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Oops! Just started an accidental neighbour dispute

494 replies

tinytoessize4 · 29/08/2008 23:03

Any legal eagles reading? Advice please...

We have a shared passageway only with next door, enclosed at either end, and locked at our end (we did not put the lock on and have evidence to prove this). We thought we owned it outright, but this is not the case as it is a restrictive covenant in the deeds. Anyway, we propsed to move our kitchen downstairs into the passageway area, knockig down our internal wall to create an open room. Yes, we know the planning permission necessary and checked this out. Out of courtesy we informed our neighbour of our pending planning permission application. We have a small son and one bedroom. We only have 2k to do the alterations. I'll continue...we informed her of this, and that she had never utilised the right of access since we had been there and never since the previous owner of our house had been there either. She got a wee bit shirty. Saying that we admitted blocking our passage by placing a lock on the door (!) to which she didn't have a key (why? because she never bothered to get one when whoever put the lock on did it.) and that this was actionable nuisance. grr. she said she wanted monetary compensation for this. We said we didn't have any money. But we do have a shared right of access across the back of her property. We offered to exchange this. She hasn't yet responded. We said it would be best if we met face to face (terrible but we haven't met her and we've been here 2yrs! We were talking by letter). She's a litigation lawyer and though I am a law student, still have a year left. She quoted James v Stevenson [1893] AC 291 at me but I couldn't find it on Westlaw. Where do we stand with regard to the fact the right of access hasn't been exercised by her for about 10yrs? is there any precedent of lapsed right of access? Sorry its long ladies & gents....

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savoycabbage · 06/09/2008 10:59

Don't ask her. Just write her a letter telling her you are moving your arse. I bet she hasn't used the garden in 20 years as she is always at the gym. She hasn't got a skinny leg to stand on.

findtheriver · 06/09/2008 11:03

Thanks savoy. Was wondering about knocking on the door and inviting round for tea and cake but guess that might fatten her up, the skinny bitch!

NotDoingTheHousework · 06/09/2008 12:20

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AmazingBouncingFerret · 16/05/2011 09:23

Is the OP still about? Would love to know if she got anywhere with her plans! Grin

trixymalixy · 16/05/2011 17:29

I would love to know too!!

TheNorthWitch · 20/06/2011 18:00

Best laugh I've had today - sorry to see the end of this thread - priceless. Talk about projecting! I wonder if OP is now sitting in her brand spanking new kitchen or if she is now knee deep in legal fees and finally seeing the light. Doubt it somehow.

Sausagedog27 · 18/12/2011 17:22

Just read this as well....I'd love to know what happened! I bet she didn't get listed building permission and if she did, wonder if the neighbour ever agreed? Unlikely!!!

NoisyOyster · 17/02/2015 20:23

Nooooo what happened in the end????! Just finished reading this blooming thing!

Nb. Only started today. Didn't take me 7 years Grin

WhamBamSpam · 18/02/2015 10:10

Noooo I neglected my children all morning for this. Please op comeback

Fwiw I am a planner and a lawyer. You haven't a leg to stand on!

VeryStressedMum · 18/02/2015 22:05

Arrrggghhhh!!! Didnt realise this was originally from 2008..really really need to know what happened in the end Grin

DandyHighwayman · 18/02/2015 23:27

Hahaha I remember this thread.

Meandyou150 · 28/03/2015 09:53

Had the OP Got anywhere with her plans you can be sure she would have told us in all her glory! Lol I think we can assume she learned her lesson

professornangnang · 28/03/2015 12:48

Ha ha! Just been reading this. What a total psycho!

LaPomme · 28/03/2015 13:00

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trixymalixy · 28/03/2015 13:13

This was one of my favourite threads. I'd love to hear from the OP again.

SuedeEffectPochette · 28/03/2015 22:36

You need to work out who owns the land (it can't be both of you). Then ask the Land Registry for your deeds and her deeds and read them. If you own the land, but there is a right of way for her, you can't build over it without her consent. If you do build you risk an injunction/damages. It sounds like she has an express right to use the passageway and if that is the case she can stop you building on it.

Littlefish · 28/03/2015 22:39

Suede - this is a very, very old thread.

SetTheWorldOnFire · 29/03/2015 00:21

I started reading this thinking there were a few posters I'd not seen for a while, then I actually looked at the dates!

I really want to know how it all ended!

HarrietSchulenberg · 29/03/2015 02:15

Let's make up a totally fictional ending.
Tinytoes: Well, we've finally started the work! Neighbour backed down and not only agreed to the plans but thanked us profusely for ridding her of the encumberance of the disused passageway. Apparently she's quite delighted at the prospect of becoming a semi as she reckons it'll help insulate her draughty old house.
Builders arrived at 8am and have already made good progress with knocking out our external wall. I must admit that I thought they'd be building the end walls to fully enclose the passageway first. It's getting a bit chilly in here.

I am now working in the legal field, just like I said I would. I'm never short of work at Claims4U, in fact I really love calling people up and asking if they've been injured in the last 6 months.

Anyway, must dash, kettle's boiled and the builders want their tea...

Jackiekenneddy · 15/07/2017 20:21

I really want to know the outcome of this ridiculousness 😂
I hope OP is still around 🙏🏻

Weebitty · 15/07/2017 20:29

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Mumsnut · 28/07/2017 11:25

Because we are all sitting maniacally refreshing the 'neighbours have cut a doorway into my garden' thread and this is the only comparable Cheeky Fucker situation (except possibly for the Mexican Holiday Home abusers).

Mumsnut · 28/07/2017 11:28

(At a guess)

TheMaddHugger · 28/07/2017 11:32

lol Mumsnut
yes, I'm stalking that post too

garethe · 28/07/2017 11:36

from experience very recently about building next to your neighbours house - 2K wont even cover they cost of the independent party wall surveyor that they can appoint and you have to pay for. My advice, drop it, you are being totally unrealistic.

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