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We earn nearly 5K a month but we’re always skint

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MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 11:04

Me and my partner have been together 6 years and we have 6 kids between us. We both work and on paper we should be doing ok but honestly we seem to have no money left most months and I dont understand where its all going.

I earn about £1450 a month after tax and he usually brings home around £3200 but it depends on overtime. We get child benefit as well and I get a bit of maintenance for my older two but its not a massive amount. So I know we arent on a low income exactly, which is why its frustrating that we are always counting down to payday.

I have DS11 and DD8 from my previous relationship, he has two girls aged 13 and 10 from his previous relationship and we have a DS who is 2 and a DD who is 8 months. The older two live with me full time. His girls have only recently come to live with us full time because their mum moved away and they wanted to stay with their dad. Their mum isnt paying maintenance at the moment. I dont blame the girls for any of this and they are lovely, its just obviously a lot more expensive having two extra children here all the time.

We rent a 3 bed house and its quite full now but moving isnt an option at the moment. Rent is £850, council tax is about £180, then all the usual bills, phones, petrol, car insurance etc. He pays the rent and most of the bigger bills from his account and I tend to pay for the food shop, things the kids need and bits for the house. It sort of ended up that way rather than us sitting down and deciding it was fair.

The thing is he keeps saying I need to cut down on the food shop. Last night I spent £235 and he was genuinely shocked when he saw it, asking how on earth I had spent that much and saying I need to look at my spending. I know £235 sounds a lot but its for 8 people and I got nappies, washing stuff, toilet roll, packed lunch things, milk, fruit, meat etc. I wasnt buying loads of treats or anything particularly expensive. We were running low on quite a few things so it wasnt even just food.

I did get annoyed because he has been ordering more Airfix stuff recently. He builds the models and paints them and its his hobby, which I do understand, everyone needs something they enjoy. But he will order a kit for £35 then paints another time and tools and bits for another £20 or £30 and he doesnt seem to see it as much because its not all in one go. He says its his hobby and he doesnt go out drinking or spend money on nights out. Fair enough but I dont have money to just buy things for myself whenever I want. If I need clothes or something I usually leave it until the next month.

He says thats different because the food shop is something I can control and I need to plan better. He reckons I buy too much and we dont need half the things I get. I said if he wants to do the food shop and feed all of us for less then he can have a go because its easy to criticise when you arent the one trying to make meals out of whats left in the fridge. That probably didnt help the conversation.

He then said since his girls moved in everything costs more and I seem to have a problem with it. I honestly dont. They are his children and of course they should be able to live with their dad if thats what they want. But we didnt really sit down and work out how much more it would cost or change how we pay for things. We just carried on as before and now we are struggling even more.

He has debt repayments as well, credit cards and a loan from before, which come to around £500 a month. He says those are fixed payments and have to be paid so theres not much he can do about them. I agree they need paying but it means a lot of his wages are already spoken for before we have even bought food or put petrol in the car. His overtime isnt guaranteed either so some months he gets less than £3200.

I dont know if we are just spending too much or if this is what it costs to run a house with this many kids now. We dont have expensive holidays or go out much. The kids have clubs and school things to pay for, they grow out of clothes and shoes, the little ones need nappies and all that. Then theres always something else, a birthday or a school trip or something needs replacing.

We dont have a joint account and neither of us has a proper idea of what the other has left after bills. He thinks he pays most of the money out because the rent and bills come out of his account, and I feel like Im constantly spending mine on everyone and everything and never have anything left. We have never actually added everything up together which I know sounds stupid.

I dont want this to turn into me saying he shouldnt buy his hobby stuff or that his girls cost too much, because thats not what I mean. I just dont see how we can both be working and bringing that much in and still be skint all the time. Is £235 actually ridiculous for a weekly shop for this many people or do I need to look properly at what Im spending? And how do other people split everything when there are children from previous relationships as well?

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flumpkeu · 16/10/2026 19:30

Having a second family is expensive. People are struggling enough with just one. We earn vastly more than you and wouldn’t dream of having more than 2 children, never mind new children with new partners. Not really sure what you’re expecting from this thread, are you rage baiting? Worked with me I guess 🤣

Nottodaybob · 16/10/2026 19:30

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 19:05

They can be replaced with an extra sandwich, which have calories as well as nutrients. Empty calories are never a great diet at any age.

Lots of families I know don't buy crisps or biscuits as a weekly thing, and half the point is for the OP to demonstrate to her DH she has made cuts. They are not going to solve this with grocery cuts, but she can demonstrate she has done what she can and the onus is then on him.

So she doesn't buy crisps and biscuits but instead buys 2 extra loaves of bread and extra cheese?

That won't save money or show her husband she's cutting back.

Jackrussellmansion · 16/10/2026 19:34

You will qualify for UC with 6 children in your household and with that income.

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 19:38

Nottodaybob · 16/10/2026 19:30

So she doesn't buy crisps and biscuits but instead buys 2 extra loaves of bread and extra cheese?

That won't save money or show her husband she's cutting back.

You seem very wedded to defending the purchase of crisps and biscuits @Nottodaybob !

Unless they are very cheap, plain biscuits, they will likely cost more per calorie than plain bread.

But as I say, the point is to simplify the shopping list so the DH can see there aren't needless extras.

Have a look at British Nutrition org re giving children a diet high in crisps and biscuits. It isn't great. Very salty foods, in particular, stress childrens' developing kidneys.

BandyUrnham · 16/10/2026 19:39

@Nottodaybob , crisps and biscuits are not filling. They are empty calories. and they're expensive.
Fruit isn't filling but contains fibre, energy, vitamins and minerals.

AnneShirleyBlythe · 16/10/2026 19:39

MyFairLady27 · 16/10/2026 16:54

The answer is not 6 kids the answer is your overspending. We have 9kids between us and 1 step, 4 pets and my weekly shop doesn't come near yours so your overspending somewhere ours includes nappies etc also. Between hubby and child benefit we usually have £1855 a month for all of us. No debts, 3 bed house,all bills up to date and mostly in credit. Cars paid for and holidays each year and also no financial help. If your very careful and write it all down etc, make a lot of meals at home,snacks etc it saves a load to

How are you managing to keep 12? people & 4 pets on less than £2k pm?? Do you have housing costs? What size of house do you have?

Bordercontrol · 16/10/2026 19:44

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Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 19:47

BandyUrnham · 16/10/2026 19:39

@Nottodaybob , crisps and biscuits are not filling. They are empty calories. and they're expensive.
Fruit isn't filling but contains fibre, energy, vitamins and minerals.

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And any sizeable calorie shortfall should not be being met by crisps.

Noodlehen · 16/10/2026 19:48

£5k a month for 8 people is no money at all, I’m surprised you’re surviving at all. The children seem to be eating balanced meals too, so well done. I think most would find it hard!

i think a joint account is the answer tbh, and get him to do a shop and see how he manages!

Nottodaybob · 16/10/2026 19:49

BandyUrnham · 16/10/2026 19:39

@Nottodaybob , crisps and biscuits are not filling. They are empty calories. and they're expensive.
Fruit isn't filling but contains fibre, energy, vitamins and minerals.

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But when you are on a very tight budget, the cheapest food is the one the kids will eat!

We don't have this problem, so we eat a totally upf free diet 90% of the time but for the OP, giving her kids extra fruit and veg, which they they may not eat is not an effectiveness use of money.

I'm not suggested a diet high in crisps and biscuits is a good diet, but it is cheap and kids will eat it. And there is very little nutritional differences between a slice of cheap white bread and a custard cream!

MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 19:51

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If you read the thread you’d see ive already answered this. The 3 girls share the biggest room with a bunk bed and a single bed, DS11 has his own room technically but DS2 has a bed in there too although he ends up in with us most nights anyway. Baby is still in with us as well.

I know its not ideal and its crowded, ive already said that. We’re making it work for now.

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LeftBoobGoneRogue · 16/10/2026 19:53

Bjorkdidit · 16/10/2026 14:52

Why do people have such a problem with people using fabric conditioner? It costs about £20 a year at most, so isn't going to be a noticeable saving in anyone's budget.

Because it spoils your clothes and clogs up washing machines. It makes towels less absorbent too.

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 16/10/2026 19:54

LeftBoobGoneRogue · 16/10/2026 19:53

Because it spoils your clothes and clogs up washing machines. It makes towels less absorbent too.

Agree. It’s so vile!

Bordercontrol · 16/10/2026 19:54

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ExtraHotDoubleShot · 16/10/2026 19:54

Jackrussellmansion · 16/10/2026 19:34

You will qualify for UC with 6 children in your household and with that income.

Oh God don’t

Lordofmyflies · 16/10/2026 19:55

It doesn’t surprise me Op. We are a family of 4, cook 7 meals a week, plus lunches and breakfasts and spend £170 a week just on food shopping. Shopping isn’t the problem - it’s the number of people in your household. Add in the clothes, activities and clubs for your DC, I’m not surprised you’re struggling. Life is very expensive now, hence us stopping at 2 dc because that’s what we thought we could afford comfortably. I would combine income in a joint account and try and increase work hours or promotion between you.

Bordercontrol · 16/10/2026 19:57

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CissOff · 16/10/2026 19:57

I’m not surprised, I would struggle on 5k with 8 people to feed and house.

I don’t think your shopping is even slightly unreasonable OP. I easily spend £200 a week for 3 adults and 1 DC.

If you’re on a tight budget then he can’t have air fix models. Simple as. My DS is in to Warhammer and the costs soon mount up with all the paints and extras.

Jackrussellmansion · 16/10/2026 20:02

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 16/10/2026 19:54

Oh God don’t

Why not? OP might not realise, but they will definitely qualify. Would you have had the same reaction if it was Tax Credits?

Whatisbest26 · 16/10/2026 20:04

I feel your pain. I have 4 children and am a single income household earning £3800 per month. Before anyone starts, I was married for 15 years so never the intention to be a single parent. Everything is just so expensive, food, utilities and obviously all the kid costs. I don’t know what the answer is for you. Be better once the debt has gone

flumpkeu · 16/10/2026 20:07

MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 19:51

If you read the thread you’d see ive already answered this. The 3 girls share the biggest room with a bunk bed and a single bed, DS11 has his own room technically but DS2 has a bed in there too although he ends up in with us most nights anyway. Baby is still in with us as well.

I know its not ideal and its crowded, ive already said that. We’re making it work for now.

Why oh why would you have additional children in a new relationship with this situation? Did you consider the children AT ALL?

Therealjudgejudy · 16/10/2026 20:14

Would you not be entitled to UC op?

thismummydrinksgin · 16/10/2026 20:18

I spend close to that on 4 people.

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 20:20

MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 19:51

If you read the thread you’d see ive already answered this. The 3 girls share the biggest room with a bunk bed and a single bed, DS11 has his own room technically but DS2 has a bed in there too although he ends up in with us most nights anyway. Baby is still in with us as well.

I know its not ideal and its crowded, ive already said that. We’re making it work for now.

It's fine OP.

Autumnalhibernationisthedream · 16/10/2026 20:20

Men blame the food shop for everything 😅😅😅

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