Under 1s twin post-natal group? Should we have one? Who's in?!

[PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling]

The antenatal group is nearly full, any graduates fancy joining forces to compare

Morning all. You all sound like you are doing so amazingly well and getting out and about with twins and other DCs. I have yet to go out on my own with all three - and in fact I have only had the odd hour at home on my own with all 3

I think I would be ok out and about (as long as not feed time!) - but the getting ready to go out..... not so sure! DD really has been very good but she is demanding moe attention at the times I can not give it (changng, feeding, etc) - and her new favourite phrase is 'carry ne mummy'!! and yet before the boys she would insist on walking everywhere! Like you red, it is hard to know what behaviour is as a result of the boys coming along and what is just usual for a 2 yo anyway.

One thing that has improved is her sleep though - before twins, she woke every night at least once - but now she sleeps through nearly every night?!! So Dream at least that part has got a little easier for us!

Lemele, not surprised you which DH as around more in the evenings - thats the hardest part of the day for me - I hope he gets some better shift timings soon.

DT1 is still doing well (although still not bloody pooing!). I on the other hand was a wreck all day yesterday. After being all positive and jollying others along while DT1 was in hospital, I seemed to crash yesterday and cold not stop crying and imagining all sorts of horrible things. I hope I can get back to some sense of normaliy soon. I couldn't even watch the Eurovision Song contest as not in the mood - and this comes from the girl who usually hosts Eurovision parties with scoring sheets (and lots of wine of course) and runs sweepstakes on the results! Humperdink just couldn't bring me out of my melencholy!

Hope the sun is shining where you are.

Oh my goodness!!!! Using my husbands laptop to post and just realised he has obviously sneekily signed up as it posted with a different user name!!! It is me, Boobs - I shall be having words with the DH - what has he been posting about?!!

Hilarious :)

I was a bit nosy bigboobs and had a look for old Graham, looks like he was asking for pushchair advice, so you're safe! Frigging hilarious though.

I have a TMI question - well, it's not that gross, just plain weird. My underarm hair has not grown AT ALL since I gave birth. I'm not joking. Is it all the superhuman bf? OR what?

redsuperficially I'm envious but it sounds like something to get checked out with the doc?

red thanks for your detective work! I have read before that hair growth can be affected during and after preg (ie it can stop). but if you are worried then get it checked out. I am also slightly envious as my body hair is out of control! (must have. a bath!) ;-)

The evil colic is continuing to keep me miserable and dh stressed and lots of general tension here :( . When we are no longer consumed by screaming babies and can organize, sort laundry, do anything in peace in the evening it will feel so good! All 3 children have stinking colds too. DD miserable with it tonight. Dh exhausted and has an exam tomorrow. In London. Which is costing us £500 for him to sit and due to the absolute lack of the boys sleeping at night and the colic consumed evenings it looks highly unlikely that he can pass it as he hasn't revised. So we're gloomy here tonight. We have resorted to dh pushing the boys around in their pushchair at 11pm the last two nights as we couldn't take the screaming any more but they wake as soon as the buggy stops moving. Gah.

bigboobs, hilarious about your dh on mn :) . Glad DT 1 doing ok, and i think your emotional day is totally understandable. I've only had the three children by myself for one evening, and two mornings and they're 7.5 weeks old!! I took them all to the playground yesterday after an even more horrendous night for dh to have some sleep (he did a stint with two ebm bottles for me). Managed to get them up, fed, dressed and out for 7:50am and funnily enough we were the only people at the park . It was hard though, ended up bf DT1 while pushing DD on the swing and trying to keep the buggy rocking to keep DT2 asleep.

rednellie, totally jealous of the lack of underarm hair, I daydream about things like that!! I feel like I'm bf for England, why've I not got that?!

dreaming you've made it thru some of the most intense weeks and you're together and doing it, colds, mastitis, colic, feeding frenzy and sleep deprivation be damned. It's rubbish about the exam prep and i wish your husband all the best for tomorrow. Keep on keeping on.

I'm sitting down with a glass of red, fully expect to be back upstairs in an hour, the heat has flaked the duo out...

dreaming how did the exam go?

everyone how are you getting on?

Bigboobs I'm not sure if monitors would freak you out or reassure you but there's one called respisense which I saw recommended. it attaches to the nappy so works for twins sharing a mattress or sleeping in a buggy. I decided not to get it in the end as felt the false alarms would freak me out too much.

Thanks Tiggers, I had thought about a monitor but worry it will just extend my unease and lead to lots of false alarms. Health Visitor coming to check both boys tomorrow so might mention it to her and see what she thinks.

Pigcon hope you got to finish your glass of vino! I don't know about any one else but my 4 week old boys are either suffering from the heat or having a growth spurt (does this happen at this age?) but after me saying they feed every hour they have conmpletely gone the other way - now every 2!! sometimes just 'snacking' but more often drinking loads!! any one found this? And the last two nights have been awful with constant feeding and two unsettled babies. I am pooped!

Can I also ask a question about dummies? Never used them with DD but have tried them with the boys but not really sure how I am meant to introduce them / use them? at the moment I am thinking they are more hassle than they are worth as they keep falling out / spitting them out so I constantly getting up to put them back in their mouths - and also it seems that it gets their hopes up about having some food!! any one esle use them / got any experience?

Dream, I have been thinking of you as it sounds as though you have it really hard at the moment. How did DH get on? I am sorry but I have no words of wisdom. what age are babies meant to 'grow out of' colic? You ARE doing brilliantly, try and remember that when you are finding things really hard - I know tiredness makes any positiveness very hard to see.

Finally, I managed to click 'hide' ont his thread so I can't see it when I am logged in! any one know how to 'unhide'?

bigboobs first of all I'm happy to hear youare back home and dt1 much better!
Re dummies: we use it with dtb as dtg just spits it out, tbh even dtb has only been accepting it recently, since about week 11-12, I tend to give it to him if he's crying and I cant trnd to him for whatever reason (usually becsuse I am feeding his sister). I am never been a huge fan,

Sorry bigboobs, havent finished but there has just been a strong earthquake again... I am all shaking, be back later..

:-( hope you are ok Claire

Hello all

Bigboobs, I'm so glad he's doing better it must have been horrendous for you all - glad he's home. Hope he continues to pick up on the antibiotics and at home with you all.

Red - no arm hair? I'm but might be worth asking your hv!

Dream - sending virtual hugs chocolate coffee and anything else that will help you get through this tough time. Good luck to dh, you never know...

Hello to everyone else just popping in quickly from the pool side. Only 2 more days left here and it's been really nice. The kids have all had their moments but by and large have coped really well with the heat and family influx. I'll post properly when I'm home Friday but hope the little ones are growing well!

Oh Claire - hope you're ok xxxx

We're ok, just scared! Got the girls from school and we're now at friends house, just didnt feel like being on my own! Thanks for asking

Claire just looked at the news, really frightening, hope that's the last of it.

Glad you're all safe xx

Blimey Claire, sounds terrifying. I'm glad you're not on your own with them.

pigcon dh reports very unsure on the exam, could have scraped through, could have failed. We'll just have to wait and see. Did the wine get finished?!

I want wine! But I can't drink the damn stuff now as it seems to immediately give me rhinitis or whatever it's called, ever since I got pregnant. So I'm drinking stout. I've decided that's fine as it's got iron in it. Right, right?

claire - that sounds a bit dramatic. Hope you're all ok. Bloody nature! Keep us posted when you can.

bigboobs, glad everything's settling down. I think I'd be a bit terrified by those monitors - I don't use a normal one at all as I tend to leap up at the slightest snuffle and therefore decided to abandon all monitoring...not sure that's sensible either! I've never used a dummy so no advice, but my mate in france thinks I'm mad not too, they all use them over there. She's always accusing me of being a classic lentil weaving mum, the cheek. Having said that, she's a complete hippy about other things like vaccinations, but that's another story...

BB3 - ooh to be on holiday. Although now, my idea of a holiday is the one I'll have in about 5 years time where we dump the kiddilinks with the aging grandparents and bog off on our own for a weekend. I'm clinging on to that image. (and hoping my parents can cope with 3 small children)

Thanks everyone for the concern about the arm pit situation. Frankly, I wasn't worried about it till I told you lot, but maybe I should get it checked out? We haven't got health visitors here, and the public health nurses are nice but their drop ins are at very inconvenient times if you also have a toddler. So i guess I'll wait till we see the GP again for the next set of vaccinations...there's a few stray wispy bits, but still nothing really. Odd odd odd. Having said that, I've gone through my whole life not being a smelly person and I now have terrible (imo) BO, blooming babies do weird things to ones bodies.

Which brings me on to my good news of the day - saw the physio today and my diastasis has reduced by a finger/centimeter all along my stomach so at least I know the exercises are working, yey!

Oh and dream, I've been thinking of you loads, hope things are getting better. Not long now till the 3 month stage...

And yeah, bigboobs, growth spurts are meant to be around 6 weeks, 3months and there's another one I can't remember where it is. We're defo having the 3 month one here, having settled down to basically only waking once in the night, the boys are back waking almost every two hours, especially DT1 who is the smaller one. Boo!

Well a different hv to normal came and weighed the boys yesterday and piled the pressure on about formula for at least one feed, saying nothing to do with the babies but I need to get some sleep. So now I know I look as tired as i feel!! I also had a melodramatic meltdown at 5am this morning,going and waking dh, telling him I couldn't cope if I didn't get any more sleep before DD woke up... . I'd been up since 2 at that point, having got the boys down for 11pm and already been up feeding and settling again before 2... No idea why they're not improving at night, they're racing up the centiles (from born on the 2nd and 9th up to just below 25th and just below 50th respectively so can't be hunger...).
Still battling on ebf. Am I being stupid not to try a formula feed or will they improve bf?!

Sorry to hear about the sleep regression at your house rednellie . Are you back doing your dancing now? Good job on the tummy muscles (I must do more exercises, and pelvic floor ones...)

I've put a new picture of my little brood on. :)

I did get to finish my wine thank you, woke up after a night of mouth breathing (in the heat) and felt massively and unreasonably hung over at baby o'clock...

bigboobs Can understand why you're suffering agonies. We don't use a monitor but I slept in with the boys (in separate room from DH) until the 5 month stage and was then just across the corridor (doors open). Can now tell the breathing patterns of each in the pitch dark (which hasn't stopped me putting my hand on them to check on occasion). Hope the health visitor went well today. I defer to Red on the growth spurts. Neither of mine took to the dummy (lots of pushing out and me holding them in with my finger thinking "is this right"?) we use muslins to soothe them and I still put them down for a sleep with a muslin by their face/shoulder so they can suck on it; usefully they pick up a muslin and suck on it when they are tired which is a good backstop if I'm worried that I'm putting them down when they may not be sleepy.

Dream hope they don't keep you waiting too long. This is prob something you've checked out already but sometimes you can claim the exam/training cost back from tax (I know you don't have any time now but potentially worth a phone call sometime in the next year). Hope the break in the weather makes things a little easier for you.

BB3 good luck with the return journey.

Claire are you able to go back to your house?

red "Guinness is good for you" didn't they prescribe stout to the pregnant in the 60s :) Sorry for worrying you on the armpit hair (envy). Congratulations on the tummy and for fitting in the phys.