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We earn nearly 5K a month but we’re always skint

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MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 11:04

Me and my partner have been together 6 years and we have 6 kids between us. We both work and on paper we should be doing ok but honestly we seem to have no money left most months and I dont understand where its all going.

I earn about £1450 a month after tax and he usually brings home around £3200 but it depends on overtime. We get child benefit as well and I get a bit of maintenance for my older two but its not a massive amount. So I know we arent on a low income exactly, which is why its frustrating that we are always counting down to payday.

I have DS11 and DD8 from my previous relationship, he has two girls aged 13 and 10 from his previous relationship and we have a DS who is 2 and a DD who is 8 months. The older two live with me full time. His girls have only recently come to live with us full time because their mum moved away and they wanted to stay with their dad. Their mum isnt paying maintenance at the moment. I dont blame the girls for any of this and they are lovely, its just obviously a lot more expensive having two extra children here all the time.

We rent a 3 bed house and its quite full now but moving isnt an option at the moment. Rent is £850, council tax is about £180, then all the usual bills, phones, petrol, car insurance etc. He pays the rent and most of the bigger bills from his account and I tend to pay for the food shop, things the kids need and bits for the house. It sort of ended up that way rather than us sitting down and deciding it was fair.

The thing is he keeps saying I need to cut down on the food shop. Last night I spent £235 and he was genuinely shocked when he saw it, asking how on earth I had spent that much and saying I need to look at my spending. I know £235 sounds a lot but its for 8 people and I got nappies, washing stuff, toilet roll, packed lunch things, milk, fruit, meat etc. I wasnt buying loads of treats or anything particularly expensive. We were running low on quite a few things so it wasnt even just food.

I did get annoyed because he has been ordering more Airfix stuff recently. He builds the models and paints them and its his hobby, which I do understand, everyone needs something they enjoy. But he will order a kit for £35 then paints another time and tools and bits for another £20 or £30 and he doesnt seem to see it as much because its not all in one go. He says its his hobby and he doesnt go out drinking or spend money on nights out. Fair enough but I dont have money to just buy things for myself whenever I want. If I need clothes or something I usually leave it until the next month.

He says thats different because the food shop is something I can control and I need to plan better. He reckons I buy too much and we dont need half the things I get. I said if he wants to do the food shop and feed all of us for less then he can have a go because its easy to criticise when you arent the one trying to make meals out of whats left in the fridge. That probably didnt help the conversation.

He then said since his girls moved in everything costs more and I seem to have a problem with it. I honestly dont. They are his children and of course they should be able to live with their dad if thats what they want. But we didnt really sit down and work out how much more it would cost or change how we pay for things. We just carried on as before and now we are struggling even more.

He has debt repayments as well, credit cards and a loan from before, which come to around £500 a month. He says those are fixed payments and have to be paid so theres not much he can do about them. I agree they need paying but it means a lot of his wages are already spoken for before we have even bought food or put petrol in the car. His overtime isnt guaranteed either so some months he gets less than £3200.

I dont know if we are just spending too much or if this is what it costs to run a house with this many kids now. We dont have expensive holidays or go out much. The kids have clubs and school things to pay for, they grow out of clothes and shoes, the little ones need nappies and all that. Then theres always something else, a birthday or a school trip or something needs replacing.

We dont have a joint account and neither of us has a proper idea of what the other has left after bills. He thinks he pays most of the money out because the rent and bills come out of his account, and I feel like Im constantly spending mine on everyone and everything and never have anything left. We have never actually added everything up together which I know sounds stupid.

I dont want this to turn into me saying he shouldnt buy his hobby stuff or that his girls cost too much, because thats not what I mean. I just dont see how we can both be working and bringing that much in and still be skint all the time. Is £235 actually ridiculous for a weekly shop for this many people or do I need to look properly at what Im spending? And how do other people split everything when there are children from previous relationships as well?

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SwirlingAroundSleep · 16/10/2026 18:07

MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 11:04

Me and my partner have been together 6 years and we have 6 kids between us. We both work and on paper we should be doing ok but honestly we seem to have no money left most months and I dont understand where its all going.

I earn about £1450 a month after tax and he usually brings home around £3200 but it depends on overtime. We get child benefit as well and I get a bit of maintenance for my older two but its not a massive amount. So I know we arent on a low income exactly, which is why its frustrating that we are always counting down to payday.

I have DS11 and DD8 from my previous relationship, he has two girls aged 13 and 10 from his previous relationship and we have a DS who is 2 and a DD who is 8 months. The older two live with me full time. His girls have only recently come to live with us full time because their mum moved away and they wanted to stay with their dad. Their mum isnt paying maintenance at the moment. I dont blame the girls for any of this and they are lovely, its just obviously a lot more expensive having two extra children here all the time.

We rent a 3 bed house and its quite full now but moving isnt an option at the moment. Rent is £850, council tax is about £180, then all the usual bills, phones, petrol, car insurance etc. He pays the rent and most of the bigger bills from his account and I tend to pay for the food shop, things the kids need and bits for the house. It sort of ended up that way rather than us sitting down and deciding it was fair.

The thing is he keeps saying I need to cut down on the food shop. Last night I spent £235 and he was genuinely shocked when he saw it, asking how on earth I had spent that much and saying I need to look at my spending. I know £235 sounds a lot but its for 8 people and I got nappies, washing stuff, toilet roll, packed lunch things, milk, fruit, meat etc. I wasnt buying loads of treats or anything particularly expensive. We were running low on quite a few things so it wasnt even just food.

I did get annoyed because he has been ordering more Airfix stuff recently. He builds the models and paints them and its his hobby, which I do understand, everyone needs something they enjoy. But he will order a kit for £35 then paints another time and tools and bits for another £20 or £30 and he doesnt seem to see it as much because its not all in one go. He says its his hobby and he doesnt go out drinking or spend money on nights out. Fair enough but I dont have money to just buy things for myself whenever I want. If I need clothes or something I usually leave it until the next month.

He says thats different because the food shop is something I can control and I need to plan better. He reckons I buy too much and we dont need half the things I get. I said if he wants to do the food shop and feed all of us for less then he can have a go because its easy to criticise when you arent the one trying to make meals out of whats left in the fridge. That probably didnt help the conversation.

He then said since his girls moved in everything costs more and I seem to have a problem with it. I honestly dont. They are his children and of course they should be able to live with their dad if thats what they want. But we didnt really sit down and work out how much more it would cost or change how we pay for things. We just carried on as before and now we are struggling even more.

He has debt repayments as well, credit cards and a loan from before, which come to around £500 a month. He says those are fixed payments and have to be paid so theres not much he can do about them. I agree they need paying but it means a lot of his wages are already spoken for before we have even bought food or put petrol in the car. His overtime isnt guaranteed either so some months he gets less than £3200.

I dont know if we are just spending too much or if this is what it costs to run a house with this many kids now. We dont have expensive holidays or go out much. The kids have clubs and school things to pay for, they grow out of clothes and shoes, the little ones need nappies and all that. Then theres always something else, a birthday or a school trip or something needs replacing.

We dont have a joint account and neither of us has a proper idea of what the other has left after bills. He thinks he pays most of the money out because the rent and bills come out of his account, and I feel like Im constantly spending mine on everyone and everything and never have anything left. We have never actually added everything up together which I know sounds stupid.

I dont want this to turn into me saying he shouldnt buy his hobby stuff or that his girls cost too much, because thats not what I mean. I just dont see how we can both be working and bringing that much in and still be skint all the time. Is £235 actually ridiculous for a weekly shop for this many people or do I need to look properly at what Im spending? And how do other people split everything when there are children from previous relationships as well?

FYI I genuinely think you can apply for universal credit and receive something. You would be eligible for rent for at least the 4 bed rate with 6 kids (so could move somewhere more suitable) and potentially get childcare costs partially reimbursed. I’m not into benefits bashing and believe that with 8 people in a house having just over £500 per person isn’t enough and you should be supported if you’re eligible. Putting your circumstances into chatgtp estimates you could be eligible for up to 1k in benefits.

AllIwantForChrismasIsAKitchenAidStandMixer · 16/10/2026 18:09

SwirlingAroundSleep · 16/10/2026 17:58

Also, check if you are actually eligible for universal credit. If you have childcare costs you might be even if you think your not and you would probably also be eligible for rent on a bigger property.

There was a Reddit poster the other day bragging about how he has gamed the system by choosing to go for a SO property and therefore still pay rent on his £80k salary and 4 kids was pulling in something like £800 a month in UC on top of child benefit

AllIwantForChrismasIsAKitchenAidStandMixer · 16/10/2026 18:13

TheOwlShootAtNight · 16/10/2026 18:06

2 adults, 9 kids and 4 pets in 3 bed house…that’s grim.

I was going to say the same - what in the overcrowding? Where do they all sleep? Absolutely zero personal space.

oldFoolMe · 16/10/2026 18:16

Put in a claim for UC. With that many kids and nursery costs you would probably get some

Wildgoat · 16/10/2026 18:20

You need to stop saying you didn’t struggle before the girls moved In. It is clearly not their fault.

but you don’t have five grand a month, 500 is immediately debt repayments, when you strip out your other costs, you don’t have much left, and you need to feed 8 people on it, this is the issue, it’s a tight budget for so many people,

kkloo · 16/10/2026 18:24

I said if he wants to do the food shop and feed all of us for less then he can have a go because its easy to criticise when you arent the one trying to make meals out of whats left in the fridge. That probably didnt help the conversation.

Why didn't that help the situation? It's the obvious solution so he can understand how difficult it is and how expensive everything is, seeing as he won't listen to you.

If he reacted poorly to it then it's his reaction that is the problem, not the suggestion that you brought up.

Backswiftly · 16/10/2026 18:26

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ByGreenDeer · 16/10/2026 18:37

The bitterness toward big families is rife on here.

I have more than 6, I wont say how much as its none of anyone's business, and we manage, even though we don't bring in 6 figures a year, although we are not far off hitting 100k.

If you wanted a big family and didn't get one, that's not our problem, dont take your jealousy out on those of us that did.

I'm sure you lot with one or two kids make financial errors too.
Not all money problems are caused by having more than two kids.

Let's not blame the rich for doing their utmost to keep the poor as poor as possible and themselves richer, let's blame Sheila down the road for popping out a 4th child.

Give me strength 🙄

Wildgoat · 16/10/2026 18:42

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Did you even bother to read it, they had two each, and then had another two together, so each of them has four kids,

FunPartyIdeas · 16/10/2026 18:43

@Wildgoat 2 + 2 + 2 = 6

shuggles · 16/10/2026 18:45

@LilyBunch25 They're not actually strange or unusual, contract hire is how many people run a car these days. Admittedly many for higher end models than they possibly need but strange and unusual, no, its not.

I'm not sure what you mean by "run a car." Do you mean "pay for a car"?

Normal people buy small and affordable second hand cars. The weird "PCP" things are a bit silly as it causes people to pay a monthly fee for a car they don't own. That's the fastest way to kill wealth.

If OP has a "PCP" thing, it would be in her interests to get rid of it, as it would be a massive boost to her finances.

Wildgoat · 16/10/2026 18:45

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 16/10/2026 17:47

I'm not surprised that you are skint since you are indirectly paying his costs to service his debt. He is spending his money on Airfix kits instead of paying off his debt and his excuse is "I could be going out getting drunk instead"? Well he shouldn't be wasting his money on anything he can't afford. And he expects you to cut food bill instead and accuses you of not liking his children? That's a distraction. It's him hitting back because he wants to do whatever he likes. His household costs haven't increase when his children moved in. Yours have, because you pay for all the food and groceries, he doesn't.

Do not have a joint account with this man. He will spend it on shite of his own and then blame you when the account is empty before the end of the month.

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Wow,

MrHankyTheChristmasPoo2 · 16/10/2026 18:46

ByGreenDeer · 16/10/2026 18:37

The bitterness toward big families is rife on here.

I have more than 6, I wont say how much as its none of anyone's business, and we manage, even though we don't bring in 6 figures a year, although we are not far off hitting 100k.

If you wanted a big family and didn't get one, that's not our problem, dont take your jealousy out on those of us that did.

I'm sure you lot with one or two kids make financial errors too.
Not all money problems are caused by having more than two kids.

Let's not blame the rich for doing their utmost to keep the poor as poor as possible and themselves richer, let's blame Sheila down the road for popping out a 4th child.

Give me strength 🙄

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Do you complain about how you can’t afford your 7+ kids though? Did you think about whether you had enough money/enough room before you kept making the decision to have another one?

That’s the difference.

It’s not big families per se, it’s big families funded by the taxpayer and/or parents complaining they don’t have enough money to feed everyone, like the op.

EdithBond · 16/10/2026 18:46

You need to plan for the future, as your housing, income and outgoings look unsustainable.

In 5 years time, you’ll have DSs of 16 and 7 and DDs of 18, 15, 13 and 5. Where on earth will they all sleep? Teenagers need their own space. And eat like horses. Suggest a house with an eat-in kitchen and you turn the living room into a bedroom.

Suggest you seek budgeting advice from somewhere like StepChange, Turn2Us or Money Advice Trust. Plus Monzo accounts which help you budget. This YouTube account is good (The Whole Home): https://youtube.com/@thewholehome?si=aIkA-Wba3rtshzEB.

Your DP needs to cut up his credit cards, get debt advice to reduce the debt repayments and you both need to earn a lot more money/look into UC entitlements. Suggest you start replacing meat with lentils and beans. Big pots of vege curry, vege chilli etc. Grow your own veg. Use a community fridge.

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 16/10/2026 18:47

Shuffletoesxtreme · 16/10/2026 11:10

You've got six kids and one of you is either working part time or in a minimum wage job.

This

What a mess, and now you’ve added another 2 kids to it.

We dont have a joint account and neither of us has a proper idea of what the other has left after bills.

Why don’t you have a joint account? You have joint children for heavens sake.

Mushypeasandchipstogo · 16/10/2026 18:50

Your rent is very, very cheap but as others have said what can you expect with 6 kids ! Have you considered what will happen if they want to go to university?

Radiohat · 16/10/2026 19:01

Im amazed at this , your grocery shop sounds very reasonable.

As everyone one has said you need to take the bull by the horns.Set up a joint account for bills , rent , food etc & both each keep a separate personal accounts for "hobbies" & "Dept payments" &"personal items" both put a % representing what you take home in the bill account, off the top of the head, say you both put 75% of what you earn into the bill account you are then both left with 25% of your own money.

The debt is taking most of the spare cash , is it joint debt ? It might also be time to get the debt payments adjusted with 2 extra mouths to feed.

It looks like your DH has his head in the sand. If you don't sort it out it will get worse. At the moment it is not fair on you or the rest of your family.

If it is husband's debt 'only' - it needs to be made clear to him that you cannot afford to subsidise his debt . If it is both of your debt you have to work out a payment that is workable because what you are doing at present is not working.

I also think that if you are receiving maintenance that should be put aside for things those children need & maintenance from your husbands ex should be part of the equation.

The money that you have coming in is not an enormous amount, it might sound like it is on paper but for a family of 6 children, I would absolutely understand that you must be struggling. 🙄

ClearFruit · 16/10/2026 19:02

Your wages are low, even without kids.
What sector are you in?

AnswerIsNo · 16/10/2026 19:02

AllIwantForChrismasIsAKitchenAidStandMixer · 16/10/2026 18:09

There was a Reddit poster the other day bragging about how he has gamed the system by choosing to go for a SO property and therefore still pay rent on his £80k salary and 4 kids was pulling in something like £800 a month in UC on top of child benefit

£80k salary and getting £800 of UC?

Paying rent does not mean you qualify for means-tested UC just because you rent, as opposed to owning your own home.

UC look at your incomings firstly, the amount of rent you pay becomes pretty irrelevant when you're in the 40% tax band and on a salary of £80k

Even people who are out of work get their rent contribution capped at the Local Housing Allowance rate, which in most places, is less than 50% of your rent.

Moreso when you consider the threshold is £16k with deductions applied until £6k in savings...you'd expect someone on £80k to have a nice chunk of capital that would take them above the threshold

80k salary but manages to shift £800 of UC?

Does not remotely pass the sniff test

That Reddit poster sounds like an anti-benefits crank, shit-posting to get everyone rage-foaming over a tale of see how easy it is to game the system, the government needs to answer

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 19:05

Nottodaybob · 16/10/2026 15:46

Can they? Are they not on the children's lunch boxes? What are they to be replaced with? Children need calories as well as other nutrients. Removing crisps (which are a cheap food stuff) will likely leave the children hungry and a second or third piece of fruit will a) cost the same and b) likely not full them up c) not meet their calorie needs.

An occasional biscuit as a pudding or treat is hardly breaking the bank and most families have some kind of snack or treat a couple of times a week.

They can be replaced with an extra sandwich, which have calories as well as nutrients. Empty calories are never a great diet at any age.

Lots of families I know don't buy crisps or biscuits as a weekly thing, and half the point is for the OP to demonstrate to her DH she has made cuts. They are not going to solve this with grocery cuts, but she can demonstrate she has done what she can and the onus is then on him.

IzzyGone · 16/10/2026 19:09

you both need to sit down and properly go through finances

I'd also do a Asda online shop for the week - you don't have to press spend - but then show him and see if he can understand that you are not wasting money. Feeding 8 people each week and look paper, shampoo toothpaste and nappies.

If you are spending less than £40 per person per week you are doing very well, this included toiletries and bog paper etc

You are doing really well on the grocery shopping imo and I am expert at keeping it low

If he is earning £3200 and you £1400 then you need to sit down and write down every single bill

rent £850
council tax £180
utilities
water
mobile phone
tv
car
mot
insurance

if the total is for example £2200 then he needs to be putting in £1530 and you £670 - that is based on what you earn in comparison to him

then you both need to put into the kitty for the food shopping in a seperate account

hobbies comes out of what he has left over

as he should have £1669 left over and you £730

just to add - he needs to be paying his debt from his own account

sittingonabeach · 16/10/2026 19:09

You had 4 young children between you and then had another 2, and you wonder why you don't have much money. And live in a 3 bed house. Have to ask what you were thinking?

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 16/10/2026 19:17

The clue is the 6 kids. I have two teens and myself i come out with 3400 so in theory you need about 9k a month. £5k nowhere near enough.

Yodeldodeldo · 16/10/2026 19:18

I think he needs to participate in a food shop. Food has gone up a lot and maybe he hasn't actually realised this. Somehow my own DH didn't either because I do the weekly shop. Perhaps the last time OPs partner ventured into Asda you could still get the big pack of mince for 4 quid, etc.

But you have a lot of children, and that is your choice and its own type of richness.

sittingonabeach · 16/10/2026 19:22

How are you going to cope when you have teen appetites and costs. Then costs of uni?

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