why's he joining in?!. I am so tired I'm tearful at the drop if

^^ of a hat...

minesa and ceegee, I was very anxious going back after i had DD, but i was already 14 weeks pg with the dts so it didn't feel that 'real' as the end was already in sight. I struggled to do my job part time though, I went back 2 days a week and that is hard to be efficient and get things done in my area as i do all my own booking of appointments, admin etc which meant if I couldn't get hold of people and left a message and times were inconvenient etc I had big gaps in my days by the time my next working day came round... And my parents, who each live about 50 miles away, agreed to do childcare as it was only 3.5 months. So I didn't have to take her anywhere and knew she was always with someone who loved her and who she is close to, so that made it more bearable. I still rang home a few times a day though to hear news, I really missed her it was restful though

Goodness knows what will happen IF I go back this time...

HAve just stayed up to watch Olympic opening ceremony.

Am idiot .

Me too twelve. And am now already Up for the day! Oh well, still got a bit of a buzz from what I saw last night (unless I am still tipsy from the 2 glasses of wine I had!). Oh dear, this is going to be a loooong day!

I really wanted to watch it but the extra couple of hours sleep was needed feeling much better for it today and ready to face the day ahead :)

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend

Hello all,

Hope everyone had good weekends.

I didn't see the Olympics opening ceremony, but have most of it recorded. More stinking nights, mostly courtesy of DT1. He ends up co-sleeping with me from about 1am most nights, but I'm not keen on it becoming a baad habit to break later so I must fight the good fight and keep putting him back down. Its just all the to-ing and fro-ing from his room means I'm wide awake by the end, and even when I get him down its still usually 2 hours or less til he's up again

Still, had a better day today, visiting a friend and his 2 children who are 1 and 3, so DD was entertained and there was an extra pair of hands for baby-jigging. S still refusing to be put down- in fact he gets hysterical now, so tears are streaming down his face, and you know when you've been crying really hard and it takes your breathing ages to settle down? He gets like that. Ah well, sure he will eventually sit in a bouncy chair or lie on a playmat better, and he is still coughing.

Hope your DD bright and perky and well twelve

Hoping more sleep and rest has been had chez red ,

too tired for more, off to bed while all is (briefly) quiet here.

Work is considerably more relaxing than being at home but it's all relative. I'm sorry to hear of the trouble some of you are having. It sounds awful. My two are nearly a year now. I can't quite believe it. They are very happily crawling in different styles and favourite toys are the video and the digibox - neither of which are good for my piece of mind or olympic viewing.

It is definitely better at this stage.

tiggers thank you i was hoping that was true :)

I spoke with the gp today as the girls are displaying some signs the same as my ds who was allergic to milk i had a really tough time with him and he wasn't diagnosed till he was nearly 3!! They are going to try the girls on soya milk for a month so will see how they go