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We earn nearly 5K a month but we’re always skint

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MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 11:04

Me and my partner have been together 6 years and we have 6 kids between us. We both work and on paper we should be doing ok but honestly we seem to have no money left most months and I dont understand where its all going.

I earn about £1450 a month after tax and he usually brings home around £3200 but it depends on overtime. We get child benefit as well and I get a bit of maintenance for my older two but its not a massive amount. So I know we arent on a low income exactly, which is why its frustrating that we are always counting down to payday.

I have DS11 and DD8 from my previous relationship, he has two girls aged 13 and 10 from his previous relationship and we have a DS who is 2 and a DD who is 8 months. The older two live with me full time. His girls have only recently come to live with us full time because their mum moved away and they wanted to stay with their dad. Their mum isnt paying maintenance at the moment. I dont blame the girls for any of this and they are lovely, its just obviously a lot more expensive having two extra children here all the time.

We rent a 3 bed house and its quite full now but moving isnt an option at the moment. Rent is £850, council tax is about £180, then all the usual bills, phones, petrol, car insurance etc. He pays the rent and most of the bigger bills from his account and I tend to pay for the food shop, things the kids need and bits for the house. It sort of ended up that way rather than us sitting down and deciding it was fair.

The thing is he keeps saying I need to cut down on the food shop. Last night I spent £235 and he was genuinely shocked when he saw it, asking how on earth I had spent that much and saying I need to look at my spending. I know £235 sounds a lot but its for 8 people and I got nappies, washing stuff, toilet roll, packed lunch things, milk, fruit, meat etc. I wasnt buying loads of treats or anything particularly expensive. We were running low on quite a few things so it wasnt even just food.

I did get annoyed because he has been ordering more Airfix stuff recently. He builds the models and paints them and its his hobby, which I do understand, everyone needs something they enjoy. But he will order a kit for £35 then paints another time and tools and bits for another £20 or £30 and he doesnt seem to see it as much because its not all in one go. He says its his hobby and he doesnt go out drinking or spend money on nights out. Fair enough but I dont have money to just buy things for myself whenever I want. If I need clothes or something I usually leave it until the next month.

He says thats different because the food shop is something I can control and I need to plan better. He reckons I buy too much and we dont need half the things I get. I said if he wants to do the food shop and feed all of us for less then he can have a go because its easy to criticise when you arent the one trying to make meals out of whats left in the fridge. That probably didnt help the conversation.

He then said since his girls moved in everything costs more and I seem to have a problem with it. I honestly dont. They are his children and of course they should be able to live with their dad if thats what they want. But we didnt really sit down and work out how much more it would cost or change how we pay for things. We just carried on as before and now we are struggling even more.

He has debt repayments as well, credit cards and a loan from before, which come to around £500 a month. He says those are fixed payments and have to be paid so theres not much he can do about them. I agree they need paying but it means a lot of his wages are already spoken for before we have even bought food or put petrol in the car. His overtime isnt guaranteed either so some months he gets less than £3200.

I dont know if we are just spending too much or if this is what it costs to run a house with this many kids now. We dont have expensive holidays or go out much. The kids have clubs and school things to pay for, they grow out of clothes and shoes, the little ones need nappies and all that. Then theres always something else, a birthday or a school trip or something needs replacing.

We dont have a joint account and neither of us has a proper idea of what the other has left after bills. He thinks he pays most of the money out because the rent and bills come out of his account, and I feel like Im constantly spending mine on everyone and everything and never have anything left. We have never actually added everything up together which I know sounds stupid.

I dont want this to turn into me saying he shouldnt buy his hobby stuff or that his girls cost too much, because thats not what I mean. I just dont see how we can both be working and bringing that much in and still be skint all the time. Is £235 actually ridiculous for a weekly shop for this many people or do I need to look properly at what Im spending? And how do other people split everything when there are children from previous relationships as well?

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Spirallingdownwards · 16/10/2026 12:54

Assuming your DH used to pay his ex CMS for his 2 girls he can now give you that same amount to top up grocery spending. Otherwise he has that additional amount for his hobby spending or should at least be putting that amount towards clearing his debt on top of what he was paying already!

sherbetlemonade · 16/10/2026 12:54

Sherararara · 16/10/2026 12:33

That’s hardly their issue is it? Fundamentally they don’t earn enough or have a handle on their finances.

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It is definitely part of the issue. The OP is doing her best to feed 8 people on limited resources, and he's telling her she's spending too much whilst at the same time he's buying things they can't afford.

He needs to learn that the food shop is one area they can't cut back on.

Parker231 · 16/10/2026 12:55

MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 11:52

I did ask him what I could have not bought and he said the big pack of nappies because we had over half a pack left but we still need them and its best to have more than not enough.

His debt is mostly credit cards, he just sticks things on them and then pays them off a bit at a time but then more goes on and it mounts up again.

His girls mum doesnt work no, so I dont know how much she would be able to pay anyway.

And yes the house is full, we know that, but the girls wanted to stay with their dad and we werent going to say no to them.

Why doesn’t he do the meal planning and shopping so he’s aware of the cost?

SplishSplash123 · 16/10/2026 12:55

There is something unreasonable going on here.

Surely DP was paying maintenance for the girls before, why is that not covering a chunk of their costs now?

You both need to sit down and work out a monthly budget properly, and then track spending for 3 months.

You have a very good combined income and your rent is a lot lower than most people are paying for rent/mortgage. We don't have 6 kids, but after our mortgage is paid we are about the same as you ar3 after rent and we are able to run 2 cars/put a lot into pensions/save etc.

Do you buy stuff for the kids on Vinted etc and save money that way? Avoid going OTT for birthdays etc?

You say DPs income varies with overtime, could any extra he gets each month go to paying the debt down faster as that will have a huge difference the sooner that is clear

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 12:56

Bjorkdidit · 16/10/2026 12:50

Can people stop sniping at the OP for having 6 DC? They are all here now so the OP and her DP need to work together to make the best of their situation.

Yes but the fact of 6 children is relevant to things like airfix vs dds moving in. He needs to pay for the latter before the former.

It just feels like a certain lack of responsibility, as if he hasn't made the connection about where the children keep coming from.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 16/10/2026 12:56

pinkdelight · 16/10/2026 12:53

It's the main reason they're skint. And this - it's done now so don't mention it - stance encapsulates the lack of responsible thinking that got them into this situation. The DH's two daughters were already here before she had the last two, but that didn't seem to be factored into budgeting or living arrangements.

But the thread is about her current situation, not their life history.

Floppyearedlab · 16/10/2026 12:57

Your wage seems low. Are you full time? If not why not

idontknowhowtodreamyourdreams · 16/10/2026 12:58

You could possibly reduce your weekly shop a bit, but not by huge amounts if you are rolling in cleaning products, nappies, toiletries etc.

Get your partner to do the shop a couple of times so he understands how much things actually cost!

The issue - his debt, plus 6 kids. Kids are expensive. If he wasn’t paying off that debt you would feel more comfortable.

idontknowhowtodreamyourdreams · 16/10/2026 13:00

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 12:56

Yes but the fact of 6 children is relevant to things like airfix vs dds moving in. He needs to pay for the latter before the former.

It just feels like a certain lack of responsibility, as if he hasn't made the connection about where the children keep coming from.

Agreed, but it’s not possible to answer the question “why are we skint” without reference to 6 kids. Because that is why (plus the debt of course) and op needs to make her peace with her decisions and either make savings where she can or increase her hours if possible

CharlieEffie · 16/10/2026 13:02

He's complaining about the cost of food bills and than has a go because apparently you are complaining about the cost since the girls moved in? How does that make sense. Why isn't their mum paying maintenance. That needs to change

pinkdelight · 16/10/2026 13:03

ToKittyornottoKitty · 16/10/2026 12:56

But the thread is about her current situation, not their life history.

The kids are current, not history. One is only 8 months old and this situation hasn't developed overnight. They've recently chosen to expand their family in a house that was already too small and she says: I don't understand where its all going. The answer's obvious from the first lines of the OP yet she's oddly unaware. But sure, act like it's some misfortune that they have no agency in.

Livinglavidaloco · 16/10/2026 13:03

Most people wait until their eldest is preschool/school age these days as they cannot afford two so close in age. Let alone another 4 children on top. I wouldn't say your income is huge and the next 15-20 years are going to be very expensive for you both compared to most families. I think you need a serious conversation about this. Soon you will need to decide whether four girls share a room or if teens of opposite sex will be forced to share. You really shouldn't be spending any money on hobbies with the life choices you have made, you can't afford to.

DinoDoughnut81 · 16/10/2026 13:04

Your husband needs to sort his debt out first. No room for debts with 6 children. No spending on airfix until it's cleared. You will be so much better off. It's not the food shopping.
Sit down and do a proper budget, look at the Martin Lewis money saving expert site and see if you can do 0% balance transfers on the cards so you can pay them off. Paying these debts off must be your first priority. Make him understand this.

FunPartyIdeas · 16/10/2026 13:05

@MoonlitMabel
Also, have you sorted reliable contraception? Vaesectomy probably the best option (certainly the most reliable).

friedaklein · 16/10/2026 13:05

I am always unsure about.the right thing to say. On MN, saying 6 kids is too many for nearly everyone but the super rich, is considered cruel and bitchy. Then the cry goes up " What do you want, for her to send them back?

But the issue is the 6 kids! Two added very recently.

TheSandgroper · 16/10/2026 13:06

So many people are latching onto the children.

@MoonlitMabel it’s the debt. He needs to sort out the debt, allow you to sort out the debt although you have six children already and why should you have another one and HE needs to control HIS spending.

If you don’t sort out the debt, you are going to end up in a world of pain. Financially, you need to be working together. But, he has no interest in being a partner. You seem to be his bangmaid and you are paying for the privilege.

TallulahBetty · 16/10/2026 13:06

Stop having kids you can't afford - 2+ kids is a luxury

Stop working PT - that is a luxury

Stop the credit cards - he spends within his means, or not at all

Stop using family funds for his debt - he needs to pay it, not you

ToKittyornottoKitty · 16/10/2026 13:07

pinkdelight · 16/10/2026 13:03

The kids are current, not history. One is only 8 months old and this situation hasn't developed overnight. They've recently chosen to expand their family in a house that was already too small and she says: I don't understand where its all going. The answer's obvious from the first lines of the OP yet she's oddly unaware. But sure, act like it's some misfortune that they have no agency in.

Yeah but repeatedly snipping at her for it rather than making practical suggestions is just a bit shitty really. You’ve made your point a couple of times already now so you don’t really need to keep going making the same point.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 16/10/2026 13:08

friedaklein · 16/10/2026 13:05

I am always unsure about.the right thing to say. On MN, saying 6 kids is too many for nearly everyone but the super rich, is considered cruel and bitchy. Then the cry goes up " What do you want, for her to send them back?

But the issue is the 6 kids! Two added very recently.

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Why is her husbands debt and hobby spending not part of the issue?

CuteOrangeElephant · 16/10/2026 13:10

It's the lack of communication and lack of a proper budget.

We recently realised that we were not doing financially very well, but lacked insight. I use the Actual Budget software now, but you can use that spreadsheet from Money Supermarket. Knowledge is power, you need to know where every single penny goes and cut back accordingly. That means some long and difficult conversations with your partner about integrating your finances. Also any money he spends on himself you need the equivalent of! And no more credit cards, total transparency.

We have individual accounts where we get an amount each for personal spends, I have no idea what DH spends his money on and vice versa, we treat it as a monthly bill.

friedaklein · 16/10/2026 13:11

ToKittyornottoKitty · 16/10/2026 13:08

Why is her husbands debt and hobby spending not part of the issue?

The debt would have been manageable without adding the last 2 kids.
Hobby: hard to figure out if it's £ 30 a month or £30 every week. Either way, a hobby costs less than a kid.

Gingefringe · 16/10/2026 13:13

WatchOutForThatTreeAaaaarggh · 16/10/2026 12:19

Came on to say this. Depending on where you are in the country, it could be closer to £1100pm. You should definitely apply.

Why should the welfare state pick up the tab for her partner's debts and hobbies, and their decision to have 6 kids?

Do you know how much is on his credit card - if he's not making inroads into reducing the capital a large portion of the £500 per month will be covering interest.

redhotsummer · 16/10/2026 13:14

You couldn’t afford 6 kids which is an absolute luxury. That’s where your money is going.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 16/10/2026 13:14

friedaklein · 16/10/2026 13:11

The debt would have been manageable without adding the last 2 kids.
Hobby: hard to figure out if it's £ 30 a month or £30 every week. Either way, a hobby costs less than a kid.

So he should carry on with his debt and hobby and send 2 kids back? Bizarre to suggest that in the current situation his debt and hobby costs aren’t an issue.

friedaklein · 16/10/2026 13:15

I wouldn't say £235 is too much for 8 but two of those are very little, so I think you can get it down. Eat less meat, more veg and lentils.

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